Bib, tunica/lig stretch...

Bib, I have several questions, thought it best to address them to you here, since you frequent this board.

I’ve read in the past that you feel your gains were 50/50 from ligament and tunica stretching. I know you stopped hanging for length gains, but if you wanted more, do you feel there is any limit to the length the tunica can be stretched? Given proper rest and recovery time of course…

Also, If I recall, you started with a girth of 5” midshaft, and hung for length for 2 years before doing any girth work. I assume this left you with an 11”x5” penis. How did you wife respond sexually to these dimensions? I assume you had no problem tapping her cds, but were you stretching her at all with your 5” girth? Did these dimensions produce the sexual change you previously reported she underwent? Or did it happen when you started adding the girth?

I believe you stated that after adding the length you then spent 19 months adding the girth. This would give you a total roughly of 43 months work to get to your current size. Do you think that if you would have worked on both girth and length simultaneously over this time frame you would have had the same results, or less? I ask because I’m wondering if I should abandon all girth work until I get my last 1.5” or so, then attack girth with a vengeance. To this point, I’ve always worked for both each day. Based on your knowledge, is this detrimental when going after long term as opposed to initial gains?

RB,

>I know you stopped hanging for length gains, but if you wanted more, do you feel there is any limit to the length the tunica can be stretched? Given proper rest and recovery time of course…<

I am sure there are limits, but not absolute limits. IOW, all things equal, I think it is a situation of diminishing returns. Of course, all things are not equal. The stresses applied are a limiting factor for many guys. But with a good hanger, you can increase the stresses to enjoy gains for a long long time. Then, with the advent of the DLD exercises, the stresses can be raised further. Combining the DLDs and hanging approaches the point of “no gain limits” for many guys.

Now, for hard gainers the curve is lower. They can still gain with increasing stresses, but it is tougher. Also, the benefits of punctuated PEing, taking time off to allow the tissue to regress, might be of value. It will take a lot more time and many more guys to evaluate all the possibilities.

For me, I had attained an erect length of 10.75 inches while in my length maintanence routine. Then, I cut back some more and finally settled at 10.5 cemented. I think I could go much higher, but that would not be good in my situation.

>Also, If I recall, you started with a girth of 5” midshaft, and hung for length for 2 years before doing any girth work. I assume this left you with an 11”x5” penis. How did you wife respond sexually to these dimensions? I assume you had no problem tapping her cds, but were you stretching her at all with your 5” girth? Did these dimensions produce the sexual change you previously reported she underwent? Or did it happen when you started adding the girth?<

To be somewhat clinical, these questions are all about friction. Two things, the amount of surface area contacted (length and girth) for both parties, at a time, and the amount of pressure applied to the surface areas (girth and vaginal tightness) at a time.

As the contact area and pressure increase, the pleasure quotient also increases, up to a point, dependant upon tolerances for each individual. Some people like a lot of pressure, some not so much.

As I grew longer, the amount of surface area contacted increased. Also, I was increasing girth at the base, which really helped with the pressure applied at the mouth of my wife’s vagina. Also, hair stubble really helped in that area.

So the short answer is, the increasing amount of enjoyment began almost immediately, and increased as surface area contacted increased. Later, when I began the concentrated girth work, the pleasure continued to increase. Essentially, my goal was to make the perfect appliance for our physiology. It appears I succeeded.

>Do you think that if you would have worked on both girth and length simultaneously over this time frame you would have had the same results, or less?<

This is a question that will never be answered conclusively. The reason is because there can be no control group. You cannot do it one way, then start over and do it another way for each individual. Since it is very hard to compare routines between individuals, with their differing parameters, a conclusion is very difficult to acquire.

I simply relied on physics and common sense. It is more difficult to stretch a thicker object than a thinner one, all other things being equal. Since the penis is a living thing, able to heal and reproduce healthy living cells, a larger volume of tissue, which includes the tough collagenous tunica, should be harder to stretch lengthwise. Or at least require greater stresses.

Assuming that the tunica does not become thicker with length work, which it should not, then it should not be any harder to stretch the tunica laterally for increased girth, no matter the length.

>I ask because I’m wondering if I should abandon all girth work until I get my last 1.5” or so, then attack girth with a vengeance. To this point, I’ve always worked for both each day. Based on your knowledge, is this detrimental when going after long term as opposed to initial gains?<

That would be up to you and your situation. The best advice is to do something, even if it is wrong. You will still probably make gains.

Bigger

I have a theory on this as well. For me gains are becoming easier as I get larger…I think that growth may be the same but with a larger penis. What I mean is if someone with a 6” penis gained 10% the gain would be .6”…someone like big gaining the same 10% would yield 1.5”.

I also am able to do many exercises I could not do with my penis when it was smaller with may account for the excellerated gains I have seen over the past 6 months.

Also DLD, most likely, because you have a larger penis to work with …you have the ability to apply more leverage in stretching exercises. Youve got more to hold onto/pull on period. Therefor, you can pull with more force and get more resistance. Imagining we had a cart of a given weight in front of us and this cart had a 5” long rope attached to it to pull it by. Most likely, you could only pull with one hand and only for so long. BUT, replace that rope with a 10” long one and you can now use both hands to pull the cart via the rope and, move the cart much more effectively.