Divide and conquer

It seems a lot of guys are confused about hanging directions and how to hang efficiently.

Once again, there is no true single best way to hang. It is completely individual. You must learn to feel what is needed, and the feel the best way to go about it. But here are some general guidelines.

First, you must stretch some skin. Skin is the first limiting factor because of the slide-ability of the skin. The bibhangers have the capacity to grasp internal structures to prevent or reduce the amount of hanger slide, but in general, there will still be some. This means the skin will usually take the brunt of the stress in the beginning. This is ok, because you must stretch some skin in order to accomodate the future internal shaft gains.

Further, it is much easier to only stretch one at a time. First the skin, then the internal shaft. I used to do this on a continual basis by varying the hanger attachment point. More toward the head would stress the internal shaft, more toward the body would increase skin stress. Divide and conquer.

This same principle applies also to the ligs and tunica. There are two different bundles of ligs, the suspensory and the fundiform. The suspensory are what everyone talks about generally. They are below the surface of the skin, running from the pubic bone to attach on the tunica. I think of them like the support cables running from the body of a crane to the boom of the crane.

Anyway, varying angles between straight out, and BTC will stress different connective tissue bundles and even different individual fibers. Even a change of a couple of degrees of the hanging angle will give a different stretch. This is what I mean by divide and conquer. If you try to stretch everything at the same time, using the same angle all the time, the tissues fall into equilibrium. All roughly taking about the same amount of stress. Much better is to make one area take the stress during a set or session, then make another area take the stress in another set or session.

I have always said BTC is the most efficient angle for making gains. It will put the most stress on the susp ligs, which should generally allow for the most gains. However, you cannot target this area alone.

I estimate that I hung between straight out and BTC maybe 80% of my hanging time. Depending on how far down in my chair I scooted, I had maybe five or six different, seperate angles of hang that worked different areas. Divide and conquer. The other 20% was OTS and OTL. This was when I was fatigued hanging at the other angles.

Anyway, if you are doing the same thing, at the same angle, every day, change it up. When you no longer feel the work at a certain angle, you are wasting hanging time. Rather than first going up in weight, first try a different angle. I estimate that for most guys, there are 270 vertical degrees of possible hang. Then there are at least 180 degrees of horizontal hang, giving an almost infinite number of two dimentional angles of hang.

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Is it better to cycle angles in a particular order?

If I hang BTC until I reach fatigue and then hang just slightly away from BTC, I’m still stressing, though not primarily anymore, the fatigued BTC tissues.

If after reaching fatigue from BTC I immediately go to OTS, the fatigued BTC tissues get a complete break because the angle of stress is now from the opposite direction.

Should we work our hanging angles around gradually to keep at least a minor stress on the previously fatigued tissues? Or is it more effective to hang one position until fatigued and then swtich to a completely different position?

hobby,

>Is it better to cycle angles in a particular order?<

Well, I always hung to fatigue on the straight out to BTC angles. Then, sometimes OTS and other times OTL. Really depending on how I felt. As far as the SO to BTC angles, I tried to do BTC first, then pretty much work back up to SO.

>If I hang BTC until I reach fatigue and then hang just slightly away from BTC, I’m still stressing, though not primarily anymore, the fatigued BTC tissues.<

Right, I know what you mean.

>If after reaching fatigue from BTC I immediately go to OTS, the fatigued BTC tissues get a complete break because the angle of stress is now from the opposite direction.<

Exactly.

>Should we work our hanging angles around gradually to keep at least a minor stress on the previously fatigued tissues? Or is it more effective to hang one position until fatigued and then swtich to a completely different position? <

This involves the difference between fatigued and total fatigue. If I was just fatigued, I might go back to BTC after a day or so to see how it felt. If no discomfort, I would stay with it to hang in the fatigued state, even at a much lower weight. If totally fatigued, I would move on to another angle, or rest. Remember, the next step after total fatigue is pain and injury. Don’t push it.

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BIB,

Read with interest ‘Divide and conquer” Fully understand logic of this proposal. I’d like your thoughts on another variation. I believe you’ve suggested “toe out” as the preferred setting of lower adjustment screws which I’ve done since I started with BIB starter at first of March. I read someone’s post that he liked “toe in” but use of full size BIB was required. Well, as peverse as I am, and wondering about how variation might feel , I tried “toe in” with the starter, making sure that position of forward portion of hanger was about one inch behind glans. This seemed to give a different feel, as though more of the penis was getting stretched. It seemed there was no tendency for the hanger to slip too far forward into the glans. Although I’ve never actually tried to determine max hang I’ve recently gone up to 18 # approx when using toe out. Hanging toe in I was also able to accommodate this same weight. I’d like to get your thoughts on using this variation in”toe” as a method of “divide and conquer”, ie, just another variation so your wanger is not always having the same clamping forces applied to the same region of the penis.

Surfer1

BIB.

As a postscript to my post above, after writing the above I tried using the full size BIB with max toe in, forward edge of hanger about one inch behind glans and this configuration allowed me to use full size BIB satisfactorily. When using BIB toe out the hanger would ultimately slide down into the glans , making this configuration undesireable. The benefit of this configuration, of course, is that the pressure required with the BIB to hold 18# was much less than with the Starter and the hang was much more comfortable. My stretched flacid length is about 6 inches max and my BPEL is about 5 1/2inches , so I’m right at that dividing line as to which hanger is required.

Whole point is , by using toe in, I can use larger, more comfortable, hanger, whereas with toe out the hanger slips too far down.

Surfer1

Surfer1,

Please forgive the delay in answering this. I had to think about it, which is an aerobic exercise for me.

>I believe you’ve suggested “toe out” as the preferred setting of lower adjustment screws which I’ve done since I started with BIB starter at first of March.<

At higher weights, toeing-out was MY preference. I have toed in before comfortably. It just depends on the situation and the penis.

>I’d like to get your thoughts on using this variation in”toe” as a method of “divide and conquer”, ie, just another variation so your wanger is not always having the same clamping forces applied to the same region of the penis.<

I believe I see what you mean. Although it might or might not have the connection to gains, the amount of toe does allow for different areas of fatigue at the point of attachment. If you become sore in one area, and do not wish to move the hanger up or down, simply changing the amount of toe might work.

>Whole point is , by using toe in, I can use larger, more comfortable, hanger, whereas with toe out the hanger slips too far down.<

That’s great! But I urge you to remember the toed out settings on the regular hanger for later. As you grow, get stronger, and go up in weight, you will probably reach a time when toed out is again very comfortable.

OK, having said all that, I do know different attachment points, hangers, and settings all give different feels, and different amounts of stress and kinds of stress to the shaft (tunica). I think there could be some merit in changing up these variables to fill a similar roll as changing hanging angles in the process of ‘divide and conquer’. Just not to the same extent, and only concerning the tunica. Just MO.

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