Hanging V surgery, and the benefit's

Hanging V surgery.

Could I open this discussion by asking peoples points of view on lengthening surgery, and the difference between the final results of both methods?.

Woah, as I speak I’m feeling a massive pull on my ligs, fuck, I’m hanging 8.25lbs and I’ve not felt anything like this before, it feels as though my whole lower section is tight, when I squeeze my abs it really feels weird. Anyway back to my question.

After looking into the lengthening surgery, I’ve noticed that the surgeons only promise up to 1 inch of realistic gains from cutting the ligs and pulling them forward, and that it’s mostly flaccid gains that are made after doing this.

What do you think the main advantage with hanging is?

My thoughts would be the stretching rather than cutting and pulling out, with hanging you are creating more length rather than cutting and pulling everything down. But I might be wrong.

17mls - I swear I’m not following you around the net on purpose.. I posted on BiB’s site in response to your thread over there.

I suggest hanging with purpose and discipline over lengthening surgery.

Once upon a time I chose surgery for lack of a known(to me) alternative. The results were questionable. Flaccid gain was evident, but I don’t know that I profited more than 1/2” in an erect state. I was left with scarring to skin and over the years scar tissue might have stolen what little gains achieved through the surgery. Fifteen years have passed and I imagine there have been many improvements and subsequent efficacy, depending upon the surgeon and post-op protocol. In my case my surgeon was first popular and then infamous. Post-op care was focused on control of infection and zero emphasis was placed on any kind of techniques to maximize surgical gain. Things are likely different now and I suggest talking to recent patients if you can find one who is not promoting anything.

I am now working on length via PE. I am convinced it works. It’s a whole lot cheaper, too.

And safer. :)

Hi jblair,

I’m not looking into surgery for the penis, I was just wondering what peoples opinions were regarding the matter.

Thank you for your input.

I don’t even think about surgery, hanging and manual exercises beat any surgery by mile.

Why would anyone even consider surgery after seeing “success” rates is beyond me. You’ve been given only one penis for a lifetime, why would you risk screwing it up because of laziness?

From my experience, there is zero reliable evidence that surgery is beneficial for gaining erect length. The only benefit I can see is that it helps focus tension on the tunica when hanging SD. I don’t think the ligs really come into play when stretching or hanging SO or in an upwards angle. I’ve had the surgery and over the years have made numerous friends from various forums, who have also had the surgery, as we share our experiences. In the last year alone I’ve known 5 people who had the lengthening surgery and gained nothing erect. The only people who I’ve read about gaining as a direct result of surgery are members of MNS. But that site is owned by a guy who arranges surgery for a fee and it has been proven he posts false accounts. There are some posters on this site that I know to be honest and genuine guys who have gained after surgery, but only after many months of hanging or using a stretcher and none had done this pre op. So the chances are they would have gained the same without surgery. If when you pull your penis straight out, or slighlty up, you can feel the ligs really preventing your penis being as long as possible, then you might benefit form surgery, but I doubt many will observe that. There will be plently of guys who are circumcised who think the ligs are holding the penis’s true potential back, but this is actually more often than not simply the skin at the base of the penis, which comes unde tension as a results of insufficient shaft skin due to the circ. In fact I think alot of so called lig gains are more to do with skin stretching at the base.

Interestingly there are a couple of surgical procedures that are available that probably would have a decent effect of many members NBP length, but there aren’t common place. You can have the base skin pinned to the bottom om the shaft and this will give about a cm gain in many guys who have been tightly circumcised. Also you can have pubic lipo, which depending on how fat your are, give a cm or so extra. And scrotal web correction certainly gives the appearance of more length. None of these procedures actually lengthen the penis, so BPEL with still the same, but the 3 ops combined can have a really positive effect and are far less dangerous than lig cutting and will give far more consistent results. The average guy, who finds his skin at the base of the penis gets pulled up the shaft when erect, can say with confidence that he’d gain around 1-2cm NBP with skin pinning and lipo. Yet no one can say with any confidence they will gain that prior to lig cutting.

Just for the record and in case there is any confusion, I’m not seeking any penis surgery, the thread is a discussion only about the differences, I think it would be a good thing to have it on record about peoples personal experience’s who have had surgery, and those who have hung, or even better BOTH.

So do you think length surgery is only the start of the procedure of length gaining in the eyes of the surgeon? I’ve seen documentaries on it, and the doctor asks you to wear about 8 lbs for 8 hours per day. I’ve heard one say that If you wear it for 7 hours and 45 mins, then you’ve wasted 7 hrs and 45 mins.

I was trying to get to the bottom of the differences between the two, a lot of people seem to think that hanging is the long version of what penis surgery does, and a lot of people also think that the only true way to gain anything is with surgery. I think there is a lot doubt surrounding the surgery, I’ve never heard anyone genuinely say they are pleased with the results of the lengthening.

Oh come on, use your common sense. 8 hours a day? Who has that much time (except Bib ^^) to spend on penis enlargement? And 15 minutes less than required makes everything go to waste? That makes me think it’s even bigger bollocks. It’s not like your penis has a built-in chronometer that says “whoops, sorry pal, you’re 15 minutes short of 8 hours, better luck next time”.

That’s what I thought, but some people are rather to the letter, and I guess people like to over exaggerate to make sure their paying client doesn’t mess up.

I don’t believe that surgery works, I think you by the way you type, you are thinking I’m championing surgery, this is an open discussion, I just want to hear peoples point of view, not recommend surgery for penis enlargement.

What do you think the main benefit of hanging has over surgery apart from the cost upto7?

Safety, obviously. Anything is better than surgery. Hell, even nothing is better than surgery. Smaller functioning penis is better than bigger non-functioning penis or grotesque looking one.

I don’t advocate surgery and am in fact very much against it. But in terms of safety, the lig surgery, which is being discussed here, probably has a similar incidence rate as manual PE. Most of the terrible complications I’ve come across over the years are from the girth surgery or scar issue’s from the y/v incision which is no longer used. I think the biggest problem with the lig cutting is dissatisfaction with results. In terms of a non working penis I’d say you are probably as likely to damage yourself jelqing leading to ED, as you are from having your ligs cut. I haven’t come across a problem with lig cutting in a long time and the Dr’s who caused these problems have all since left the business.

Are you a Doctor joey999? It sounds like you work in the medical field.

No, just a guy who has had the surgery and it didn’t go well. Trying to fixed my botched surgery means I’ve done loads of research and met quite a few urologists to discuss the surgery and possible reconstruction opitions. I’ve joined a few forums over the years and met loads of other guys who have had the surgery and we’ve learned bits form each others experiences.

Could you send me the forum detail would like to study all aspects of different people. I think there is a lot to learn from people that have had their penis deformed via surgery.