Question for Bib or other hangers

Ok for the picture you are looking at it was when first applying the hanger before the tightening was complete. If you look at the other pics you WILL see the the teeth are closed about half way. My bad for not stating this when I sent them to you.

C Guy,

In none of the five pics did I see where the teeth were meshed at all. It appeared the closest gap was about 1/8 inch. When I say the teeth need to be meshed, I mean the hard white plastic teeth need to mesh at least somewhat.

Send me some more and I will tell you when it looks right.

Bigger

These pics were AFTER loosening the hanger. The color was not as dark, but it caused the hanger to slide forward. Even when NOT wearing the hanger the bottom side of the head is several shades darker than the topside. This was never there until the color became an issue. Not to be a smartass but I have been an artist since a very young age and color is my life. It was purple.

C Guy,

>These pics were AFTER loosening the hanger. The color was not as dark, but it caused the hanger to slide forward.<

I understand that. What I am saying is you loosened the top wing nut, and got a positive response in color. Now, you need to loosen the bottom adjustmenst some, and tighten the top adjustment a little to get the relationship between the two halves more correct. You can have the same degree of tightness, but simply a different angle of pressure, more on the top sides of the two major chambers, rather than on the bottom. I believe the hanger being too tight on bottom is leading to some of the color issues.

>Even when NOT wearing the hanger the bottom side of the head is several shades darker than the topside. This was never there until the color became an issue. Not to be a smartass but I have been an artist since a very young age and color is my life. It was purple.<

All I can go by is what you sent me. I saw nothing that would concern me if it was my unit. IOW, I dealt with a much darker discoloration while hanging, as well as after hanging.

Bigger

C Guy,

I saw your post and it interested me for the reasons you mentioned at the start. I too have had my pains with trying to get things right with the hanger and wanted to offer some ideas of what has helped me. I see you have tried just about everything and so have I. Bib suggested trying all kinds of different adjustments, wrapping etc and I certainly have.

I guess I’m kinda like a pitbull when it comes to things like this cause I usually don’t let up until I figure it out. Anyway, it looks like we are about the same flaccid girth, I’m 4.5” as well, using tee-shirt as the first layer and coach brand sports wrap as second layer (self sticking kind).

Here’s the thing. I’ve been playing with all kinds of adjustments, front to back, up and down, you name it.. and come up with what I think is the absolute best for my current situation. Maybe you can give it a go and see if it helps as well. What I did is:

Adjusted hanger (bottom hex-nuts) to these settings for a fairly radical “Toe-In” adjustment. Here’s the measurements I got on mine (Bib starter).
Front hex-nut distance is: 5/8”
Rear Hex-net distance is: 13/16”

Next, wrap rather loosely with both wraps mid-shaft or just behind the cir- scar. Then, pulling by the head w/ left hand, pull the wrapping down toward the base some. Attach the hanger and tighten slightly- pulling/ squeezing the blood from the head (all your basic stuff there).

Now tighten the hanger very (or close to) tight. The teeth on mine mesh pretty much all the way together. This is a pretty tight fit! You probably already know this but there will more skin in front of the hanger but I figure it will stretch with time anyway.

Now, the hanger will move forward some (actually feel it in the shaft) but the good news is it will ” lock-up” back behind the head. In this configuration, I’ve found it to stay well back from the head as it’s actually pushing internal structure ahead of it.

Hanging this way I now have absolutely 0 slippage! Granted the head does get a little purple-ish and cool but Im learning to deal with that (since my head hasn’t fell off yet) hehe. I had a bad slippage problem as well and this has really solved that for me. Give it a shot, can’t hurt…right?

in9

Ineed9, thanks for tryin to help. I did try your suggestion. Unfortunately it made the color worse. For comparison the purple color is about the same shade as the purple border (the darker one) on this forum which is about the same as before I tried BIB’s last suggestion. I also tightened the hanger and YES the teeth meshed but the hanger slid almost halfway over the head. Any more suggestions before i put this hanger to rest.

C Guy,

Well, I’m sure at a loss at this point. I really don’t know what to tell you. I know it’s really really frustrating when you try everything but nothing works right. Besides what I said before, all I can suggest is moving the hanger a little further back up toward the base more and see if it will put more internal structure ahead of the hanger.

That’s what I’ve been having to do just about every time now (for about 5 mins max). Actually I thought I had it all figured out and was thrilled but now, for no reason, slippage keeps creeping in again. I just don’t know???

Last night when trying to have sex my unit couldn’t keep a hard-on and that’s got me worried a little. Don’t know wht’s causing it. I’m gonna take some time off with the hanger and see if it gets better.

I don’t know, seems some guys make it work fine for them while others struggle with it, I just don’t get it either.
anyway, Hope you find something that’s works. I really do!!

Best,

in9

C Guy,

Did you ever get this resolved? I’ve been having the same exact problems. I’ve tried tight wrap, and virtually every setting up until wrap so loose it was barely resting on top of the skin. I’ve tried cloth, I’ve tried theraband, I’ve tried ace bandage. I’ve tried all kinds of combinations.

Anyways, just to test circulation I wrapped and attached the hanger at normal settings. I then put on some of my hottest porn to see what would happen (yes, I know it’s against the rules). The base was full on engorged with blood, but my glans was getting no circulation.

Actually as I write this I’ve decided to try another gamut of tests. Maybe I can hang lightweights “loose” until the tissues adapt? I know that Bib has written somewhere about how the tissues adapt to stress after a while. So…If I can get just a little bit tighter every few weeks until I’m hanging fatigue weight.

Myet. Now I’m thinking out loud. Sorry guys.

>”Maybe I can hang lightweights “loose” until the tissues adapt? I know that Bib has written somewhere about how the tissues adapt to stress after a while. So…If I can get just a little bit tighter every few weeks until I’m hanging fatigue weight. “<

All hanging is “lightweight” until the tissues adapt. That is one of the fundamental principles of safe hanging. If the tissues have not yet adapted then the chances of injury are higher. Don’t worry about fatigue until your tissues adapt. Hell, don’t worry about fatigue at all. Just keep slowly adding sets. Then, slowly add weight. Then, maybe, just maybe we can talk about fatigue….

My bad. I should have been clearer.

Let me start by saying that I’ve been wrapping with t-shirt, then theraband (props to: Piet). Then I attach the hanger.

Now, when I attach the hanger I’ve been attaching it so tight the teeth mesh completely. I think this is too much for me off the bat.

What I was trying to convey was this: What if my soft tissues are just exceptionally weak right now? I mean…what if I wrap just tight enough to avoid pinch but not any tighter, and then hang (toe out) so that there will be some slippage onto the meatus but not a lot? Another way of saying this is…how loose is too loose when I am beginning?

Is it normal for guys to have to increasingly adjust the hanger tightness rather than weight or time in the first few weeks? I mean, I can get something fairly close to my normal glans color and temperature with a bit less tightness, so is it ok to toy around in this range so long as the hanger rests only on the sides of the meatus and I don’t bump up weight?

Is overusage of the italics tags coupled with a lack of quality sleep making my posts nonsensible? Can soylent green really be people?

Anti,

>Now, when I attach the hanger I’ve been attaching it so tight the teeth mesh completely. I think this is too much for me off the bat. <

I think that’s too much for anyone. You want the teeth to mesh, but not fully so you have a little extra to tighten during the set. After a minute or so you usually need to tighten more, if the teeth are fully meshed you cant do this. Try winding the adjustment hex’s in a bit.

>What I was trying to convey was this: What if my soft tissues are just exceptionally weak right now? I mean…what if I wrap just tight enough to avoid pinch but not any tighter, and then hang (toe out) so that there will be some slippage onto the meatus but not a lot? Another way of saying this is…how loose is too loose when I am beginning? <

Over time your dick will get better at supplying blood in the constricted hanging state, but you should be able to do some work. Before we get to wrap tightness and other cute stuff, give more info.

How much weight are you using? How much wrap do you use (can you measure it for me)? How long of a set can you go before getting the cold head? Is temperature/colouration the only problem, is there any pain?

>Is overusage of the italics tags coupled with a lack of quality sleep making my posts nonsensible? Can soylent green really be people?<

I don’t know anti. I just don’t know.

Good Luck
SS4

Ok. The wrap combination I seem to do best with is a 26” strip of t-shirt cotton, sometimes in combination with a 15” strip of theraband. Although I seem to get slightly better results with just the t-shirt material.

Even without weight I still get a bit of discoloration. No cooler than normal.

As far as weight goes, I’ve got a 1.1 kg plate that I’ve been playing with. After about five minutes the head is discolored and cold. If I go to 15 minutes I stay about the same but at 20 it drops to complete numbness. Yeah, I know it’s breaking the rules to go that long so early but I just had to try it once. No pain except on the sides of the cc’s.

In theory should I be able to sit with the hanger on without weight for extended periods of time (30 minutes+)??

Curses! I was counting on your spider senses to aid me…

Thanks, bro

-antistar

Anti,

>Ok. The wrap combination I seem to do best with is a 26” strip of t-shirt cotton, sometimes in combination with a 15” strip of theraband. Although I seem to get slightly better results with just the t-shirt material. <

That sounds like a lot of wrap. Maybe this is the trouble right here. Have you experimented with less?

>As far as weight goes, I’ve got a 1.1 kg plate that I’ve been playing with. After about five minutes the head is discolored and cold. If I go to 15 minutes I stay about the same but at 20 it drops to complete numbness. Yeah, I know it’s breaking the rules to go that long so early but I just had to try it once.<

There definitely should not be a problem at 1.1kg. Try winding the hex nuts in a little, and with less wrap, and report back. As for the tightness, wrap tight enough so that it is in place, it should not feel ‘slack’. After you have the wrap on, sit for 5 minutes or so, and see if the head swells up. If it does, loosen it a little, and sit a few more minutes until the head doesn’t swell. That should be right.

>No pain except on the sides of the cc’s. <

I assume you mean where the hanger is attached. This isn’t good either. See if you still get the pain with the adjustments above. Is the pain only there during hanging, or does it remain after hanging if you prod around in the area?

>In theory should I be able to sit with the hanger on without weight for extended periods of time (30 minutes+)?? <

I’m not sure, but that would not be a good test of the settings compared to an actual set of hanging, if that is what you are getting at.

>Curses! I was counting on your spider senses to aid me…<

No tingling here, sorry.

SS4

Alright, SS4 check this out.

Previously I’d tried the theraband alone, ace bandage and the t-shirt material. I’d say at least 50 attempts with the t-shirt alone, 50 with the t-shirt/theraband combo and 75 with the theraband alone. Myabe 5 with the ace bandage; I loathed that stuff. This was over the course of maybe 4 months.

I picked up some gauze bandage rolls today at the supermarket. Nothing, and I mean nothing even so much as compares to the comfort level I felt with this stuff. I tried a 22” piece at “snug” like you said.

Now, when I put this stuff on and hung(1.1 kg plate) with it I got a mixed bag. The head was slightly discolored. It was a light brown(almost identical to the shaft skin…a touch more red) whereas it’s usually a dull pink. I took this as a good sign. The head was a bit cold. I’d say somewhere in between normal and the temperature I’ve been talking about in earlier posts…veering much closer to normal. Maybe 3 degrees difference. Not cold to the immediate touch, but if I let my glans set in my palm a few seconds I could feel the cold. No swelling of the glans.

As far as the CC pain goes, yes it’s on the side of the shaft where the hanger is attached. It’s residual, definitely from attaching the hanger too tight before.

How come?

EDIT: I forgot to say, my flaccid girth is 4” unwrapped

BIB,

Is it wrong to have the teeth fully meshed or close to it? This seems to work best for me……….