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I don’t know why you anticipate the above perspective but if you incorporate hanging principles to include hanging at angles and in addition fulcrums you could easily see your gains continue without increases in weight.

Maybe you’re right, I could be too pessimistic. Bibb seemed to get 1/4” per month in gains on average, perhaps I’ll get lucky. I tried your idea of intermittent OTL hanging during an SO set, and it worked great. I can twist my chair so that the weight rope goes over one leg, then the other. It is a cool idea: thank you. It seems that it changes the stress on my penis, emphasizing different areas and giving a more complete workout.

The thing that is so great about Thunders is the good advice I get here. Experienced folks like you, firegoat, tps, monkeybar, cantlook, etc have learned a lot and are willing to give the rest of us many good tips.

The water idea is clever. I believe a gallon of water weighs 8 lbs.

I use large washers that I get from the local Tractor Supply store for one pound increases ( exp. 5 washers = 1 pound) and regular barbell plates. You can mix other size washers for smaller increases.

Perhaps mentioned in another post some time ago:

Aside from 2.5 & 5 lb plates, I use the screw-on collars from the chrome dumbbell sets that are sold in pretty much any sporting goods store.

I have sets from a few different dumbbells, and the collars weigh either 0.75 or 1.25 lbs. Fantastic flexibility for incremental progression.

Google image page of the dumbbells sets:
http://tinyurl.com/qypnqst

You might look at post #5 in this thread.

SO or Straight Out Hanging
SO hanging is the only way to go as far as I am concerned.
I do have a different approach to SO hanging in that I use a Bungee cord and anchor it in a couple of different ways. One is to anchor my bungee to a bracket that mounts on the back of my desk which is very close to crotch level. The other anchor is utilizing a bracket that fits on the hinge side of a door and can be moved up and down as needed.
Now one of the great advantages of SO hanging is the ability to not only pull straight out from the pelvis but merely twisting the hips from that position left or right which provides OTL (Over the Leg) angles. When those angles are incorporated into your routine you will find that length gains will progress faster.
Now in addition I could move the door bracket up or down to achieve additional angles and twisting the hips left or right from those positions just added to the stretching of the ligs so that SO was significantly enhanced. BTW stretching from the eye level anchor provides a stretch to the underside of the ligs which no other hanging position can provide.
There is also a very nice additional benefit to hanging angles and that is over the long term an increase in girth. I didn’t expect it but when my wife pointed out that her jaw was sore because I was bigger I checked and sure enough I had gained a full inch in girth. That meant that after I reached my length goal I didn’t have to do any girth work.
Now I should point out here that the amount of time devoted to angles doesn’t have to be anywhere near the SO position time. What is happening here is stretching the outer edges of the ligs which weakens them and then when the SO position is applied the center of the ligs stretches easier. Hence faster gains.

I would not recommend angles for than a minute or two stretching from angles. The predominant time consumed for a routine should be in the SO position. Typically I would use a 20 minute hanging time. Given that Gangren can set in when circulation is disrupted for periods exceeding 20 minutes, I strongly suggest routines that don’t exceed that 20 minute time limit. What I would do is release the clamp pressure on my hanger and allow 5 minutes or more for the color to return to normal then I would clamp up tight and do another 20 min. set with out taking the hanger off at all. This would allow me to accomplish several sets in a short amount of time.


Now I must reveal here that I found addition exercises that provides continued gains without increasing weight or stress levels. Those exercises incorporate Fulcrums into the angles above. If you’d like to receive a copy please feel free to ask.

Monty:,

Yeah that would be great, post it here.

Buster,

Nice to see you posting again.

Fulcrums from any angle
Much adieu has been made about hanging in terms of breaking up a routine to facilitate the philosophy of divide and concur. The principle of changing stress levels and changing angles of attack, taking breaks and applying various forms of stress from jelqing, to clamping, to orange bends, to pumping, not to mention manual v stretches.
One of the aspects of hanging which produces the greatest amount of flexibility in terms of changing the stresses on the ligaments is straight-out (SO) hanging which turns out is really not hanging at all but stretching with a Bungee Cord in the place of Weights and gravity. The advantage of course is the ability to change stress angles almost instantaneously just by twisting of the hips and changing the anchor point of the Bungee from crotch level to eye level achieving straight-up (SU) stresses. Both of these approaches alleviates the problem recognized by Bib known as the LOT theory. The usage of gravity only can be seen as passe when a comparison is made to the two techniques. The reason for this thread though is not to discuss the attributes of Bungee hanging but a multiplication of the advantages to it by way of fulcrums.
Unlike fulcrums applied to gravity hanging which requires in some cases a pipe across the legs and the stretching of the penis over the pipe and down to the weights, may I suggest that fulcrums utilizing a Bungee Cord will increase the ability to apply stress to the ligaments in almost a pin-point way. Whereas in gravity hanging the ligaments are stretched from their top side only. Further exacerbating the problem addressed by the LOT theory.

Fulcrums applied to Bungee SO hanging can be done with no additional tools what-so-ever. All that is required is your Thumb which when applied to the top pushing down in the middle of the stretched shaft, or the side of the stretched shaft to the left or right producing a 90 deg angle to the direction of the stress will in effect stretch the outside portion of the ligament to the stress angle.

For those who are bored from hanging and are looking for a means to not only provide variation but also a means to accelerate gains, this method can produce gains where they have plateau’d or stopped all together. The application of fulcrums can easily avoid the seeming necessity to increase hanging weight and instead provide a means to get things moving again at the same weight levels that previously produced gains.

The utilization of fulcrums can alleviate the necessity to increase stress weight for several weeks because the same amount of weight or stress is focused upon the fulcrum point. When fulcrums are applied in a systematic manner the gains will increase from previous plateau’s because when you stress the outside of the ligaments and then return to the straight-out anchor the ligaments are weakened on the outer edges and the center is then allowed to receive all the stress previously shared by the full strength and structure of the ligament. This then becomes the means by which the DIVIDE and CONCUR principle is achieved.
When Fulcrums are utilized by the beginner to hanging at initially low weights the result can and usually is accomplishment of length goals at very low stress or weight levels.

Regarding “stretching with a Bungee Cord in the place of Weights and gravity”: this is an interesting idea. One of the advantage of hanging with weights (as opposed to a bungee cord) is that you can carefully control the amount of force that’s applied. When you use a bungee cord, this isn’t as easy. I’d think that folks that try this should try to keep the distance the bungee cord is stretched as steady as possible, limiting the force fluctuation. Do you agree, Monty? Or is this a needless concern? Is paying attention to fatigue and PIs enough?

Needless Concern.

What I do is create a calibration chart and with a tape measure attached to the Bungee, it will tell you exactly how long the stretch is and you can check out on the chart exactly how much weight that would amount to.
This is one of beauties of the Bungee. To increase relative weight all you need to do is step back or forward. That’s a lot faster then dealing with weights.
It also allows for momentary increases in weight to augment the need for breaking up toughened tissues.

There’s an additional advantage to Bungee hanging in that you can measure your progress extremely accurately by measuring while your hooked up SO. All it takes is to put a ruler on your pelvis and measure out to the end of the gland. This is extremely accurate because your measuring the length of your ligament. Far more accurate then trying to measure erect length.

I wish my mind could fathom this. So from a standing position, you twist your hips? How many degrees do you twist them? Do you have pics anywhere of your hanging device - what you hook your bungee cord onto?

Ok you’re standing and “hanging” straight out, how do you achieve over the leg ?

Pivot 90 deg either way? Facing north, now face either east or west.

Shhhush in the front row your classmate is still searching.

lol sorry, didn’t pick that up