Do's and Don'ts - the theories behind pumping (Page 2)

07-10-2008, 07:41 PM

gmarceau

Originally Posted by sta-kool

For some guys, masturbation does seem to be way too stressful if it is stacked on top of PE.
But for me, I find that edging and ballooning seem to help cement gains. I feel like it promotes healing. Rather than stressing the tissues, it seems to help my tissues. I base this partly on the function of nocturnal erections, which avocet8 describes so well in his Pumping and ED thread:
Vacuum Pumping when you have ED; the short version, according to Avocet8
So you can see why I think that edging is healthy for the penile tissues.
However I learned two things about myself:
— going longer than 30 minutes is counter productive for me. 45 minutes did indeed require recovery (wow, I just noticed that avocet8 says each nocturnal erection lasts around 30 minutes - interesting)
— if I don’t ejaculate at the end, recovery does not seem to be an issue at all. (However it is important for health to ejaculate several times a week)
I had to experiment and find the “sweet spot.”
Some guys can tolerate and thrive from edging, other guys get way too overstressed by it. It is like you say — you can’t copy someone else’s routine; you have to adapt things and see what works best for you.
(As an aside, one of the great things I have learned from the above is that I don’t need to ejaculate to have a good time. That was a real revelation!)

I wonder this sometimes too about ejaculating. Perhaps that has something to do with the stress. I thought someone had posted a while back on one of those masturbation debate threads, that the tissues begin to contract when ejaculation happens.

If you give yourself too much stress, then you’ll lose those 2-3 hours of maitenance clean up at night. However, if it’s about ejaculation, then I’m not sure. Perhaps it’s time for an experiment.

I also remember all the edging/ballooning talks where it was recommended to get close to ejaculating, but holding it back so that DHT could permeate(sp?) the cells allowing for tissue growth. I have no idea if this works or not, but maybe I should just try and balloon. I played around with it before and got some of the signs that it’s effective. It could be a good way to finish out a pumping session. We’ll see.

07-14-2008, 09:44 PM

xtendeddick

Originally Posted by G_want7

I haven’t got all my gains from pumping. My first gains were the result of a newbie routine. Then I started to pump at June at 5.5” x 4.5” and managed to jump to 6.3” x 4.8” until the end of the year. After that, I’ve reached a plateau, took some decon breaks and grew 0.2” more from a jelq-only routine.
I would recommend you to read all you can about pumping. I thought I did, when I started, but boy, I was so wrong!
Good luck, my friend!

While you were pumping and gaining length, did youe penis pump up to a longer length while in the tube? Currently, I am pumping and doing some jelqing and stretching on alternate days. My main focus is length. I have hit a plateau with jelqing, stretching, and ADS so I wanted to try something new. I have also taken deconditioning breaks as well. One thing I have noticed is that I am not getting any longer inside the tube, that I can tell, than my normal erect length. I am getting more girth. However, I also think my skin may need some stretching before I can get anymore length? When I am fully erect my skin is stretched to the max in regards to length. What do you think? Any suggestions?

FYI: I am pumping 3 sets, 5 minutes each, with 5 minutes of jelqing in between. Currently I am not experiencin any negative PIs. I am also using a rice sock to keep the pump and my penis warm.

Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

07-16-2008, 09:48 AM

G_want7

Originally Posted by xtendeddick

While you were pumping and gaining length, did youe penis pump up to a longer length while in the tube? Currently, I am pumping and doing some jelqing and stretching on alternate days. My main focus is length. I have hit a plateau with jelqing, stretching, and ADS so I wanted to try something new. I have also taken deconditioning breaks as well. One thing I have noticed is that I am not getting any longer inside the tube, that I can tell, than my normal erect length. I am getting more girth. However, I also think my skin may need some stretching before I can get anymore length? When I am fully erect my skin is stretched to the max in regards to length. What do you think? Any suggestions?
FYI: I am pumping 3 sets, 5 minutes each, with 5 minutes of jelqing in between. Currently I am not experiencin any negative PIs. I am also using a rice sock to keep the pump and my penis warm.

I’ve never really measured my penis while in the tube. Well, I could tell it was getting bigger, but I really never took any measurements that way.

In fact, I was astonished at what I was gaining, because to me, things weren’t changing that much! I would usually get some expansion and my penis would expand to its maximum, probably. I’ve never tryed very high pressures, so I never got a crazy expansion. At least lengthwise.

About your skin… I suggest you to read TGC theory by Iguana and Remek! Maybe this will help you! First of all, you’ll have to take some new measurements: BPFSL and BPEL. Then, you’ll compare the two of them the way that theory suggests you to. That will give you some idea of how do you need to stretch your skin to get some more length gains, or not.

Your pumping routine sounds pretty fine to me! When I get back to pumping, I will try a more conservative and light routine!

G_want7's log

2007: BPEL: 5.1 / MSEG: 4.5 / 2008: BPEL: 6.5 / MSEG: 4.8

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