Soft seals for LA pump?

Hello guys,

Just wondering if anyone knows where/if one can buy a soft seal for the LA pump cylinder such as the silicone seal that comes with the Velseal pumps at PumpToys. I tried pumping back last year, also hanging but hanging is really tough it seems any way you go so I’m wanting to get back into pumping.

While this cylinder is awsome, the bite of the flange sometimes becomes harsh on the pubic area after a few sets. After talking with Dan at Pumptoys I’ve decided it best to start out with a short jelk to begin then do 10 min pump sets. I’ll alternate between jelking and pumping for best results.

The Velseal cylinders look great but cost $95. If I can just find a seal for cheap then it’s the same thing… much cheaper!
Any ideas?

Thanks,
ineed9

What are you using now as a lubricant to seal the base of your cock to the tube?

I ended up using KY jelly. Put a coat on the base of my cock and a coat on the base of the cylinder and about 1-2 inches inside the cylinder. The KY cleans up in a snap and will not deteriorate any of the pump hardware.

gprent101,

I’m not pumping at current time. However, I was using Probe lube when I was and shave every other day. I tried just about everything including cocoa butter cream which works pretty good and cleans up good IMO. I did try KY jelly and KY liquid but if I remember correctly they are water based and seem to dry out on me.

At the time I was going for 15- 20 min sets in the tube and were probably too long in terms of the pump flange against the pub area. Shorter sets of 10 or so min will aliviate the problem better I think. A soft seal would be ideal but If I can’t find or make one then shorter sets will be the alternative.

ineed9

Of course everyone is different, but I never had the problem you describe and I am trying to figure it out. I was wondering what diameter tube you were using and I don’t know, was it too large? I bought a 2 inch and 2.25 inch. The 2 inch is perfect, but I was only able to use the 2.25 inch after pumping up in the smaller tube, but even then, it was not the ideal fit.

I have only one tube at present. I’ts an LA pumps cylinder 1 3/4” x 10”. Actually it’s the ideal size or was, sinse I am only mainly after gaining more length than girth. My EG is 5.25”. I checked my old calender the other day and found I went for 3 straight months pumping (summer, last year). I then, for some reason, started hanging again…not really sure why.

I think because the gains were coming to slow??? Anyway, the more I’ve read and more I read today, It seems that pumping and jelking while maybe slow, do bring gains If you stay consistant…true? About the time I stopped, I was actually packing the tube about 1” or so up the tube. So cylinder size is really ok. If I had stayed with it I would no doubt be packing the tube and gaining at least some length in that size tube.

I know what you mean about ideal tube size but you will probably grow into the 2.25” with time. I’ve tried mainly hanging off and on for years but it’s difficult with some of today’s gadgets and pumping seems so simple. son’t really know why I stopped. I think also I was worried about growing a new foreskin (i’m cut) and didn’t want that at all. But of everything I’ve tried I think pumping is the best of all.

ineed9

This is kind of a long shot, but it it works, it’s a lot cheaper than $95.

I went to Home Depot and bought a gardener’s kneeling pad for $2. this is just a rectangular piece of foam about an inch thick, and you normally just put it on the ground and kneel on it.

The pad is very dense closed-cell foam, and I just cut a donut shaped piece out, and it worked pretty well. I don’t shave, but vaseline seems to give a pretty good seal. It’s very comfortable.

The one thing you have to watch for is that one surface of the pad has a slick surface which has to be cut off - you need the raw foam on both sides to get a good seal.

Well, you never know. Two bucks and a little of your time. It might work.

OK, now after all that info, here comes the kicker. When I started pumping, like almost 2 years ago, I read all about how pumping makes you big, but the results just don’t last. I said to myself, well I will be different, and with my consistent routine, I will make the gains permanent.

I got so that I could pump up pretty huge, from 6x5 to 7.25x7! As long as I was pumping, I was big throughout the day. Horny as hell, nite hard-ons, and a nice flaccid package. Problem was, every time I took a break, for vacation, or whatever, my cock went back to almost original size. No matter what I tried, I just could not make the results permanent.

So, 2 months and 21 days ago, I converted back to a manual stretch and jelq program. The results, although not as flamboyant as the pump, have just been magnificent. And on my rest days, I don’t lose like I did when pumping. I now feel for sure I am on the road to permanent gains. I haven’t had turtle dick since I don’t know when, and my flaccid size is just fantastic. I am currently BPEL 7.25X5.75 and loving it.

Excellent gains gprent101!!!

It’s funny how some things seem to maybe be the trick then lose ground at some point. I look at the pump for it’s simplicity over many of the other means of enlargement but know it’s not the key alone. I like hanging myself and have used 2 different hangers with mixed results. Never really tried manual stretching but it may be the last resort.

That’s very impressive gains you’ve made in 2 yrs! I think I’ve made some as well but rather sporatic over time. That’s maybe why I quit pumping in favor of hanging. Hanging and using an ADS kept my flaccid hang nice and long with no depressurization after a few hours.

Did you use a cock ring after your pump sessions? I found they did help to keep the pump longer though it still does go away at some point. I took a look at a device called the PowerStretch. While I’ve learn’t not to place too much value on what promoters of these products say, this thing might be at least a means of working. Using the best of both worlds…pumping and hanging together. Who knows.

Oh yeah, thought I’d throw this in. PumpToys is coming out with a new stretcher/tension device in a few months. Dan at pumptoys told me about it in some back and forth emails. It’s suppose to use weights and/or tension. Maybe worth a look.

ChuckR,

Thanks for the info on the knee pads. I will take a look at the store and see if it may work. Like I said before though. I was going for some longer sets than I might should have been and the flange just started digging in my nuts. 10 min sets should be more resonable time with less digging…maybe?

ineed9

ineed9,

In regards to your did you use a cock ring after pump sessions question, yes I did, at first. Then I found, that after using a little less aggressive pump sessions, I could stay hard after coming out of the tube and enjoy a little (or a lot) erection massage. I must say it was fun to massage my cock when it was 7 inches girth, but, it was smoke and mirrors 7. If only it was permanent, but not.

Even after my disappointment with pump gains not being permanent, I have not given up on it. But for now, I am going to build my base on a little ole fashion hand action!

Yeap, I agree! the hand action should keep you where you are and then some building on what you’ve already got from the pump over time. Just wondering, do you feel you could cement even bigger gains using the pump and jelking alone over say another 6 mths to a year?

Jelking is suppose to add some length but mainly works better for girth, that’s been my experience anyway. Wow, reading your size gains again you’ve increased 1.25” length x 2” girth in the pump anyway. That’s not bad for using a pump IMO even if it is on a temporary level at times. 7” in girth is huge!!

As I understand it, after so much time has passed like the 2 yrs you’ve been pumping, it’s much easier to pump up very large in a short period of time? Wouldn’t a maintenance plan of 2- 3 times a week keep gains where they are? Did you also jelk and pump together or just mainly pump alone?

Sorry for all the questions but I’m impressed with what you have achived and thinking maybe pumping and jelking combined could actually be able to cement at least some true gains.? Just wondering this also, are you cut? have you grown a new foreskin from pumping that long?

Near the end of my pumping days, I tried using the pump/jelk combo in an effort to cement by pump gains, but unfortunately, that did not work for me either.

It is true, that the longer you pump, the faster you grow inside the cylinder. I also found that when I went for 30 minutes per session, the pump effect was phenomenal, but I guess that was mostly fluid build up. Still, it is very cool when that whopper comes out of the tube.

Yes, I am cut, and I had no foreskin growth growth from pumping.

You know, like I said, I may return to the pump one day. If I do, I will use less pressure. When I was pumping, I did experience some discoloration from ruptured capillaries, but all that has healed now with my jelq program. If I start to pump again, I want to maintain this healthy look.

I had that too, discoloration I mean, but It was no big deal as it returns to normal as you say with jelking. Glad to hear you didn’t grow any foreskin from long term pumping! That was one thing that really bothered me about using the pump. It’s also easy to get carried away as I did in the beginning. I went for only 3 mths but the first mth was just to adapt to pumping as I believe Avocet mentioned in a post. So I took it easy.

Now that I think back, I was hanging heavier the morning after and using a stretchy silicone cock ring after pump sets. I bought 5 of these silicone rings from Pumptoys (3- 1.25” and 2- 1.5”) and while they work pretty well the 1.25” would fall off after a couple of hours due to deflating. If I had kept going they would fit better over time I think. While these cockrings work ok could you recommend a certain type of CR you used? Perhaps leather, solid cockrings maybe? These are very stretchy and may not provide the best constriction.?

Also, when you hit 7” girth in the tube was you using the 2” or 2.5” tube?
Oops, I forgot I can figure that with a calculater hehe…

I guess it’s fair to say that over time the ligs actually do stretch or have to stretch to some degree in order for you to grow more length in the tube? That’s really all I’ve been after from any means of enlargement device but added girth wouldn’t hurt any thing. The 1 3/4” tube I have now is just right for gaining length (although slow). Yeap, I think I’ll have to give it another shot the more I think about it.

ineed9

Sorry, I didn’t go out and buy any fancy cock rings. I found some small 1/2 inch wide rubber bands and used those. But like I said, I didn’t need them after a while and since I was 51 at the time, it was just fun standing erect on my own.

The calculator is not going to help on the next answer, although I tried it too. For what ever reason, I reached my 7 inch girth when I packed my 2 inch tube. OK, do the math: circumference equals pi x D. So 3.14159 x 2 equals 6.28. After being packed for a while, I came out of the tube at 7.0 girth. Guess I was just tightly packed.

When I would switch to the 2.25 tube, I just couldn’t get the same results. My length was not as good and my girth was not as good. I guess because the 2 inch tube was just a custom fit for me, that is where I got my best result.

Just be careful when you pack, because that is when water blisters can form on the head, and they are a bitch.

Thank you much for the advice on packing, and I’m listening! Yes, I’d agree the 2” is the perfect fit for you! if you one day start back maybe you could get the 2.25” to be custom as well. I don’t doubt it! I’m 47 about to turn 48 but feel good so I think I’ll keep at this PE thing as long as I can. Hopefully one day I’ll finally get there.

I’m gonna use the pump and if someday a non-frustrating hanger comes along then maybe I’ll use that instead but for now the pump will do. You’ve made some great gains and I know others have as well using the pump with other manual techniques so I know it can be done. Just need to get off my butt and start again.

Yeah, I know what you mean about standing erect on it’s own. I’ve noticed a pretty big slow down in erections and some lose of wanting sex like I use to but it just comes with age I guess. I think the pump will help with those issues a lot as well. You’ve offered some great info on pumping and is very much appreciated!! May we both look forward to some awsome gains in the future.

ineed9