6 Months And No Gains

Hi! Long time lurker here! This is my first post and sadly I don’t have good News.

So I been doing the linear routine for 6 months. I wasn’t measuring because I didn’t want to stress about size.

I begin with a couple of jelqs, and now 6 months later I ended with 25 stretchs of 30 seconds each, and 80 jelqs. I do 5 minutes warm up and 5 minutes warm down with heat.
My routine takes 30 minutes more or less.

I try to follow the PI’s, my dick is no “cord like” and I have good erection quality. My flaccid is much bigger but erect size is the same as the beginning :(

And I don’t know if I went to slow or to fast? Its strange that I don’t gain anything.

Whats your opinion? I really appreciate the input of the experienced members.

For the moment I’m taking a month for decondition and then restart PE.

Very disappointed :(

I think I have a similar condition where I have no “hidden dick”. There’s a lot of stuff out there about having a hidden inch that comes out in the newbie routine. I probably got my hidden inch out yanking on the thing like a caveman in my teen years. Time to step up the game! I ordered a Quick Extender Pro that is supposedly a game changer for length. Will be documenting results for sure. It sounds like you worked up the necessary conditioning, maybe give extenders or hanging a try. Carefully.

Everyone is different, but I’m curious why you didn’t follow the newbie routine. I personally require a much heavier workout to gain. Some gain with very light routines, but many do not. I keep a chart of workouts, pi’s, and sex to monitor and see if my routine is too much, not enough, or just right. If I wake with an erection the day after a fairly hard routine, then I know I’m in the zone and stay with that routine until I’m not seeing results.

I try the newbie routine for 3 months a year ago but I have bad PI’s, loss of erection quality, and the hardened tissue.

So I began to read lot of posts here and think may be I need a more gentle approach. And that’s what I done, and had great PI’s, even better in the first 3 months.
But sadly 6 months passed and I didn’t gain anything.

So now I’m back to square one because I don’t know if I need an even gentler and slower approach, or I need a heavier workout.

I think the safest method would be to increase until you have negative pi’s, then stick for a month at that routine which did not give negative pi’s. If growth is seen, you could then consider to stay at that routine and only increase if gains stop. I stalled for a few months and tried a few changes until I saw progress again. Detailed notes really help, but it takes time to find the zone.

Wait till you reach the 10 year mark with no gains. Im still doing PE cause i refuse to give up hope, but I’m already set in my mind at getting Pmma. It’s just so expensive, but it does give you permanent girth gains. The average person to reach their goals requires 3 sessions of it, which should give you 1 inch to 1.5 inches.

total cost with plane tickets and hotels around 15k (ouch)

Then you can focous on length. My goal is 7×6 I’m just around 1.5 inches from both 😞

So typically people will go into the newbie routine, or just follow X, Y, or Z it worked for me post when it comes to someone not gaining. However, from what it sounds like:
1. Youve tried the newbie routine before and got a LOT of negative PI’s. So you didnt go back to it, which is a great choice IMO.
2. You started a new routine and did 6 months. Monitoring PI’s gave good results but the gains did not follow.

So the question is where do you go from here?

Let me start by saying that your mindset on not measuring is the right one, but maybe can be altered a bit so you dont burn another 6months. I would say moving forward, try to set your sights on 1 month as the measuring marker. Purely since you haven’t had any gains in PE yet I think 1 month on the right routine you should see some movement, even only slightly, in the right direction. I also think it will be a good barrier that allows you to not obsess over size and focus on the routine, while at the same time giving you a quicker reach to the moment of truth. From there this allows you to revisit your routine more often hopefully wasting less time moving forward.

Secondly, we have to remember that everyone does respond differently and there is a very good chance you just haven’t found your golden ticket yet. You will notice a trend if you look at some of the veteran logs, that most have found a routine or a set of exercises they stick to. For some thats jelqs, or clamping, or pumping. This comes down to that most veterans at one point or another have tried many different things, and eventually found the thing they respond best to, and once that happens they tend to stick with them.
Since you have about 9 months under your belt and seem to be fairly conscious of negative and positive PIs, id argue that your more than well competent enough to try some of the more indeterminate-advanced techniques out there other than stretches and jelqs. It might be worth starting to explore some of those things; Pumping, Hanging, Clamping along with a steady routine of jelqs and stretches. Perhaps just read around and find the ones that will be easiest bar to entry for you at this time to incorporate, do some research and give it a try. I should clarify, I only mean to try one of these more advanced things one at a time, dont try adding them all in at the same time.

As you start exploring these other things, give yourself 2-3 months to test the waters and see where you are at that time. If your lucky, you might find the thing that you respond to and start to see some gains from it. I would say for the time being just focus on the cheapest way to enter, unless money is no issue. That way youre not spending a fortune on other tools while you test the waters.

Just as a disclaimer I always add when I give specific advise like this. I dont know you, nor do I know your body or what it needs. I can only offer up things based on my personal experiences and what I would be doing if I found myself in your shoes. For me, I did gain a bit when I got into jelqs and Ive tried several things over the years, especially at the start. I found that for me personally I respond best to pumping, and have since invested more into pumping and building routines solely around that. Again, I think youll find that many veterans or advocates of the other exercises out there have had similar experiences to this. In that they have tried a couple different things out there, found things that gave them the best, feeling, results or what have you, and have since invested more time and effort into those ideas. Hopefully youre able to do the same.
Just remember to do proper research before jumping into one, and dont add all of them or even 2 of them at the same time. You want to limit the variables you add so if you find that golden ticket, your sure its the one. Best of luck.

OMooseknuckle is spot on. I have tried numerous routines over the years, but for me, stretching, pumping, and jelqing was the combination that worked. With those I could train till fatigued and I was recovered by morning. For me this has resulted in growth, but its slower right now than I’d like. As long as I have morning wood after a routine, I know I am on track. I too only measure 1 time per month.

Hey man, as stated newbie routine is for conditioning your penis. Now you have done you have other options. I’d go for hanging till fatigue, checking PI’s as you did. IMO hanging will make it grow nothing else has given me results.

Hi guys! First of all thanks for your responses! Really helpfull. And I agree with everything you say.

Measuring once per month is a very good strategy. I’m going to stick with that!

And for the golden ticket or goldilocks zone is spot on. I actually have a “Journal” where I keep track of the exercises. So reading through it I realize that in the first 3 months, every time I add a couple of stretchs or jelqs my PE’s improve. But then things stalled. The last time I get awesome PE’s was last month When I add 10 jelqs.
A couple of days ago I add 10 more stretchs of 30 secs each (may be it sounds like a very little amount, but for the way I was adding exercises, is a big number) and my PE’s were awesome.
So now its clear to me that I have to do more and not less. Thats why I wasn’t gaining, I was going too slow.
I  agree with the more intermediate exercises. Sadly I can’t use any Device at the moment, but I may try some V stretchs or something like that. What do you guys think?
Looking at my routine, I progressively focused more and more on stretchs, because my goal is lenght. But I do very little jelqs, only 80. Should I add more jelqs?

What do you guys think of a decon break? The tissue of my dick is excelent, very flexible and elástic, but may be a week or two can do some good.

I’d simply add a small amount more to what your doing.

I will! Thanks for the responses!

Hey GP, are you doing your routine everyday, 7 days a week ? Or are you putting in off-days ? As Tiltletist says, add some. Try 100 jelqs for a month, and measure as you say, then 125 for a month and measure, then 150. If you are growing then, keep doing it, or alter things a bit. For exsample; do the stretching and jelqing in a session, and add another session the same day doing just 100 jelqs - and then take a day off, and repeat. Like training in a gym, shock your body once in a while, and monitor your PI’s. You will find your sweetspot in one way or another. Like Moose says; try to add another thing, like an extender, ads, hanger, pump, but do it slowly and easy, and make variation in your routine if the growing are at a halt. Good luck.