Fbs

Hello everyone and welcome in my thread. I am FutureBigShock (FBS) and this is going to be, hopefully, my progress log. I hope you all doing good on these hard times!

So, I’ve been thinking if I should start this thread but as it seems I have no other choice. The reason is that other more experienced people can help me on my way.
I started PE again 7 months ago and my results are not the one I hoped for. Let me tell you what I did.

Started at 17.9.2019 and I was going for 3 months of straight manual PE. Doing 2on 1off length routine.
Starting measurements:
NBPEL: 15,3cm / 6,023”
BPEL: 17,4cm / 6,850”
MEG: 14cm / 5,511”
BEG: 15,2cm / 5,984”
width: 4,7cm / 1,850”
BPFSL: don’t know, did not measured (facepalm)

Routine 1st month and half:
-10min heat up
-21min stretching ( stretching into 9 directions{straight down, down west, down east, west, east, up west, up east, straight up, straight out} first three directions held for 3min each, the rest of them only for 2min each).
-50 dry jelqs
-6min stretching (now only 3 directions {straight down, down west, down east}, 2min each stretch)
-50 dry jelqs
-1min firegoat roll
-IR heating during whole routine

Routine 2nd month and half: increased stretching time and number of jelqs, the pattern is same.
-10min heat up
-24min stretching ( stretching into 9 directions, first three directions held for 3min each, the rest of them only for 2:30min each).
-60 dry jelqs
-7:30min stretching (now only 3 directions, 2:30min each stretch)
-60 dry jelqs
-1min firegoat roll
-IR heating during whole routine
After a month I changed straight down stretch for BTC stretch and keep it that way till the end.

Ended at 14.12.2019
Measurements:
BPFSL: 18,4 / 7,244
BPEL: 18 / 7,086 / (+0,6cm)
NBPEL: 15,5 / 6,102 / (+0,2cm)
TEG: 13,5 / 5,314 (Top erect girth, right under the glans)
MEG: 14,5 / 5,708 / (+0,5cm)
BEG: 16 / 6,299 / (+0,8cm)
width: 4,8 / 1,889 / (+0,1cm)

With my last day I get large red dot so I took break for a month. As you can see, there are some gains but nothing serious for three months.

I started again at 11.1.2020 and I was going for another three months of manual PE using the same routine as I did before.
I did not lost anything over that month break.

Routine 1st month:
-10 minutes heat up (IR lamp)
-21min stretching (BTC, DW, DE 3 min. E, W, UE, UW, SU, SO 2 min.)
-50 dry jelqs
-7,5min stretching (BTC, DW, DE 2:30min)
-50 dry jelqs
-1 minute of firegoat rolls
-IR heating during whole routine

Routine 2nd month:
-10 minutes heat up (IR lamp)
-24min stretching (BTC, DW, DE 3 min. E, W, UE, UW, SU, SO 2:30 min.)
-60 dry jelqs
-9min stretching (BTC, DW, DE 3min)
-60 dry jelqs
-1 minute of firegoat rolls
-IR heating during whole routine
-After 3 weeks I changed all BTC, DW, DE, E and W stretches for fulcrum stretches to the same directions and I keep that till the end of whole 3 months. The time for each stretch remained the same depending on its direction.
-I used fulcrum with diameter of 4,5cm / 1,77” and for Straight Down stretch I used fulcrum with 1,2cm / 0,47” diameter and changed its position during the stretch after each minute, so 3 times during the whole 3:30min straight down stretch.

Routine 3rd month:
Changed from 2on/1off to 5on/2off and again raised time for stretching and number of jelqs.
-10 minutes heat up (IR lamp)
-28:30min stretching (SD, DW, DE 3:30min. E, W, UE, UW, SU, SO 3 min.)
-70 dry jelqs
-10:30min stretching (SD, DW, DE 3:30min)
-70 dry jelqs
-1 minute of firegoat rolls
-IR heating during whole routine

I ended at 10.4.2019 and then I’ve been taking measurements every day for a whole weak to get real results.
Here they are:
BPFSL: 18,4 / 7,244 / +0
BPEL: 18,3 / 7,204 / +0,3cm
NBPEL: 15,5 / 6,102 / +0
TEG: 13,5 / 5,314 / +0
MEG: 14,6 / 5,748 / +0,1cm
BEG: 16,5 / 6,496 / +0,5cm
width: 4,9 / 1,929 / +0,1cm

So as you can see there are almost no gains. I am mainly concerned about my BPFSL and that it did not increased during the 2nd three months phase. That is why I started with Fulcrum stretches as I’ve heard that they can help with BPFSL.
Why am I concerned? Because many guys say that your BPFSL should be about 1,3cm / 0,5” longer than your BPEL and that it is the ideal scenario for keeping length gains on the way.

My goal is length, Soft cap would be 18cm / 7” NBPEL, hard cap is 20cm / 7,9” NBPEL. About girth I have no goal since I am happy with it, but I don’t really mind if I gain something on the way to my length goal.
That is also a reason why I ordered vacuum pump and I would like to use it in the next three month phase alongside with manual PE.
The vacuum pump that I ordered have these measurements:
- 22,9cm / 9” long
- 5,5cm / 2,165” diameter (17,28cm / 6,8” girth)
So it should be ideal for aiming length with my current size.

I was planning to take another month decon break and start around 15.5.2020 with next three months phase.
I know, it is long reading but I wanted to be detailed with my routines so everyone can see exactly what I did and then see some mistakes or anything that could help me and lead me to gains. Because now I am little bit upset, I am not gonna lie :D

That is for the first post in this thread. I hope I can achieve some of my goals by posting here what I do and then talk about it with experienced guys. And if it will work, then other guys who are trying maybe can get some ideas from this thread. That would be awesome as well. Stay healthy and have patience, guys!

-FBS

I think your gains are really good. Did you gain 1,5 cm in base girt from 6 month training?

That BEG is probably because of difference in measurement. It is kinda hard to find the same measurement spot for BEG because I have to pull my balls sack in the anus direction so its skin does not increase the measurement, and the BEG is affected the most from all girth measurement by the level of my erection. Because my CS is most prominent at that spot and represent huge part of my girth. So even a slight drop in blood pressure can make big difference.
That is what I hate on CS, it is changing its volume so fast and so easily but it also represent a big part of my girth because it is very prominent from the very bottom of my penis almost all the way up to glans. Only TEG is not that much affected by CS in my case.
On the other hand my CC’s hold the blood much better so even if my pressure drop a bit, they still holds the same volume…
So I would say that I gained 1cm rather than 1,5cm BEG. But these are the stats that I have on my progress log from the times when I started, so I had to use them.

And lets be honest, BEG will probably never see any hole from inside so I don’t care so much about BEG as I do about TEG and MEG, if you get what I mean ;)

Update:
It is been 4 weeks now since I started my another 12 weeks of PE.

What I’ve done in these 4 weeks:
The setup is 5 days on, 2 days off.

Week 1:
10 min warm up with hot water
10 min stretching with heating the unit
10 min stretching without heating
10 min stretching with heating the unit
10 min stretching without heating
60 dry jelqs
10 min -5Hg pumping

Week 2:
Stretching and jelqs remain the same
Increased pumping time to 15min at -5Hg.

Week 3:
Stretching remain the same, followed by
10min -5Hg pumping
60 dry jelqs
10min -5Hg pumping

Week 4:
Stretching remain the same, followed by
10min -5Hg pumping
50 dry jelqs
10min -5Hg pumping
50 dry jelqs
10min -5Hg pumping

Few points that I’ve made.
- I really need to make or buy grip device for stretching. 40 minutes is a lot and my forearms gets tired. Then the stretching is not constant and as good as it could be. I guess the vacuum grip system such as penimaster pro have, would be the Best because the whole shaft is exposed for heating then.

-The pumping is really fun. It is my first time using pump. I thought that just by pumping to -5Hg make my unit erect in the pump. That is not true. The penis is only filled with blood but it is not erect. You have to arouse yourself in order to be fully erect.

-I do not want to measure myself before 12 weeks end, but since the pump have measuring scale I can already see there is probably some progress. In the week 1 I was able to reach around 18.5cm mark in the pump. At the end of week 4 I was able to reach 19.2cm mark.
Also my flaccid seems to be larger.

Half of my shaft is already packing the tube, the rest is slowly following. The pump is 23cm deep so I have plenty of room to grow in length. I guess If I keep pumping in this tube, my girth gets pretty even along the whole length by the time I hit my length goal.

For the next 8 weeks I will do the same volume of PE as I did in week 4. Then I will measure myself and hopefully see some gains.

That is all for now.

Hey FBS!
What grip do you use when you stretch?

Hi Patrik!
I use standard overhand OK grip. Holding my unit right before glans with my thumb, index and middle finger.
Because I am uncut I have to pull my skin back and hold my unit right before and on the glans. Glans and the area of 1-2cm before glans is the only part that do not slip while stretching.

But still I have to switch my hands about every two minutes cause they get tired or start slipping.

I’m uncut to and have to pull back the foreskin.
Have you tried the v-grip? With that grip I can hold a stretch for a long time without exhausting my hands.
And I think that grip get you several options to stretch.

The v-grip is fine if I stretch to sides and with dry skin. I find v-grip very exhausting on my wrist if I use it for straight out stretch and it slips very easily when my unit is wet.

Ok, something is happening in my PE life and I just don’t understand.

In 2019 I’ve started rather long period of PE. I’ve been PEing whole February and March with newbie routine.

Then I’ve been doing for whole June and July:
-10 minutes heat up (IR lamp)´
-20min feeling stretches (all 9 direction once, SD, SW, SE, two times)
-50 dry jelqs
-6min feeling stretches (SD, SW, SE)
-50 dry jelqs
-1 minute of firegoat rolls
And gained nothing. Then went to USA.

When I’ came home from USA in September I’ve did PE for next 90 days. It was the same routine as you see above. In first 60 days I’ve gained +0,5cm girth from 14 to 14,5cm.
Then I’ve rested for one month and started another 90days of PE routine that you see above. With little changes like more time under stretch and adding fulcrum stretching but in general it was still same routine. Gained nothing,
After these 90days I’ve took another month of decondition break and started my third 90days cycle with the same routine but I’ve added a little bit of vacuum pumping into it. So that move us into July 2020 and still with zero gains.
At the end of the third 90days cycle I was only pumping, no more stretching or jelqing. If I remember it correctly I was able to pack only first 7cm of my tube in that times while pumping 3x 15min at -5Hg.
I have always used constant heat for every routine. Either IR lamp or hot water or rice sock.
Then I took break from PE with just occasional random routine here and there for just few days…

For 2020 Christmas I’ve bought PMP to try it on because I have full time job and GF at home so I do not have the room, privacy and time for full PE routine. Stealth extender in work looked like good idea. I’ve started in January 2021 wearing my PMP and after month and a half I broke it.
ADVICE FOR PMP users: DO NOT TIGHTEN THE VALVE TOO STRONG or you will break the screw part on your head piece like I did :)
So without PMP, time, privacy and zero gains I’ve stopped PE once again.

Now here comes the interesting part that I do not understand.
I started vacuum pumping at April this year (2 and a half months after I broke my PMP and stopped with PE). 4 days on, 3 days pause, morning and afternoon, both times 5 / 5 / 10minutes with 4-5Hg without any heat or warmup. It was just fast cold pumping before and after work.
Just after two weeks of this pumping I’ve already measured +0,5cm girth difference! I know you will think it is pumped up state, but I’ve measured it few hours after any pumping and even at the very end of my rest days right before I start with another pumping week.
And I can clearly see that I am packing more and more of my tube. Started around 6,5cm from base. After first two weeks I packed already 7,5cm and after another week and half I’ve been packing 8cm.
Last two days I’ve started using my heat system for pumping and today I’ve hit 8,5cm mark. Still with the same 5 / 5 / 10 minutes routine, twice a day.

I do not understand. After all my PE attempts did I just randomly found something that works for me? And it is something with such a small volume as 40min low pressure cold pumping???
I hope once I will fully pack the tube girth wise I will see some length gains as well, but I do not count with that too much :/ Seems like it is not possible for me to gain any length at all…
I am just really confused. And on top of that my PI’s are still the same.
I turtle pretty much the same, I do not have any bigger flaccid after PE. I usually have morning wood only when I need to pee in the night.
I do not understand how you guys know that you have night erections but when I sleep I do not remember anything :D So really not sure if I have these…¨
Random erection through the day? What is that? It happens only when I get aroused by some very sexy girl or some thoughts about something sex related.

Any ideas why is this happening?

Ok, what the f*** is happening? Like seriously, how does this work so well?

Today I measured myself 2 hours after pumping and I have another 0,5cm extra MEG :O
When I started, 1.April I had 13,5cm TEG / 14,5cm MEG and 16cm BEG. (not pumped)
Now I am 14,5cm TEG / 15,5cm MEG and 17cm BEG! (basically all week long, does not matter if right after pumping or 6 hours later)

I know these are not real gains so far, but the progress is so obvious and fast! I am packing the tube little bit more literally everyday.

I seriously hope this trend will continue and sooner or later it will translate into length gains as well.
Length was always bitch to me and it doesn’t look like it will change too much :/

Summary of my 5 weeks pumping route.

Size data:
My tube is:
23cm / 9” long.
5,5cm / 2,165” wide.
17,3cm / 6,8” circumference.

My schlong 5 weeks ago was:
18cm / 7,08” BPEL
15cm / 5,9” NBPEL
13,5cm / 5,3” TEG
14,5cm / 5,7” MEG
16cm / 6,29” BEG
4,8cm / 1,9” width (maybe 0,2cm more at base)

My pumping routine:
4 or 5 days on. 3 or 2 days off. Still testing which is better.
I pump twice per day. First session is right in the morning, 2nd session is around 6-7 hours after first session.
In both sessions I pump for 5 / 5 / 10 minutes.
Started with -4Hg vacuum. Now I am at -5Hg and during the 10 minute rounds I pump 3 times up to -10Hg for only 15 seconds. Then I go back to -5Hg.
I do 10min edging before pumping, then 3min edging between each round and 10min edging after pumping.
My first 4 weeks were without any heat or warm up. For my fifth week I use constant heat during pumping. But still no warm up.

When I started 5 weeks ago, I was packing my tube up to 6,5cm from base on the upper side of my schlong. Today at the end of my fifth week my upper side just hit 11cm mark from base!!!
That is huge progress. In my pumping past I never had this much progress, even with sets that last for hour and same or higher vacuum. In my pumping past I started on the same 6,5cm mark but never been able to go over 7,5cm!
My shaft in the tube is 13,5 - 14cm long and then the glans starting. So I am almost fully packing my tube girth wise and just after five weeks of small volume pumping. My bottom side is little bit behind my upper side, but only by 1 or 1,5cm. If this pace will continue then I think I will completely pack this tube. girth wise, in two more weeks from now (does not include my glans ofcourse).
If only my length would share the same pace and trend as my girth does, but sadly no… I do not see too much of a progress in the tube for my length so far :/ Hopefully that will change when I will fully pack my tube, girth wise.

Now what I really need to watch our for is my urge of doing more, pumping with higher vacuum and for more duration. This urge is really big because I am really hyped up from this huge progress.
Everyday I wonder what if I pumped for few more minutes or at higher vacuum. Where could that lead, what mark could I hit. But I have to resist.
Today I overdid it for the sake of hitting that 11cm mark and I can feel that I have much more fluid build up today than any other day. Actually for the whole five weeks I had almost zero fluid build up.

Now I have kinda bad discoloration on my front half length. Not sure if it is from heating (my heating pad is kinda strong) or just from pumping. I will see if I can heal it over weekend or if one or two more rest days will be needed.
I think I will continue pumping for 3 more weeks to complete 2 months and then I will take one or two weeks decondition break for resting and to be able measure myself outside of pumped up state. So I can see the real progress.

Take care guys!
-FBS

Hello there.
Today I finished my two months, 8 weeks to be exact, of pumping routine.
Now I am taking 1 week decon break. After that I will measure myself to see the real progress that has been made outside of pumped up state.

Some summary:
For the first 6 weeks I have seen nice progress. Packing the tube everyday little bit more. But in the 6th week this trend started to freeze and I could not get anymore expansion with the same time and vacuum level. Could not get past 10cm mark.
7th week passed and I decided that in the last week I will try to increase time and vacuum level.
So in monday and tuesday I used 6Hg instead of 5Hg.
From wednesday to friday I even increased the time from 5 / 5 / 10minutes to 7 / 7 / 13minutes.
This helped me to almost fully pack my tube girth wise. If I did this from start of 7th week I would be surely packing the tube by now regularly.

After decon week I will start with another 2 months of pumping. I want to focus on length but not sure if this routine will be good for that as it seems it works well but only for girth. My length expansion is almost zero in the tube.
So I will probably try to change routine to find what could work for length.
I will buy bigger tube as well. The only option I have is 2.55” diameter which should provide me enough room for moře girth grow and hopefully for length expansion as well.

For some reason everytime I leave the tube now my penis feels dry at the base. But I am sure I use a lot of lubricant. Maybe this friction prevent my penis to expand length wise. And that would be solved with wider tube.

I am very curious about results and I am looking forward to more PE. It is for the first time since I do PE that I see some real progress and not just something in my head that I wish for.

Stay safe guys and I wish you all good progress in your PE journey.

So, today it is the 7th day after my two months of pumping.
I measured and results are.
BPEL: 18 -> 18cm
NBPEL: 15 -> 15cm
TEG: 13,5 -> 14cm (+0,5cm)
MEG: 14,5 -> 14,8cm (+0,3cm)
BEG: 16 -> 16,5cm (+0,5cm)
Width: 4,8 -> 4,8cm

From next week I will start another two or more months of pumping. I will also use wider tube to see if there will be difference in length expansion against the one that I am packing now. Maybe the friction from packing is really blocking those length gains in pump.

I will probably stay at higher volume than I used now. I will not gonna do 5 / 5 / 10 mins two times per day but rather 7 / 7 / 13mins and maybe raise it up to 10 / 10 / 15 mins two times per day and somewhere around -6Hg rather than -5Hg.
And I will maybe do it for more than two months as it seems that difference between pumped up and actual gains is rather big right now. When I was pumped I stayed the whole day between 16 to 15,5cm MEG. That is difference from my normal MEG by 1 - 1,5cm. But actual gains were only 0,3cm MEG. Maybe with longer pumping period the gains will be bigger.

Good monday everyone.
Today I picked up my new cylinder and found out it is damaged so I have to send it back to get new one sadly.
But I still managed to use it for one session. I went directly for 7 / 7 / 11 minutes with 6Hg.
I was surprised with results. This tube is 2.5” diameter while my old one is 2.165” and yet I was able to pack it girtwise a lot.
I’ve got more fluid build up than with smaller tube and what shocked me most is that I’ve actually get less length expansion with this bigger tube.

I was expecting different outcome. More length expansion due to less friction and less girth packing than with smaller cylinder.

I will stick with my original cylinder till my new one come again and then I will have to decide which one I wanna use, since I am looking mainly for length gains rather than girth.

Another update.
After my first 8 weeks of pumping I went for another 8 weeks with different approach to see difference and to look for best possible routine for me.
This time I did not increase time as many of you do, but I increased intensity.
My routine was:
Pumping two times per day. 5 rounds of 5min pumping.
Starting at 12Hg for first 40sec of each round and then reduce vacuum to value that I kept for the rest of that round.
I started at 6Hg and increased it every week. At the end I was pumping at 8Hg.
Due to high discoloration I finished only 5 weeks and now I am taking decon/healing break for 5 weeks. But aside the discoloration I did not had any other complications.
At the end I was able to hit 19,1cm mark in the pump and was packing it girthwise almost all the way up to my glans.

Well today it is 7th day after I stop pumping so here are the measurements.
BPFSL: ??? -> 18,2cm
BPEL: 18 -> 18cm
NBPEL: 15 -> 15,2cm (+0,2cm)
TEG: 14 -> 14cm
MEG: 14,8 -> 15cm (+0,2cm)
BEG: 16,5 -> 17cm (+0,5cm)
Width: 4,8 -> 4,8cm

I wonder why:
1) my girth is getting bigger but my width stay same?
2) the difference between my BPFSL and BPEL is so small?

I have to add that I kept using my old cylinder with 5,5cm / 2,165” width.
It still was not enough to give me any length gains whatsoever… That make me sad.

Well, as I said I will take break for 4 more weeks to heal my discoloration and then I will start PE again. I will have some extra time so I maybe try combine stretching or hanging with pumping. Depends if I’ll save some money for my PMP head that I broke. I would use it as a hanger grip.
That is all for now.