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Mr.F (Progress Report / Log)

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That’s why I think your thread is so interesting. That after all this time, the growth that you had realized and cemented 8 years ago, that tissue has perhaps fully remodeled and is now available for further accommodation.

The other aspect is that there is no “newbie” learning curve for you, you have that knowledge in your pocket.

Okay, so, I woke up and the first thing I did was measure as accurately as I could.

I’ve not really ever tried to get a totally accurate girth measurement as I’ve always been focused on length. I’ve measured just to keep an eye on things but not really with a view to making comparisons on a day to day or week to week basis. From here on out that’s going to be my priority.

These are effectively my starting stats for multi cable-clamp clamping:

My BPEL is 7.75" (I know, that’s a massive jump from what I thought I measured when I resumed the practice about 20 days ago. I think EQ might have been a factor in that, plus I’ve just put myself on a strict low-carb diet that’s potentially reducing my fat-pad quite rapidly.).

My girth measurements, straight out of bed, before any kind of exercise and with the only girth work I’ve done for the last two days being jelqing (no clamping or pumping since November 29th))…

Top of shaft: 5.25"

Mid-Shaft: 5.125"

Base girth: 5.5"

I obtained this base girth measurement by pulling the tape tight to compress both the extra skin where the skin of the penis transitions into that of the scrotum, and to compress two large dorsal veins on either side of the base of the shaft. I believe they’re the external pubic veins (which I previously mistook for the obturator vein in this diagram: https://en.wiki pedia.org/wiki/ … le:Gray1159.png ). I took pains to pull the measuring tape tight enough to compress these veins etc. without pulling so hard as to deform or constrict the tunica.

Had I taken the measurement using a millimetre scale It would probably have caused me to use a finer pressure to obtain the measurements but, with one sixteenth of an inch (which can be judged quite sufficiently by eye) being only 1.5875mm, I’m happy with the accuracy of the imperial scale.

So, those are my starting stats for multi clamp clamping.

I’ll be clamping at the base, and then clamping every half inch up to the point where my mid-shaft begins to widen into the distal top-end. This top end I’ll leave unclamped. Per set I’ll alternate between using two clamps at the base and one clamp at the base, so as to be able to offset the clamps at 0.25" intervals in order to maximise the area of effect the clamps should have. The reasoning for this configuration is to try and even out the radial growth along the length of the shaft, and more specifically, to try and restrict radial growth at the distal end. This reasoning is based on two assumptions:

1. Clamps, having reportedly been shown to increase the girth of the section of the shaft they’re clamped to, should have that effect on my penis (I should reiterate that this is an assumption on my part).

2. Any kind of clamping, even with just a single clamp attached at the base, will cause a faster rate of radial growth at the distal (top end) of the shaft (this is an assumption I actually want to try and get some consensus on from the forum.)

Also, clamping in this way, should also promote longitudinal growth, which I do want but not at the expense of girth.

Should the rate of longitudinal growth exceed the rate of radial growth, I’ll switch to starting each clamping set with a clamp at the distal end of the shaft, below the glans, as this is reported to restrict longitudinal growth. The drawback with this approach is that it reportedly increases the rate of radial growth at the distal end of the penis.

I’ll begin with multi clamp, cable clamp clamping, monitoring growth closely. If radial growth occurs at such a speed as to potentially exceed the limit I’ve set for radial size (6" diameter) I’ll switch to Xenolith’s Tiger Trap to see if it’ll get me a more favourable length to girth growth rate ratio.

I’m going to be switching to an IPR protocol for this exercise, and need to do a little more research focused specifically on IPR protocols for clamping. I hope to be able to configure a routine within the next few days. Once that’s done and I’m ready to begin, I’ll probably switch back to the IPR progress thread I previously started, leaving a link to that thread at the end of this one.

Originally Posted by Buckfever
That’s why I think your thread is so interesting. That after all this time, the growth that you had realized and cemented 8 years ago, that tissue has perhaps fully remodeled and is now available for further accommodation.

The other aspect is that there is no "newbie" learning curve for you, you have that knowledge in your pocket.

Thanks. :)

I was thinking this might be of interest to people for that very reason.

I feel like I’ve got straight back into the groove and it’s all come back to me, the difference being that my penis feels soft and pliant, more flexible and more springy (like a spring (where before it was like a piece of cord hanging off of my body)) and it’s like I can feel the potential for growth. By the time I’d stopped the first time around it felt like a toughened piece of cord that I just used for hanging weights off of. Now it feels alive and responsive and in a lot of ways more delicate.

Also, I found where you got that 7" flaccid length measurement from. It was an error in the post; I got the bone pressed and stretched flaccid measurements conflated and had to ask one of the moderators to alter it for me. Really sorry about that. I must admit I was a bit baffled by it when you commented on it. lol

Sorry about that :)

Originally Posted by Mr. F

I’ll be clamping at the base, and then clamping every half inch up to the point where my mid-shaft begins to widen into the distal top-end. This top end I’ll leave unclamped. Per set I’ll alternate between using two clamps at the base and one clamp at the base, so as to be able to offset the clamps at 0.25” intervals in order to maximise the area of effect the clamps should have. The reasoning for this configuration is to try and even out the radial growth along the length of the shaft, and more specifically, to try and restrict radial growth at the distal end. This reasoning is based on two assumptions:

This got my attention. I will be following your attempts to reshape your unit. I have similar thoughts in my mind for the future use. Only that mine priority will be top end below the glans. At the moment my routines are length oriented main exercises being stretching in various forms.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)


Last edited by Kyrpa : 11-01-2018 at . Reason: typo

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
This got my attention. I will be following your attempts to reshape your unit. I have similar thoughts in my mind for the future use. Only that mine priority will be top end below the glans. At the moment my routines are length oriented main exercises being stretching in various forms.

Cool, :)

It’s my intention to keep the thread updated, so that information should hopefully, eventually, be available.

If you’re thinner at the distal end of the shaft (the top end) then jelqing should help. It tends to create what the forum calls the baseball bat effect, where the penis becomes larger towards the top of the shaft and begins to resemble a baseball bat.

Something that’s been noted with clamping is that it creates more growth in the sections upon which the clamps are placed, so using multiple clamps is theoretically a way to potentially shape a penis.

Having said that, if you’re new to PE then you should be cautious about clamping. It’s generally considered a more advanced exercise and is warned against for newbies.

If you’re around long enough to find success with clamping, then, eventually, you might consider trying out Xenolith’s Tunica Tenderiser (TTr) which is a tool used for a very advance exercise that can focus stress on specific sections of the penis.

To benefit from that requires an understanding of “IPR Protocol” / IPR Theory, which is detailed in Xenolith’s progress thread starting at this post: xenolith - Finding xeno: a penis tale

The problem with that thread however, is that it’s difficult to understand because it’s not very clearly written. Xenolith it seems was a busy man with no time to revise his posts; also I believe I read that English wasn’t his first language, so he’s not the easiest of people to read.

It is worth reading however, as it details the development of IPR Protocol / IPR Theory, but if you’re only just getting started with PE, then you won’t have to worry about that for a while. If you figure out you’re going to stick with PE, you could make a start on it at that time, and take your time picking through it. Getting at least a working understanding of the basic concepts behind IPR Theory will help you a lot, once you’ve got everything you can from the Newbie and intermediate stages of P.E.

:)

“Also, I found where you got that 7” flaccid length measurement from. It was an error in the post; I got the bone pressed and stretched flaccid measurements conflated and had to ask one of the moderators to alter it for me. Really sorry about that. I must admit I was a bit baffled by it when you commented on it. lol”

Just for the record that wasn’t me.


Big cock, tight abs, fit body, strong mind.

Originally Posted by Buckfever
Just for the record that wasn’t me.

Oh crikey, yeah, sorry about that, that was HenrikL.

Neither of you have avatars and I got you mixed up. :/

Sorry about that.

Okay, so, I’ve got some corrections:

Clamping does not cause the distal (top end) of the shaft to grow faster than the rest of the shaft; that’s incorrect (thanks to Titlist for setting me straight on that one).

Also, I misunderstood a couple of Xeno’s posts re. multi clamp cable clamping. It seems he got length gains both with a clamp behind the glans and without. He believed that not having a clamp behind the glans could detract from radial growth along the shaft, due to the forces expressing themselves at the glans via the tips of the corpora cavernosa. He recommended applying a clamp behind the glans to confine the stresses to the tunica albuginea, but recommended performing sets without the distal clamp both to develop the tips of the corpora cavernosa and for development of the glans.

So, taking both of these corrections into consideration is going to affect my clamping technique in the following way:

I’ll basically be clamping all the way up the shaft to behind the glans, at 0.5" intervals. I’ll offset the clamps by 0.25" every other set to create a wider area of effect. I’ll begin at the base, then apply the clamp behind the glans followed by the remaining clamps one at a time, proceeding from the base to the distal end.

This means, that hopefully, assuming things grow proportionally, that I’ll get to keep my hourglass shape,

My routine:

4 Micro-IPR cycles of 1 day on and 3 days off, for a Macro-I phase totalling 13 days, with the 13th day containing the last Micro-I phase of that Macro-I cycle. The 14th day will be the first day of a 4 week Macro-P phase, after which I’ll take a three month break for Macro-R.

Focus will be solely on girth (although some ligament stretching will be unavoidable due to the form of exercise I’ll be using).

The exercises I’m going to be using are multi clamp, cable clamping, and a much less intensive form of PEFF pumping utilising, at first, a standard hand pump, followed then by a Jabsco Little Pal which I’ve read should get me about 90% of the way to where a single stage electric pump would have taken me.

Should the girth to length, gain ratio from these exercises be 1:1, I would have exceeded my set length limit by 0.25" by the time I hit a diametrical 6". Should the girth to length ratio from these exercises be 2:1 (respectively) then I’ll achieve both my girth and length goals simultaneously.

Should it ultimately turn out that I need extra length, I’ll resume stretching. My fear is that I’m going to gain length much faster than girth. If that turns out to be the case I may abandon pumping altogether and do nothing but girth exercises.

My routine will be:

4 sets of multi clamp clamping, each followed by 4 minutes of dynamic pumping, cycling up to the highest pressure I can handle before releasing.

My hope is that I’ll have uninterrupted time to perform these exercise starting on Saturday the 3rd of November.

That would make my four Micro-I phases:

3rd, 7th, 11th & 15th of November.

My Macro-P phase will then span from the 16th of November to the 14th December, at which point I’ll begin my three month Macro-R phase.

My second Macro-I phase will commence on the 14th of march.

Looking at this routine, I can’t imagine it’s going to work, even having done all of the reading…but I’m going to give it a try anyway. Should it not work, next time around I’ll integrate the Tiger Trap and Tunica Tenderizer.

I’ll be continuing my progress report here: Mr.F (IPR Protocol Progress Report Thread)


Last edited by Mr. F : 11-01-2018 at .
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