Rate my routine, drugs & supps.

I am not a doctor so cant tell you a legit advice on these drugs. But i will say this:
How long you have been doing PE? Are you “conditioned”?

I would switch from bathmate to a regular pump with a gauge. If doing any manual exercises or squeezes or jelqs, throw them before pumping sesh. Heat nonstop.
ADS is always good.

I know why you are going about with your “supps”. They certainly wont hurt when it comes to “gains” at the gym and PE. Years ago i took MK677 and i understand this compound. You need to realize that increased IGF1 from taking the MK is good and bad. If you have a tumor, the higher amount of IGF1 in your body will only speed up the growth of that tumor/cancer.

If you are taking B5 i think you may as well do the whole Vit B complex.
Be careful with too much of Vit A, it might be too toxic at large doses. Make sure its retinol and not the beta carotene. Btw a few ounces of beef liver will provide Vit A in a 1000s % plus lots of B Vits and B5.
Add to this a small portion of a beet root daily, it increases NO and pumps at the gym.
Collagen protein wont hurt but eating meat skin from chicken and other meats will help with collagen building aminoacids like glycine, proline and lysine (if i remember correctly).
Keep us posted and good luck!

Updated I am going to be using a DHT pro hormone with dsmo topically on my dick to see if this encourages growth, there was a massive thread on it here a while back where there were reports of gains from it, it should arrive in the next couple of days so I will log results here my current measurements are BPEL 5.7 in

And EG 5.0 in , This is measured over 36hrs after pumping so it should be pretty accurate and not distorted with pumped stats.

if it works im definitely buying some. goodluck and ill be rooting for you and following your post

No testosterone inducing supplements will ever work orally or topically…that’s one of those theoretical things that does not play out in real, clinical results. I’ve been doing testosterone supplementation for over 5 years now. You either need to inject yourself with cypionate, use subdermal pellets, or transdermal patches…and you don’t want to be doing those on your own without professional follow-up and labs. Testosterone won’t make your penis grow at all either. The only time it might help is if you had low-T during puberty and then supplemented at that time. Once you’ve missed that window of growth, you’re done. All of these PE exercises and routines are based on breakdown of tissue, and hopefully new growth. Testosterone doesn’t help with that…maybe with muscle mass, but not penile tissues. Would true growth hormone work? Maybe, but it would only help accelerate tissue repair, not new growth…and it would have to be real GH, not a supplement that supposedly makes your body produce more of it. Really, all of those supplements are just going to make expensive urine, unless you’re severely deficient in your diet.

Thanks man there are a few logs of people using dht pro hormones topically/transdermal on the penis and making reports of gains, I sourced it locally so it should be delivered tomorrow hopefully, I am thinking of using a lower dose but running it a bit longer than what the other reports are running so 6 weeks on I’ll log when I get it, a couple of days after then once a week after that with measurements before I use the pump, given I am doing other things if there is any immediate gains most likely they can be attributed to the dht, I am going to be injecting ifg1 either lr3 or des in the fat pad , however I will be holding off for a few weeks to see how the dht goes.

The pro hormone is a dht one, and its not been taken orally, I have run test e in the past and I am not claiming any penis gains from that but dht if the hormone that grows the penis , there are multiple reports of this working and I am looking at trying it, GH is for hyperplasia it creates new fibers so long term use would grow your penis

Update:::
It has arrived I have applied it with dsmo to the penis.

Will update in a couple of days any changes.

So unfortunately it was not the raw ingredients in a capsule rather in a pill so there are other ingredients which is a hassle but I am crushing them up and mixing with dsmo I need it to be very fine powder which is hard but hopefully I can source just the powder in capsules but it’s getting hard to find .. So far no changes but it’s only been a few days

It’s definitely pointless to respond to a poster with your moniker about ditching chemical PE. There have been many why have tried go a similar route with mixed results at best, at least from what I’ve seen.

Also, it’s very difficult to objectively parse legitimate medicinal effects from a positive mental attitude ( in my honest opinion, the only way to gain).

It’s all well and good doing your bread and butter stretches and hand routines and what I have found from watching is everyone that’s part of the “hard work camp” meaning they ramble on about doing manual Routines then claim they are the only ones doing hard work and everyone is just trying to get out of doing it, where as people implementing equipment + supplements + drugs + experimental stuff are certainly doing hard work if not more just the “hard work camp” either can not afford or to cheap to spend the money and they all wind up with average gains and they quickly hit a limit, if you or anyone don’t want to spend a cent on this stuff that’s fine but the highest end of gains will come from combining optimal protocols with optimal routines, I don’t have years to spend getting a big dick and chicks these days have usually taken a few massive cocks and even average is small to them and they have enough guys to only stay with the well hung ones so unless you want some fat chick that has no other options which I don’t I am going to to what I can to make the most gains as quickly as possible

Here, let me help you out. I am giving you a large amount of periods. Periods are also called full stops. They are used to designate the end of one sentence and precede the start of another sentence. Start using them in your posts.

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Look up paragraph breaks and start using them, too.

Wow. Good luck.

Have noticed one possible side effect however I am just assuming it’s related but a large pimple is forming in the fat pad it’s a bit sore, this is a steroid like side effect so I am assuming it’s related to using the pro hormone topically.

Any updates?