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Originally Posted by Guittarman03
Thanks.

I’m using the VacHanger3 by autoextender.com. I’ll elaborate more with my exact setup in a separate post, but I use the deep cylinder, with water, and the sealing cone rather than a sealing sleeve.

I’m curious about your hanger setup too; I have one of the vac systems by Autoextender too, but I’m not sure it’s the same as what you described.

Thanks for the tip on the ultrasound heater ; I just ordered one myself.

-Horseman-


BPEL 6-3/4" MEG 5-1/4" on 8-2021. Goal: 7-3/4" to 8"BPEL x 5-1/2" MEG

5'-11" and 190# and working back down to decent ab definition. I expect this around 178#.

As this is a progress thread, I think now is a good time to post my spreadsheet, and summarize where I’m at. I’ve gone 18 days straight (no breaks), two hanging sessions per day of 1.5 - 2 hours each, with 3-4kg. I use 15 minutes of ultrasound during each session, apart from 3 instances where I didn’t use the US for the 2nd session. Here’s my stats:

Morning BPEL: From 16.5cm to 17.2cm == +7mm
Morning BPFSL: From 18.0cm to 18.9cm == +9mm
Post Session BPFSL: From 18.2cm to 19.2cm == +10mm

I must say that I am *really* stoked for this progress! Given that I’ve never put on any length before.

At the same time, I experienced a signal that I need at least a short break. I began this routine knowing that I was really going for quick gains, with some potential risks of doing 2x ultrasound per day, and that I would be careful and listen to my body. About a week in, I began to occasionally experience a light burning sensation, which I thought was skin level. Later I determined that it was in the tunica / septum tissues instead. When the frequency and intensity increased, it was clear that the rapid expansion of those tissues, probably needs a break for recovery and proliferation.

So I took yesterday and today completely off from any PE, and I’m going to try again tomorrow. If I feel no burning sensation, then I’ll continue with my routine as before. If I do feel any burning, I will terminate the session, and wait another 2 days.

NOTES ABOUT THE SPREADSHEET
** Be sure to click on the comments of the very top row, as it explains in detail what each column represents**

Recording high quality data is easier when you have convenient tools, and you categorize things in a detailed way. This also makes manipulation of the data for analysis much easier. I have some if/then equations so that cells without data appear blank instead of looking wonky (like #NAN errors and such), so be careful about blank cells. It might actually contain an equation that’s just returning blank due to missing data.

SUMMARY TAB: You’ll notice the morning BPEL and BPFSL, as well as post-session max BPFSL for the day (usually occurs after 2nd session). I noticed that any one of these 3 measurements might temporarily stall, producing a bit of a jagged chart. So I also included a column for summing all three, and you can see that the progress line is much smoother. This is nice, because you can easily visually verify that you’re making some kind of progress on most days.

DETAILED TAB: Basic stuff like date, which session, what kind of heat application, weight.
- Columns E through H represent timing of each “set”. Column G is the HOURS:MINUTES of the start/stop (the set); and Column H is the running total for each session.
- Columns I through M represent me figuring out how to *accurately* record strain during each set, and total session .. “strain.” (it’s not synonymous with your actual pre/post session strain). This deserves its own separate post. But essentially I’m recording from the pubic bone to the hanger at start/stop; being careful to not change my seated position, or distance from the desk (or record if I do).
- Column L is particularly tricky. There is a formula there *BUT YOU CAN’t ONLY RELY ON IT*. Sometimes you need to hand-jam values if you do something wonky (more to come later in a separate post).
- The other columns are measurement stuff and notes. Observe that the FSL and BPEL could each be morning, or post-session. That is determined (obviously) by the date/time.
- I like to visually separate stuff by colors and lines. Deep yellow with a line is a new day. Pale yellow is intra-day, but new sessions. Green is total session time under tension. Red highlights are cautionary.

Feel free to use this for your own tracking purposes. It’s a bit raw and not super polished, but it’s also solid for its usecase. I saved it in the LibreOffice format (.ods), and also a copy in .xlsx in case those of you using spyware proprietary operating systems and software can’t open the open-source format.

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Thanks for the excel file, I just started my PE journey and was capturing my routine in a very basic excel file. Good luck and happy gains!

Howdy, it’s been awhile since I’ve posted anything, so it’s time for an update.

My last post was Sept 5th. At that time I had gone from BPEL of 16.5cm on Aug 19th, to 17.2cm on Sep 5. I continued doing my same routine until Sep 11th, where I measured 17.5 cm. So 1.0cm in 4 weeks was pretty amazing.

After Sep 11th, well, life got in the way which I anticipated was going to happen; which was another factor in trying to push my routines so hard at 2x per day.

I have since started again, since Oct 18th, where I still measured at 17.5cm! A month later and those gains are permanent. This go around, I’m being considerably lazier, as I still have quite a few things going on. I’m mostly just getting 1 session per day, and with about 1 day off every week.

I am also measuring way less often. I basically just plan to measure BPEL in the morning, maybe once per week. It is tedious taking BPFSL and BPEL every morning, then post session, 2x per day. Since I know this works, and I know what’s working for me, the only measurements I take are during session, just to judge when the pre-stretch is done, and it’s time for the US. I am documenting all of that pretty meticulously still, since it’s not much extra work sitting at my desk.

I’m going to try to document the specific parts of my setup, and not just leave yall hanging, as I think it’s pretty solid. Okay, that’s all for now!

QQ — when hanging and using US, do you lay your unit across your leg to give the backing flesh to absorb the US and eliminate reflection? You mentioned an over the shoulder position, does this mean the unit is basically laying against your belly button more or less and using US on the underside of the unit?

Thanks. I bought one of the machines you linked and trying to get my head around how to heat and pull the thing at the same time. I’m reading Kyrpa’s thread also but the words aren’t making a good diagram in my head.

Thanks in advance again,
Mike

‎ Well, I tried to give it another go back in September, but I just couldn’t do it, too busy. But luckily I’ve got anoteher 5 weeks in front of me to try again. Same style, 2x per day, 10-15 minutes US.

I started a couple days ago, but I’m not getting as much strain as I would’ve hoped for. I’m pretty sure it’s because this 3Mhz device from dupuytrens-contracture is putting out less than 1 W/cm transudcer head power density. I can just tell that I need a more powerful machine and that I’m not getting good heating.

So I’m looking for a quality machine, having a hard time finding machines that list their specs explicitly. I’m seeing some from India on amazon, but I’m hesitant to buy anything manufactured in India. I’ll try and post updates as I get them.

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