Zs Newbie Journey

It’s been awhile. I had stopped awhile back because I had a weird feeling - I may have done something while pumping or just in general been sore from something unrelated. Either way I didn’t have a really good way to use the Bathmate and ultimately stopped my overall routine. I think it made a small part of my shaft darker (possible injury?) This has never gone away.

I’m starting over again, just doing a simpler version of newbie routine (avoiding jelqs, which I understand are a major part of PE I know). Just focusing on heat + manual stretch + ADS.

I’ve gotten wiser to how to measure properly so here is actually some more updated numbers:

FG: 4.25”
FL: 3.75”
EG: 4.75”
EL: 6.25”
BPEL: 6.75”
*edit* flaccid length is not stretched.

I think that first post last year I was really shrunken flaccid that day as I’ve never seen it that retracted in quite some time. I think I’m longer slightly due to either normal variation, EQ, weight loss, or all 3.

I started back up a few days ago and just the application of wet heat + manual stretches has already seen major gains in flaccid hang throughout the day. I honestly think the biggest impact is the wet heat currently. I notice w/o heat I feel the rope/tire steel cord effect but w/ heat that seems to go away or diminish significantly. I’m still not sure of which is which on that.

Heat + Manual stretches and the following has occurred after just 1 week:
1) EQ way up. WAY up. I feel bigger just from EQ alone (and probably am very slightly or at my natural max).
2) Mild general soreness at base ligs and at tip/head

I also measured LOT. My LOT is between 10-11, which if I understand Bib’s Lot Theory is a good thing for potential gains. This got me really excited if that turns out to be effective.

I’m still puzzled as studies show some benefits w/ traction but forum says can cause major injuries and not effective. I’m not sure the “best” technique but for now am sticking to heat + manual stretches and potentially ADS (Maybe Phallosan forte).

Post heat+manual stretches for a week (nothing permanent yet but still impressed):
FL: 4.5” - 5.0” (+0.75” to +1.25”)
FG: 4.5” (+0.25”)
*edit* flaccid length is not stretched.

Crossing-fingers that I can do this safely and get improvements.

Phallosan Forte came in.. More complicated than expected and a pain to put on. Tried it out for about an hour and then let it rest. I’ll read forums for guidance on the device.

I’m a newbie as well. I purchased a traction extender just to get used to how to set it up. It is a bit tricky at first but the threads will help you understand how it works. I put mine back on the shelf for now and am working other avenues and do not want to over do it.

I suppose the traction extender is still easier than the old method of tying a string to your cock and the other end to a horse, 🤪.

Make sure you read the thread on Physiological Indicators (PIs). This has helped prevent damage and slow gains for me and many others.

Good Luck

Read the PI details, very helpful thanks!

Still having trouble with Phallosan Forte.. I don’t know how people slip on and off. If I use the larger bell, I can get on, but then eventually it slips, if I use Medium Bell, I have a hard time getting it in there because the wrapper around it makes it narrower.

Welcome. Looks like a generally good plan. Flaccid length is easiest to gain—to a point. Then it starts getting harder or stalls altogether. But just persevere.

Continuing w/ 2 days on, 1 days off: Warming + manual stretch.

After heat+manual stretch the flaccid is huge (relatively speaking as I’m average otherwise). Looking forward to one day when this is the normal..

Post stretch: FL: 5.2”

Continuing with routine. Getting better with ADS by combining with heating pad. Getting easier to stretch with less discomfort. Trying to understand anatomy better to watch for PI.

Heating pad + manual stretches (easier).

FL seems to be sticking around for hours after the stretch.
Immediately after, FL is 5.0”
4 Hours after stretch tonight, still 4.5” FL

If keeps up for following morning, I may update my FL stats.