Jelqing, please beware

I’m not writing this for me… I’m writing this for people who tend to act before they think like myself. I’m sure you’ve read that jelqing can cause permanent erectile dysfunction all over the web, but no one seems to elaborate on how and why this happens, so we don’t always take it seriously. At least I didn’t… I’m sure it has it’s benefits if you’re in luck and if done properly but this thread isn’t about that. Jelqing can lead to fibrosis in the corpus cavernosum. A healthy corpus cavernosum swells up with blood during an erection and pushes up against the tunica albuginea to create that rock hard erection. When healthy corpus cavernosum tissue is repetitively damaged through jelqing, the healthy tissue turns into fibrosis that can’t fill with blood and swell into a proper erection. Fibrosis is like scar tissue, it’s hard and stubborn and is not going to budge. Erectile function can be boiled down to two mechanisms: blood in and blood out. Blood in refers to the penis filling up with blood through psychological or manual stimulation. Blood out refers to the entrapment of blood in the penis once an erection is achieved, leaving you with a long lasting erection. Now back to jelqing and fibrosis… Since fibrosis doesn’t allow the corpus cavernosum tissue to swell up with blood properly, the veins responsible for keeping the blood engorged in the penis cannot be squeazed enough to shut off the flow of blood, so it leaks the blood immediately out of the penis through these opened veins. In other words whatever blood comes in will be immediately leaked out. This is called venous leakage. There is no way of reversing corpus cavernosum fibrosis. So you are permanently left with a penis that can’t stay hard. It’s like trying to fill up a bucket with water that has a whole in it… Good luck with that… There isn’t much you can do about this. Game Over. If one day the medical community finds a way to reverse fibrosis you might be in luck, but it’s seems that day is far away. Now your left with permanent impotence and a penis implant isn’t an unreasonable option. What a fuckin nightmare… Jelqing please beware.

PS, I now have a venous leak…

This is something your physician told you? Was there an MRI done to confirm the diagnosis? Cause you know just getting older can create similar symptoms. Well, not fibrosis but the general hardening of pliable tissues just happens as we get older.

I’m not disputing you and it saddens me that you have this condition, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. I’m just asking if you were given confirmation that jelqing was the cause or a contributing factor.

Hey, so far all my symptoms are of venous leak. It happened after Jelqing for a few months. First symptom was lack of morning wood, then overall erectile dysfunction. I wish I new about this website before hand because there is a wealth of knowledge on safety and efficacy of techniques here. Although still if i had to go back i would’ve stuck to pumping and traction therapy. These are the only methods used and recommended in Urology. Pumping for penile vascular health and traction for peyronies disease. I’ve been referred to a urologist by my family doctor, I will inform you when i get a diagnosis and the potential culprit.

When you’re self diagnosing, it’s worth considering the mind as an option. It might not be that but often it is.

I don’t quite understand what you mean by "the mind as an option", like psychogenic ED? Not sure, because before this, my morning wood was so strong i would have an extremely hard time aiming my dick downwards enough for a morning piss. From what i understand psychogenic ED still grants you with morning wood. It might be venous leak, it might not, maybe nerve related… Anyhow I hope my urologist has good news after running some imaging tests… Who knows maybe i will be granted a second chance, sometimes life goes easy on you…

memento is right. Sometimes I lose an erection when it’s just me jacking off cause a thought creeps into my head unintentionally. And if it helps, some days I wake up with a raging hard on other days I don’t. I think you might be overthinking this. Dunno how aggressively you were milking during your months-long jelqing sessions, but to be blunt; something like developing fibrous tissues takes a lot longer than that to appear. There are men here who’ve been milking for decades.

I don’t know how old you are, I’m in my mid 40s and I can tell you that stuff down side changes when you get older. What you described seems like what (just about) every man goes through at some point.

I’m not making light of what you’re dealing with, I’m sure it’s very unsettling. But just thinking about the possibility that you’ve caused permanent damage to your weiner may also be a cause. Like when a pitcher has a few bad games and then he really starts to suck cause he has it in his head he’s going to throw poorly.

At least give yourself a little room to take a step back until you see the urologist.

I hope you’re right. I know i overthink things and probably scare the shit out of myself doing so. I jeqled for a few years, started having issues at 30, i’m now 33. I just get this urge to research with hopes of finding solutions for something that fits my symptoms… And i also think waiting to see the urologist is best for my own mental health.. thanks

Absolutely, rather than searching for reasons, knowing what’s going on is much better.

What I meant is that this forum has been around a long time and people complain of injury then if they go to a urologist, 90% of the time (plucking a figure out of the air) the urologist tells them nothing is physically wrong. The mind is a powerful thing, it can definately stop morning wood.

if you absolute lose the erection when you stand up i could be a real symptom of venous leak, the disappearance of morning woods means "nothing" because i could be caused for several factors, not only venous leak.

I lost morning wood due to extres. I went through the same thing as you. And now I have improved a lot and if I sleep well, I always sleep like rock. The day I sleep badly there is no wood. My friend, how would it be to lose an erection when standing up?

What do you mean by "extres"? I lose my erections whether i’m standing or sitting. I was reading about sympathetic and parasympathetic mind states. Sympathetic is the fight or flight mode generated by anxiety and from what i understand parasympathetic is your comfortable and opened relaxed state with no anxiety. Correct me if I’m wrong, erections are only possible in the parasympathetic state. Maybe I’m caught in an sympathetic mind frame that transfers over into my sleep, even though sleeping is supposed to shift you into a parasympathetic mind. The mind is a powerful thing and maybe my brain connections are cemented in sympathetic mode. I’m going to get checked for fibrosis/venous leak and nerve damage, if all is clear i’m going to try sex therapy. Who knows maybe there’s something there… PE can make you overly fixated on your penis’s performance, hopefully that’s all i got working against me.

I think he meant stress. But yeah, if you’re under stress your head can do all kinds of unwanted things. When you’re in fight/flight mode, you can’t sustain an erection cause the primitive part of your brain is running from a pack of wolves.

Relax. At your young age, like memento said; +/- 90% of the time there’s nothing structurally wrong.

Ok yea thanks SharkBait. It will take a while for me to see a urologist, I have a referral but In Canada health care is free but wait times are loooong. Either way thanks for the help, been calming my nerves… Seriously though this place is valuable, been scrolling through posts. No one should start Penis enlargement/enhancement before coming here cuz its like wearing a blind fold walking through traffic… I’ll keep you posted.

I am with you totally. I have been in a similar situation for many years. Good luck and I hope you keep informing us.

Yeah Tim, you betcha. We’re all in this together, man. Just try to stay on the positive side of the tracks.

Here’s a couple words I don’t share often about health stuff. I have MS, early stages so I have my ups and downs (if you get my meaning) and life can sometimes be, what’s the word I’m looking for? Deflating, yup; that’s it. But even with this hot mess I gotta deal with I still get the same raging hard ons that someone my age would expect. And generally when I don’t it’s not cause there’s some sort of damage I’ve done to myself or even cause my immune system thinks my brain is a virus, it’s cause I’m overtaxed thinking about why at that particular time I can’t get a boner. Couple hours later, mowing the lawn, taking a shower, talking to my brother on the phone … whatever, and dang—where’d that come from?

My point is don’t fuss over this. You’re really young and thinking that you’ve permanently injured yourself is wildly unlikely, especially from jelqing.

And by the way, getting appointments to see a physician here in America is also loooooong. And expensive.