MustBeDreaming,
I normally try not to take a defensive posture about matters like this as I do not consider it my responsibility what others do to and with their units. However, I feel compelled to shed light on your contention that you received bad advice at MoS when you first complained of numbness. It is quite possible that you did indeed receive questionable council somewhere, from someone, but if this is true that advice took precedence over the undiluted message of caution expressed in the following exchange between you and I:
From MoS Forums:
02-03-04, 02:48 AM - posted by MustBeDreaming
>Ok, some of you may know I’ve been PEing for 3 years, this last year with the most gains. I’ve done some pretty intense stretches before and made my head numb which went away 3 days later. I’ve also been using the penimaster and had no problems as well as gains from it.
Tonight I made my first hanger, the Captains Wench. I used a 5lb weight and hang downwards for 15 minutes, I felt a constaint burn at the top of the base the whole time. I took a ten minute break and did 10 minutes with a 5lb weight hanging straight fowards. I felt a constant burn this time in the middle of my tunica. Wow, it did feel good and there wasn’t any pain.
So is the constant burn a good thing? ( I know near the head is not of course which didn’t happen)
After wards my head is a numb, I can feel just fine, it never got cold or dark during hanging, should I wait a few days before I hang again or is light numbness normal? ( I’m also a little swollen at the base which it nothing new)
Thanks.<
02-04-04, 04:37 PM - posted by CaptnHook
>MBD,
I’m confused when you say “After wards my head is a numb, I can feel just fine”
Which is it: Numb or fine?
I will say that judging from your earlier experiences of becoming numb via manual stretches that it appears you may be going at it too hard (hanging and manuals). The fact that you have no discoloration or coldness of your glans doesn’t indicate a circulation problem.
Here is my opinion on how to deal with this:
If I were you I would not hang - not with your home made Wench or any other device. I would move on to a different PE technique all together. Loosing feeling in your glans is just about the worst thing that can happen to a man. With hanging, the risk of this is greatly increased. Do not hang.
Any gains simply aren’t worth the risk.
Good luck and stay safe
—Cap<
02-04-04, 11:42 PM - posted by MustBeDreaming
>Thanks Captain, I really appreciate the advice. I’m less numb now and a little sore at the tip of my head. I was worried about it and thought to myself that this isn’t worth it. So I am not going to hang again. Thanks again.
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You are understandably upset and dealing with a high level of stress due to your injury. It is not my intention to add to that - my only wish is for you to get well, and I have faith that you will - but I cannot sit by and watch as innuendo is put forth as fact. Beyond ignoring sound advice you have insinuated blame for your injury on the Captns Wench, and gone as far as saying “It seems all the numbness posts have been caused mainly by the wench” but a search on numbness here at TP will reveal myriad causes for this type of injury, a couple of them involving the Wench, some involving other devices, others involving manual techniques.
Thunder has suggested people “compare notes on what may be done to avoid this in the future” which is of course a great idea. But long before any consensus is reached I can state with total confidence that injuries do not happen by themselves and certainly not because of any given device or technique. They happen because people ignore good advice, warning signs, and pursue their gains too aggressively or with a casual concern for the incredible amount of personal responsibility required when engaging in NPE.
If there is indeed a post you can refer me to where someone urged you to hang and ignore numbness I would be very interested in seeing it. That is just about the most idiotic advice I have ever heard offered and completely flies in the face of everything anyone of any intelligence or PE knowledge would ever suggest.
My objective here is not to defend myself or the Wench - in fact, from the very beginning I have made clear that I do not encourage anyone to make use of the device. That is your own call. All I seek to do is keep the record straight, and hopefully help emphasise the need for everyone engaging in NPE to always keep at the forefront of their mind that they and they alone are responsible for the health and well-being of their unit.
I wish both you and Phil a speedy recovery
-Cap