Andro

Now, Andro is illegal in Canada, but I went to the good old US on the past long weekend. I picked up some TwinLab Andro Nitrate Fuel at GNC just because I could, but now I’m hesitant to take it after the big speech the dude at the store gave me. If I decide not to use it, I’m sure that I could sll this contraband to someone at my gym, but I was wondering if anyone had any advice or feedback on this particular product.

PS, not for PE purposes.

Interesting that you went south of the border to get Andro while we go south of the border to get the real stuff. Just kindof funny.

First I should say that Twinlab is likely the least effective brand of Andro you could buy. I like some of thier products but Andro just isn’t thier “thing”. I’ll spare you the biased details.

Andro will boost your body’s testosterone-making skills for a temporary amount of time. The problems that come from this are few but important. First, your body will naturally want to balance the extra testosterone with extra estrogen. Some people react to it more than others, with “bitch tits” being at the high end and no noticable side effects on the low end of the spectrum. Second, you will temorarily deplete your body’s ability to make testosterone. It will come back, but there will be about two weeks after going off this stuff where your strength is down and you have almost no interest in sex. Not to mention the fact that it is illegal in Canada. Not being the most effective supplement around, you really should consider that in the whole cost/benefit ratio.

I would also not reccomend Andro to anyone under 25 (most would say 30 or older) unless you have absolutely reached a point in your training where nothing else will produce results. This shouldn’t occur within the first three to four years of nonstop, intense training.

People have found ways to curb these negative effects, though. To minimize the estrogen-producing side effects, some people have taken an estrogen blocker (none come to mind, sorry) and avoided soy since it has a reputation for producing estrogen. It is also reccomended that you “cycle in” the Andro by taking 1/3 of your daily dose the first day, 2/3 the second and the full dose the third (this would be followed by a similar “cycling out” at the end). People have also reccomended taking a full cycle ofZMA immediately after the cycle of Andro. I’m not sure exactly why this works for people I just know that it does. My ZMA knowledge is about nill. As far as the illegality of the product in your Country. Well, you should just consider how likely it is that you would get caught and the consequences if you do.

My inclination is to say to toss it away. But there are certainly worse things to do to yourself if you do take it.

>Interesting that you went south of the border to get Andro while we go south of the border to get the real stuff. Just kindof funny.<

Makes you wonder if everything is legal at the South Pole.

>some people have taken an estrogen blocker (none come to mind, sorry) and avoided soy since it has a reputation for producing estrogen.<

Actually, soy can be good in low to moderate amounts, especially in a situation like this, because it acts as a very weak estrogen. Soy’s goodies can help prevent real estrogen from working its glory on your tits. I sure wouldn’t count on it to prevent gyno. You could use an anti-estrogen (such as tamoxifen, aka Nolvadex) or an anti-aromatase such as Arimidex. They are only by prescription. Well, supposed to be, I should say ;)

On the legal side for estrogen management, there is DIM or 6-oxo. Both are kind of pricey, running about $30 a bottle. DIM may or may not help. I don’t know much about 6-oxo. Neither will be as effective as drugs.

I’ve been reading several bodybuilding forums lately and was surprised how many guys have reported getting gynecomastia from using pro-hormones.

Personally, I wouldn’t use them.

hobby I have tried to contact the south pole government to find out it every

thing is legal there but have had no luck . If they ignore me for much longer

I plan on setting up my own government there

Well I live in Australia which is closer than most of you guys are going to get to the South Pole. Prohormones are illegal here, so too steroids. Damn! :)

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The theory holds true.

And Ubu, I am thinking of just chucking the stuff. I tried it last Monday, and consequently I cut myself shaving, and it didn’t stop bleeding for hours. I have heard that products like this prevent your blood from clotting, and this was ridiculous, I had to sarifice a trip to the gym and everything and it was just a knick. As for chances of getting caught, well since I’ve already gotten past the border, there would literally be no chance. But alas, I think I will chuck it. Too bad though, the shit was pretty expensive.

Whether you decide to sell it to someone or not is really a matter of your own morality.

Just another option. A rather tasteless one.