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Closing down all the generic drug web sites/and finding open sites for generic drugs

Originally Posted by chromexskull
I have had pretty good luck with the Tadalafil from them and Grindstone Labs. I have ordered from Maxim twice now and my first order the bottle had a good amount of the ingredient settled at the bottom and worked well. My 2nd order I did the buy 2 get 1 free and there is WAY less of the ingredient settled at the bottom and its a different batch#. I emailed and they explained sometimes it can mix in more and not have as much settle, I guess it makes sense but I am still questioning it since my previous order had way more and so did my order from Grindstone Labs plus they would get way more cloudy and foamy when shook and this one not as much. I am big on consistency so not sure who my next order will be with, there are not many reviews for Grindstone but my one order was good, Maxim has a lot more reviews and most are good but of course not all. Maxim has better sales too but well see.

Is it normal for the bottles to have different amounts settle at the bottom? I am definitely questioning if the one I am currently using has enough of the active ingredient. I have a bottle from Grindstone still from about a year ago which I assume is still good, I believe the shelf life is a couple years on these liquids so maybe ill compare the two and see if I notice a difference.


I’ll tell ya what, I thought why not stick with the research sites until evo got my order right. I don’t think I’m gonna screw around with them anymore. I haven’t tried the generic cialis yet but I plan on ordering after the new year, I’m also waiting on any of the other long time members to report back on their experience with the generic cialis from evo. The generic viagra is 100% real, I had the stuffed nose, flushed face and more importantly a hard cock! So I’m thinking no more research guys for me.

Dave, you should try them first instead of being critical without knowing their product. I never had a problem with quality of their generics they have brand there also if you are not sure about using generic.

Kingscountry, if all the stuff that settles is tadalafil, and not some filler, then I think the amount that settles is a direct indicator of how much real stuff you’re getting. I think the suggestion that some of it is dissolved is pure BS. Tadalafil is virtually insoluble in water and ethanol.

I’ve been using Grindstone, and it seems to me that I’m getting more settling to the bottom than with other sources. And it does seem to work well. So I’m going to stick with them until that changes or I notice that it’s not working well.

I’ve said this before, but I also think that 6 mg a day of boron helps.

Originally Posted by ChuckR
Kingscountry, if all the stuff that settles is tadalafil, and not some filler, then I think the amount that settles is a direct indicator of how much real stuff you’re getting. I think the suggestion that some of it is dissolved is pure BS. Tadalafil is virtually insoluble in water and ethanol.

I’ve been using Grindstone, and it seems to me that I’m getting more settling to the bottom than with other sources. And it does seem to work well. So I’m going to stick with them until that changes or I notice that it’s not working well.

I’ve said this before, but I also think that 6 mg a day of boron helps.

Yeah definitely questioning there response with the tadalafil mixing more with certain bottles and not settling as much. My first batch from Maxim and the couple bottles from grindstone had a ton at the bottom and his newest order barely has any. Seems to be working but I am taking a couple other things to. I have read mostly positive about Maxim so I won’t give up on them just yet and see how these couple bottles go…. funny u mention 6mg of Boron because I have been doing that exact dose the last couple months every day and also 5 days on 2 off 80mg Tongkat Ali extract, 50mg DHEA.

Originally Posted by ChuckR
Kingscountry, if all the stuff that settles is tadalafil, and not some filler, then I think the amount that settles is a direct indicator of how much real stuff you’re getting. I think the suggestion that some of it is dissolved is pure BS. Tadalafil is virtually insoluble in water and ethanol.

I’ve been using Grindstone, and it seems to me that I’m getting more settling to the bottom than with other sources. And it does seem to work well. So I’m going to stick with them until that changes or I notice that it’s not working well.

I’ve said this before, but I also think that 6 mg a day of boron helps.


Don’t get me wrong Chuck I’ve had good luck with research chems but the unknown and as everyone says about the settling on the bottom, meaning how much are we actually taking, questions why I should go that route anymore after having found a new source of real pills. I’ve had good luck with the liquids but I’ve also had some duds, I’ve found the liquids work really well when I first open them, then as time goes on there less effective. Which tells me I’m getting more of the sediment in the beginning then I am towards the end. Last night was a good example, I still have the cialis viagra combo I accidentally ordered. I took a 1/2 an ml early then another 1/2 later with no effects now when I first opened that bottle I’d have been walking around hard all day.

Originally Posted by gearzz
Dave, you should try them first instead of being critical without knowing their product. I never had a problem with quality of their generics they have brand there also if you are not sure about using generic.

The thing that puts evopharmacy over the top for me is:

1. It’s identical to what you’d get if prescribed from a USA based doctor. Why take a risk on something from Asia which might get seized but is from a country where it’s much less quality control - as a bonus, I know I’m buying from a real pharmacy. Why risk buying from someone who is not?

2. It’s cheap enough for me.
3. Quality is perfect like KC said. I have had the generic cialis and the one I got was from Teva, a company with sales in the billions and global operations. Why risk an unknown brand from Asia?
4. As for research chems, their prices from what I’ve seen are not even cheaper and based on reports here the quality seems very variable. Anyone who wants to pay the same price for something that’s made in a dude’s kitchen (and it assuredly is), well more power to you but I don’t think you know what you’re taking, what impurities you’re getting etc.
5. As a bonus, I can even get other stuff I use, I picked up some clenbuterol and Provigil and i can’t get that elsewhere.

Originally Posted by davetherave
The thing that puts evopharmacy over the top for me is:

1. It’s identical to what you’d get if prescribed from a USA based doctor. Why take a risk on something from Asia which might get seized but is from a country where it’s much less quality control - as a bonus, I know I’m buying from a real pharmacy. Why risk buying from someone who is not?

2. It’s cheap enough for me.
3. Quality is perfect like KC said. I have had the generic cialis and the one I got was from Teva, a company with sales in the billions and global operations. Why risk an unknown brand from Asia?
4. As for research chems, their prices from what I’ve seen are not even cheaper and based on reports here the quality seems very variable. Anyone who wants to pay the same price for something that’s made in a dude’s kitchen (and it assuredly is), well more power to you but I don’t think you know what you’re taking, what impurities you’re getting etc.
5. As a bonus, I can even get other stuff I use, I picked up some clenbuterol and Provigil and i can’t get that elsewhere.


See the thing is Dave your arguing with a guy selling from that site just like your selling for evo which isn’t necessary because an account was set up with evo saying exactly who they are and why they are here. So you no longer need to promote the company your obviously affiliated with, it looks bad. I’ve already given them a great review and I’m here for almost three years now and I don’t just post in this section so other see me as a trusted member. Don’t turn us off to evo. Gears already has done that with the site he promotes.

And please Dave don’t say your not I looked up your post and they almost all point to evo. Don’t insult our collective intelligence

Dude I’ve been a member here longer than they have been in existence and while I’ve made some posts mentioning them, as you can see from the one made yesterday, it’s hardly my only contribution here.

I will maybe be mindful of how things look in future though, it’s just if someone asks me questions point blank about why I don’t do something, I feel they deserve a detailed reply.

Originally Posted by davetherave
Dude I’ve been a member here longer than they have been in existence and while I’ve made some posts mentioning them, as you can see from the one made yesterday, it’s hardly my only contribution here.

I will maybe be mindful of how things look in future though, it’s just if someone asks me questions point blank about why I don’t do something, I feel they deserve a detailed reply.


Fair enough Dave, it’s just your last bunch of post mentioned them not just in this thread but all the others. A lot of us here don’t like gorilla marketing. Again I like evo I think their legit. Unfortunately the world of PE is full of people to prey on for money for very obvious reasons, so if I see something I say something. I love this place, I’ve grown because of this place and it’s members, so I don’t want anyone getting taken advantage of here that’s all. Not that evo is taking advantage of anyone. Hopefully you understand where I’m coming from.

Nice little back and forth here about ethics, prin...

RE: EVO, etc….Nice little back and forth here about ethics, principles, dedication to the site and its members. Good going guys. You rock.


Growing is Good, and feels good.

There are still a few things that make me wary of Evo. However, I am seeing similar results in body building and hair loss forums, that Evo has been coming through on small orders, but they do not (yet) have a track record of consistently coming through on “bigger” orders… I’m talking 100’s of pills and $200+ orders. And, no, I don’t even count the posts by members who created their account in the past month and have only a handful of posts, all in the ED forums. In fact, THAT makes my BS meter peg out.

(Not talking about you Dave, I hope your success with Evo continues and you keep us all informed… when senior members report a track record of success, that’s when I take notice. Hopefully, Evo proves out to be a better quality source than ADC.)

IMO, it’s important to recognize that unless a site is fully “certified” by real pharmacy organizations and requires a prescription for your meds (often with prices to match) then they are at least a little bit “shady”. Do your research…


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My recent and first experience w EVO.

I got my package last week, but been so busy w the holidays and work I figured my best time would be New Years Eve week. I opened my package and realized I was sent the wrong product. I was given the generic UK Sildenafil pills when I actually ordered, and was charged for, the V.

I figured it’s alright since it’s still 100mg, but since the site was down yesterday I couldn’t check on it. Today, I’m able to check the site and noticed that’s a BIG difference in price. I emailed them just now and I’m leaving a post here in case someone can help to speed up the process.

Guess I won’t be partying w the misses for New Years either then.

Originally Posted by Shrimp
My recent and first experience w EVO.

I got my package last week, but been so busy w the holidays and work I figured my best time would be New Years Eve week. I opened my package and realized I was sent the wrong product. I was given the generic UK Sildenafil pills when I actually ordered, and was charged for, the V.

I figured it’s alright since it’s still 100mg, but since the site was down yesterday I couldn’t check on it. Today, I’m able to check the site and noticed that’s a BIG difference in price. I emailed them just now and I’m leaving a post here in case someone can help to speed up the process.

Guess I won’t be partying w the misses for New Years either then.


Wait why not use them anyway.

They won’t want them back it cost too much in shipping. So if got this right…you want name brand but they sent generic?

My experience with the first package wasn’t what I ordered at all and they said to keep it or toss it. I’d just use the generics and let them send you what you paid for. It cost too much to send it back so they won’t want it back. Just my 2 cents. Also the generics work great I just used a 1/4 today and all systems were ago for me.

Oh I didn’t know what the process would be like. Didn’t want to cause any issues where I’d be told “too bad so sad”.

The ones I was given is listed at $10+ while the one I paid for was close to 7x that.

Not including the shipping cost of course. I was like why does the pill have a number 8 on it? Lol.

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