I’m curious what you all mean when you say products that don’t contain ephedrine work well. Have you experienced significant fat loss over what you would normally expect in the same period without taking these pills?
The jittery (and probably shrinky dick) effects that ephedrine causes wear off over time as one becomes accustomed to it, yet the thermogenic effect continues. The subjective sense of being wired up is not an effective indicator of how well a fat-loss supplement is working. See the link I posted above.
If I gulp down 64 ounces of strong coffee, I’ll go up the wall, but it doesn’t have the same effects on metabolism as an EC stack.