Extreme EQ, EF, and greater PE gains, thru herbal/pharma, and 2 technique/habits

Thanks for trying to explain it further. I did understand you, multiple wet orgasms, I just thanked you because it worked great for what I was doing to.

I have tried two tied with wet orgasms now, but no luck so far. But I will try again.

Good luck with the new record :)

I quit after the 4th one LOL.

I’m alone tonite so maybe I’ll go for over 10, then after getting to 10, I’ll be motivated to go further.

Fantastic thread, love new stuff like this.

So I have it right - in the moments leading up to orgasm, you don’t touch your glans, corona, frenulum and foreskin? I just came from rubbing about the mid point of my shaft on the underside. Is this area OK?

Lastly, I get how this works when masturbating, but what about sex? I mean, obviously your entire penis is engulfed by her pussy including the areas we want to avoid touching when reaching orgasm…

Yes. just prior to and during orgasm don’t touch anywhere near the head. And if you can’t find a “looser part” to lay perfectly still during orgasm, pull out if she’s cool with it.

8x8, have you been getting 10?

I assume you mean 10/10 EQ?
The rating system changes as one’s EQ improves to high levels.
So while most of the erections I get now are easily a 10/10 on my old scale, I now actually highly crave that super dangerously engorged feeling I get when reverse-kegelling near the PONR, and that about to pop, has become my new 10. And I cannot get there without the reverse kegel after edging.

But for all practical comparitive purposes, yes. And the flaccid is is actually like a 40-50% erection all day, the day after adding the tadalafil. By sane standards, I just am craving 11’s and 12’s now I guess. :) If that’s what you meant.

I’m referring to your post of 6/22:

One more question when it comes to avoiding the prepuce.

I’ve been trying to orgasm by rubbing the underside of my midshaft. I can do this quite easily, but I think the area I’m rubbing is foreskin - and it’s only around the midshaft since it’s been retracted.

When I try to orgasm by rubbing the base, I can barely feel anything pleasurable. Do you actually orgasm by rubbing the base, or do you just try & reach orgasm by rubbing as low on the shaft as possilble, possibly getting some foreskin, & then make sure to move your hand right down to the base when you reach the point of no return?

Bump, because I seem to have worked it out.

8/8 - you are really on to something here man. I’ve been able to climax … sit around for a minute or two, start masturbating and before I know it I’m erect again. Had 3 orgasms in half an hour with ease.

The orgasms from the lower shaft are interesting - for me I still expel fluid, but noticeably less & its clearer. Also, while it’s definitely an orgasm it’s a little less intense, because I have less PC contractions. Probably just 2-3 very pleasurable ones - whereas when stimulating the glans I’d have at least 10 +.

Thanks for posting, this technique really is golden. I might have to try some of your supplements too & see if it can get even better….

Like Yataghan50, I’ve been doing these “headless orgasms” while masturbating too, and finding the same thing, I can resume and come again several times. It’s fun!

After a two week long decon break from everything…..absent alll PE and all supplements…. I was noticably not close to as hard at peak erection as I’d been during the supplementation, and the erections came much slower than the superhuman sh!t I’d been used to. I’m back on all the aminos and herbs as of yesterday, and I’m gonna go no tadalafil for 2 weeks, and see if it will reach the insane level of EQ I had prior to my decon, and if not, I’ll go back to the combo of everything plus tadalafil, cause having that great of EQ and that “strong” of a sex drive was truly alot of fun, and very gratifying both ego and bodily.

Prior to the decon break, I added 378mg of Swedish flower pollen, and I had a very marked increase in pre-cum flow. lots of very clear precum even when not nearing the PONR. and when i’d go tantric or edge, I noticed a sort of small pressure build up behind and above the root of my penis. I am convinced that whatever gland creates precum is very stimulated by swedish flower pollen.

I am considering a handful more of supplements to weave in and out of this regimend as well, more intermittently than the current list, which is due for an updated complete list. Several of them are things I will only be trying on days when i do heavy PE routines, like today. Others are actually cognitive in nature, but I am interested in their effects on libido and the penis. I will report back on what they are if I feel like they are assisting in PE or any related sexual factor.

Excellent tips in this thread, will introduce this to the bedroom next time I sleep with the missus :)

How exactly are you meant to do this none gland stimulation before climax, while inside your girl?

I’ll try both out when I get a chance, just curious, how you eliminate glans stimulation, whilst inside a chick? Wont you inevitably be stimulating it?

Be still during orgasm, and tell her not to kegel during it. Or just climax outside the vagina.

I’ve started using Damiana, Maca, ZMA, & Ginko as per the thread (couldn’t use everything listed :) ), all seem to be having a very positive effect.

Could you expand a little more on how to do this during sex? I get the gist, but I’ve tried about 3 times & can’t seem to get the same effect as when I do it by hand.

So, as soon as you reach the point of no return you stop moving … you cum, without thrusting, & then you stay still for a bit longer … approx how long do you tend to stay still inside her after cumming?