Extreme EQ, EF, and greater PE gains, thru herbal/pharma, and 2 technique/habits

not long. 15 seconds or so, which seems like 30.

Excellent thread!!

It so happens that sometimes you read something and start to recollect your own experience and than link with it. The second theory is spot-on and yes I have not yet tried it knowingly but will do so soon. However this explains some of my experiences. Pre-marriage while having unprotected sex with my gf now missus there was always a fear of pregnancy and to avoid that I used to ejaculate out of her mostly showering her with cum and so indirectly I was following the second technique and believe me that even after orgasm I was only 10-15% soft and within a minute of so embark on the next ride which would of course last much longer and with time the erection gets back to as good as the first one. I remember having continuous back to back 4 straight sessions and was ready for the fifth when she gave up owing to intense pain and exhaustion after about coupe of hours of worlds favorite game in all possible positions and places in my house.

Now the current scenario I guess the best would be to lie still and not stimulate your glans while near cumming. Hopefully this should give the same result. Will try and get back!

This looks very interesting. I am going to try it after work today. The no glan touching technique sounds promising.

Thank you so much for sharing them :D

I think you should get a blood test to check your liver functions and a sperm count. I just saw a segment of ‘30 days’ in which a person went on a similar ‘rejuvenation’ program. By the 20th day his liver functions had deteriorated significantly and his motile sperm count was minimal. I’m not saying you are wrong; I just think it would be wise to monitor those levels.

I will add Milk thistle, and I will get the bloodwork done…not out of fear that this regimend has endangered my liver…but just as a general health practice.

New updates, I have eliminated some of the supplements (Tribestan is way too steroidal), and brought in 2 self-capped supplements, which I think have been a very inexpensive and fun addition, both of which work and help to keep the other substances alive longer in my bloodstream:

Ginger
Cayenne pepper

i cap empty gel capsules with 500mg of each of these powdered spices, whcih I buy bulk at my local ethnic grocery store. I tell you, the cayenne makes an immediate difference the first time you try it, although it does burn a little in the stomach LOL…..it feels like your blood is moving a million miles an hour.

And also, I really have to laud the bulk Maca root powder from “Maca magic”, and the swedish flower pollen….not for any extreme EQ, but for making my loads gigantic. Even the precum flow when edging is ridiculous, it’s like an entire ML of perfectly clear precum everytime you edge just a little farther than you should, but not “too far” where there is any white in the flow. And even during hard oral, the strands of clear, sticky precum are ubiquitous.

This thread should be brought to peoples attention, especially the part about glans stimulation whilst ejaculating for I too have found this to be true.

Thanks 8x8.

What about “hands free” orgasms? I’m talking about the PONR then letting go of the penis and letting it contract on its own as you orgasm. No touching of the penis at any area be it the glands or the lower part of the shaft. Orgasms and ejaculation are not as intense as stimulating the glands or shaft, but would that cause a higher arousal sensation making reaching 100% erection easier?

What Id like to know is where to get all these herbal supplements at. It would be useful to know so we can mimic the supplementation that your taking 8x8

Liver overkill?.

Just tried this technique. It seems I require stimulation of the head for me to get anywhere near achieving orgasm. Just stroking the base does nothing for me. Nonetheless, I tried rubbing the head till I was close to orgasm then went straight to only stroking base and was able to orgasm. However, my load was not that clear and exhibited the turtling effect afterwards. Any suggestions?

Btw, do you take one or two supplements that have a majority of those ingredients in it or do you take each supplement individually

Nice info 8x8 thanks!!!

I decided to give the second technique a try today and wow, it works really well. The orgasms are definitely less intense by a fair bit, but I was able to have five in about 15 minutes of masturbation. I probably could have had more, but decided to stop. They are certainly not as pleasurable as full friction, but when you can have them one after another that’s awesome! Just to note, the last couple didn’t have much ejaculate. The first one was full on like normal, and the ejaculate amount dwindled as the number of orgasms increased. Totally awesome though, and there was no turtling after I decided to stop!

I honestly have no idea what causes this phenomenon, but I can tell you right now I am totally trying this with my wife tonight! (Interestingly enough, I had one of my first ever early ejaculations just last night before reading this today… And I felt bad that sex was much shorter than usual. If only I had known to just tell her to stop riding for 20 seconds we could have kept going :P)

I’m yet to start my PE because I’m still working out my routine etc but I just had a quick question about 2 of the supplements you are taking, namely Saw Palmetto and Stinging Nettle, my reasons being that I was originally thinking of taking these to help in my fight against MPB as a natural alternative to Propecia but had reservations due to not knowing what effect it would have on any PE I would undertake. I’ve heard some people mention impotence and the penis shrinking, obviously because it messes with your testosterone.

Just wondering on your opinion?

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I heard that Saw Palmetto Extract was the better choice

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The Stinging Nettle, do you also take both of these in pill form orally?

I was also thinking about adding Green Tea, anything else you would recommend priority in your list? As I don’t think I’d take them all.

Thank you :)

As for your concerns about MPB, I take a cruciferous DIM I3C supplement, a pine bark extract supplement, and I believe one or two of my supplements may have small amounts of Saw Palmetto, although as I understand it, saw Palmetto is only for the prostate-area DHT conversion, the stinging nettle is more for the scalp based DHT conversion….I bought a German topical nettle tonic (Brennessel haarbalsam?), but have yet to use it. :)

I will post an updated list of what I take, and how often. Even though it has been some time since I did serious PE more than a day or two per month. Just been enjoying life :) . Should really get down to business, cause I wanna enter the porn world shortly, and come in on par with Shane Diesel (around 8” x 7”, check his dildo) or Jack Napier, with much much better EQ.