Glutamine (acid) => GABA => Solution to Premature Ejaculation?

hey ys

this is becoming a really interesting thread really.

I want to ask you one thing though.

Is it glutamine or glutamic acid (aka glutamate) you’re talking about, as these two are different aminoacids. I’ve checked a lot of the pharmacys, walmart, and even gnc and they don’t have glutamic acid. as for glutamine, I already use it after the gym and stuff, yet all i noticed is that if i sweat a whole lot shortly after i’ve taken some (btw 1 serving of glutamine is 4.5 - 5 grams) then i smell like it. (it’s like sweaty socks) so it would greatly help if you could make this distinction. thanks a lot.

hey essekziki,
it’s glutamic acid I’m on about, not L-glutamine (misspelt it all throughout the thread.. Darn it :) ).
Yeah, that’s the stuff that is used in lots of asian food (and causes some people to react allergic to it).
You know I have literally _loved_ asian food all my life.. Now that I’m taking the glutamine acid all by itself, the craving for asian food nearly stopped. Maybe my craving for asian food was just unconscious self-medication for the glutamate underdosage I was experiencing..
But then glutamate AKA glutamic acid can be easily produced by the body so I can’t see a reason why taking glutamate (!) would do anything like the results I’m on about.
Very weird if you ask me.

Anyways, glutamic acid has some positive effects when it comes to GABA/HGH production (delivers most of the energy needed for production IIRC). Maybe that is why I’m having all these effects.

BTW: I’m doing a no glutamic acid day in between, just to check for any changes :)

Ys

Update on the day off:
I just noticed something I didn’t do before. My flaccid hang seems to be way better with glutamic acid than it is without it (and no, it’s not an allergic swelling, since I don’t have any allergic symptoms whatsoever with glutamate).

BP measurements with glutamic acid (AKA glutamate): 6.46” FBPL, 4.96” FG
BP measurements without glutamic acid (AKA glutamate): 5.59” FBPL, 4.53” FG

Since this glutamic acid seems to help with healing tissue (I’m on a lig overstretch recovery at the moment) this could just be a result of the reduced inflammation thanks to the “reduced” glutamic acid level (or more specifically: its derivates in my blood).

My sensitivity to sexual impulses ;) has increased by a pretty big percentage (my estimate is at about 150% _more_ than with glutamic acid).
Let’s just hope this is a real effect and not a placebo effect I am creating here.

Ys

Just noticed this thread! What the hell is this stuff?? A supplement? An anti-depressant? I’ll do a search.

If it helps premature ejaculation I’m going down to the shops!

ziggaman,
basically it’s the stuff used to increase the flavor of meats in eg. asian food (AKA glutamate as someone pointed out) :)

It’s far from doing wonders to my Prem.Ejac. problem, but it surely helps (me)..
On the other hand I’m getting a lot of weird results from it.. Some weird results that aren’t part of any “effects/sideeffects” list for glutamic acid.
Maybe I’m just too feely, but then that’s just how I normally try out new things :)

Don’t overdo the glutamate (and post here with your results if any :) ).

Ys

Do you mean mono-sodium-glutamate, otherwise referred to as MSG, and banned in some countries? I have heard it is really bad for you!

You said at first that it did help your premature ejaculation. Are you saying you made a mistake?

Nah it’s called glutamic acid, but yeah it seems to be somewhat related to the mono-sodium/natrium-glutamate..
It’s an aspartate form of glutamic acid though. Dunno really if this is actually the same thing being used in asian food (like essekziki told me).
It surely helps me with a lot of things though, including sensitivity during sex.
The effects of it eg. when “taking it before going to sleep => grogginess in the morning” are like the effects that Werner Ashford is referring to when he talks about L-Glutamine in his ballooning thread.
Maybe glutamic acid is actually not glutamate, but really Glutamine as I first figured.

A pity noone more knowledgeable in this is joining in here.. I should prolly do a post in the main member’s forum :)

About the prem. ejac.:
Nopes, I didn’t say I did a mistake there.. I’m just trying to see it in a more scientific way.
I got the effect of prolonging the ejaculation without first believing in it.
But it could still be just a placebo effect, eg. if I _REALLY_ believed that eating horse shit would help me with my prem. ejaculation problem it would prolly do that for me.. well, most probably.
I don’t think this is the case here, but it’s still possible nevertheless and that is all I was trying to say there :)

Ys

But taking into consideration that it could be a placebo affect; have you suffered from premature ejaculation since taking larger quantities of this substance?

I suffered from premature ejaculation since that sex accident roughly 5 years ago.
It got way better when taking substantial doses of glutamine acid.

And no, I really disliked asian food 5 years ago.. My craving for it started about 3 years ago (of course relying on the assumption that glutamic acid is the same as glutamate).

What sex accident?

In short (along with my reasoning):

Ex-gf doing the wild girl ride on my innocent boyhood
=> penile fracture
=> no medical treatment
=> development of scar tissue
=> really soft CS starting from the impact area
=> bent resulting from the softer tissue in the CS (after the scar tissue)
=> really easy to trigger the nerves that go along the urethra (which happens to be amidst the CS)
=> sex life and self image ruined for 5 years
=> finally got to TP :)
=> on my way to recovering the CS and premature ejaculation as well (or so I hope at least)

Ys

P.S: That’s 5 years in this story.. In reality it was 8 years, but it took me some time to develop the self-damaging picture. ;)

Sorry to hear about that ys. What does CS stand for?

Corpora Spongiosum.. The tissue holding the (bigger) Corpora Carnivosa (??.. abbreviated as CC anyways).
When the CS is too weak it’s (quite logically) resulting in a downcurving of your penis (and the ‘freeing’ of the nerves responsible for -besides other things- the trigger zone impulses).
*sigh*

Well in retrospect the only thing I learnt is: Get to your doctor fast. You never know what you are gonna get in exchange :(

Oh and one other thing: I just remembered that it really got me down that I did a nearly instant shooter in missionary then.. With today’s knowledge it makes quite a lot of sense (activation of trigger zone at the glans, hard stimulation of the nerves transmitting the trigger zone stimulation by the new downcurve, etc. pp.).

Now why isn’t _this_ the stuff taught in school?
It’s not as if things like these would happen rarely… au contrair (IMO).

Ys

Hey ys

Glutamate and glutamic acid are the same ( ex med school student here, a few things I remember :P) and they both refer to the same aminoacid. Glutamine is a different amino acid in your body. Msg is an inverted version of glutamate, makes the blandest foods first class fine meals.. I wanted to share these tiny bits of info as well as some good news on my part. I’ve been doing kegels and jelq for about a month, on a regular basis, and I’ve acquired better girth and length (easily noticeable, no measurements yet though) and CONTROL of ejaculation (last time I had sex w/ my gf, I was able to control/stop it, and started laughing because it felt really funny, and she was like wtf :) )) ) I just flexed my kegel muscle with all my might and it did the trick :) also even if I don’t work on my muscles, the duration before I reach the point of no return seems to be noticeably longer:D so good stuff good stuff..

Now my question. Ys where do you live? I live in Canada, and no pharmacy, even gnc doesn’t know about glutamate. Pharmacists know what it is of course but they don’t know if it’s sold anywhere like vitamin pills.. I really wanted to try and see the effects of it for myself.

essekziki,
well yeah I figured that much.. Which just means that I was going for a completely other “medication” and got some interesting effects :)
As for the Glutamine: It’s hard to come by Glutamine here in *hint* Germany. Well I may try it out someday when I find it on Ebay.

Now on the effects on my premature ejaculation thingy:
In retrospect (t.m. being off Glutamine and L-Arginine for a week+) glutamate got me the following “proven” effects (good and bad).. Unluckily premature ejaculation is not one of these.. I really wonder..
In any case here goes the list:
- better memory
- fucked up general processing ;) ( eg. made calculus very difficult at times.. or remember that word I know but can’t get a grasp on right now.. You got the picture by now I think)
- stronger, more enduring overall muscles (without any exercise whatsoever going on.. only lasting for the time “being on” glutamate)
- the skin felt definitely thicker and more stretchable (dick skin included => really helped me getting rid of the turkey neck by sack stretching)
- really helped my (mindly) concentration

If there is any effect on my prem. ejac. it is that with an increased ability to concentrate it probably helped me notice when I get to the point of no return (in ejaculation) and subconsciously block that off (thus the suscepted “ability” to last way longer).
Kegels are a nice way to cut off the ejaculation while it’s starting.. I probably just couldn’t catch the point where you can still stop the ejaculation.
IOW: I was in the middle of ejaculating when I first noticed it. This may or may not be in relation to the glutamic acid AKA glutamate.

Oh BTW I got a pack of glutamic acid in a product called “Glutamin Verla”.. It supposedly will “better your wellbeing” (dunno really how to translate this correctly) and in the prescription notes the manufacturer doesn’t cease to point out that it probably / maybe / etc. pp. will help you achieving an increased feeling of well-being.. Very “interesting”.. Reminds me of the claims people make in the field of homeopathy somewhat.

A last side note: Verla seems to be the name of the manufacturer which is located in Germany as well (just in case this may help you finding a product that contains glutamic acid in its raw form).

Ys