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Just stick to intermittent fasting and HIIT for higher natural HGH levels.

Originally Posted by Kingd8808
You’ve made a good argument, the only problem that I have with this is that when you use the word “evidence” and don’t site any reference to an authority that would substantiate your claim. I’ve used oral HGH and know plenty of people who have, with great results. As a matter of fact, the fact that many professional athletes are banned from using some oral forms of HGH such as deer antler spray proves they are effective. Noone disputes the effectiveness of injectable HGH, but how many people can pay $800-$2000 for that? It’s not a viable solution for your average person, and that’s not considering that the individual would have to continue to use it. In the context of PE that’s not a promise on return that it will have on the penis size, especially after it’s use is discontinued. Say if it does give you an initial gain there’s no guarantee that there will be continued growth or that the initial gain will be maintained after the individual quits taking it.

Deer antler is bunk and mk677 and another I have forgotten the name of are the only orals the will raise GH/IGF.

My opinion if wanting to raise GH is to use peptides as they raise your natural levels, mk677 does this as well but lethargy is horrible with mk677. Peptides are expensive too but depending on dosage it could be $40-$200 a month. Mk677 if you can deal with the lethargy is like $40 a month.

Deer antler isn’t that bad, but then again it’s all relative, increase in comparison, but it still depends on the individual and their response to any given substance as well as the quality. There’s alot of poor quality deer antler, as with anything. What peptides are you talking about specifically? 200 a month isn’t horrible if it works well. What are the strength and mass gains like on them?

HGH injectable is the way to go as far as vs sprays or pillls. Most is garbage. Other than maybe MK.(sarm) .they are just marketing. While some may boost your HGH slightly it’s not enough to actually give you real benifits. It’s easy to go get a serum test to see your IGF levels. HGH causes the liver to excrete IGF. There is sarms and peptides that can give you some good results however for me I would rather just use HGH. And at times I’ll add IGF for a month and push hard. But like I said if you want to know if something works just get a serum test. It’s like 50$ and you’ll know. I love HGH and have been on it for like 10 years. I’ve had no ill effects so far that includes getting regular blood work. I’m not telling anyone that it’s safe as no one truly knows long term. I however feel at a low dose it’s amazing. I’m involved in contact sports and it helped me recover fast. And in NO way do I think site injections make any difference and that includes IGF lr3. Other than IGF des which has a 20 minute half-life. That has potential for site injections. But again I choose to take HGH and understand the risks.. But it improves the quality of my life so I go with it.

And Lethargy is a common side effect of HGH which typically goes away.. At least you know it is working.

Originally Posted by PlisskenSn
I have used HGH in the past year with good results. (Novo nordisk)
To overdo it is hard because the stuff is expensive, and you would need to inject over 5iu a day for a month or two. If you do , you can expect that terminator boxy jaw and those huge abdomens some bodybuilders have (yeah, intestines grow with this stuff when you overdo).
I am 35, used it for 4 months at 3iu eod. Got some lean mass, lost a few fat pounds, and my jaw grew a little (my teeth got more space and are straightening now.. Weird).
Still. The price is too high (compared at what you get at this age) and I don’t think I will try again soon. Perhaps at my 50s.

On the other hands.. You can get a boost in natural HGH by using IGF1 (insulin growing factor). There are tons of forums dedicated to AAS and this tricks.

And.. I agree. Any non injectable claiming to promote HGH is bogus. Tried a few, just herbal powders with weird taste and effects.

Intestines do not grow. While yes anything can grow on HGH but the intestine thing is a myth. If their intestines are so huge during the show, why do they gow away after? Their stomachs are distended due to the massive amount of food eaten to be that huge. Then they insanely cut even water for the show so you see everything. I wish I had the article but basically it’s shit and a stretched stomach lol. After the shows these guys walk around and they don’t have that stomach bulge. Again I’ve been running HGH for almost ten years and while I stay very lean, nothing grew crazy. No change in my jaw or stomach or anything. Not too mention these guys are running like 10 IU a day plus. I’ve ran 5IU for an extended period and still no weird growth other than being extremely lean and muscular. Neither has any of my friends. I test the HGH I use and it is very good. While there may be risks and things I can’t see.. This growing body part myth is just that. A myth

Actually HGH causes all of your organs to grow…there is no bias with HGH. This has already been proven, no myth.


Start : 7 BPEL, 4.8 mseg

Now : 8 BPEL, 5.43 mseg, 8.375 BPFSL


Last edited by thepi0neer : 02-20-2020 at .

Though, as i’ve said before, using HGH for pe is not an intelligent thing to do. Either you are wasting a lot of money while not seeing results because you aren’t using enough or you are seriously risking your health while spending even more money. Do the correct research and don’t cherry pick information.


Start : 7 BPEL, 4.8 mseg

Now : 8 BPEL, 5.43 mseg, 8.375 BPFSL

Lol cherry picking negative bad info is no better.. And unless you are using insane doses it just isn’t true

Having more GH than your body produces naturally will increase the size of your internal organs period. There is no argument there, it’s already been proven.

But yeah, you would need to take pretty crazy amounts to see an increase to the size of your penis.
HGH + P.E. = Not Smart


Start : 7 BPEL, 4.8 mseg

Now : 8 BPEL, 5.43 mseg, 8.375 BPFSL

Where has that been proven? Just because you say its so doesnt make it true. There is no solid evidence that it happens without crazy doses. Even then lol Its amazing that people can believe your head will grow but in now way can conceive your penis could. I also am not saying it will make your dick grow.. However it spreads up the healing process which is obviously a good thing. Myself and plenty others I know have never reported organ growth or anything of the sort after years and years of doing it. And yes I use real HGH that has been tested in the lab. So saying its already proven is just not true. If you are against it that your opinion and I respect it. Could this have a negative impact on my health in the future? Absolutely! However my years of experience and research with it .leads me to feel its safe at dosages under 5iu daily. FOR ME. But it absolutely helps heal anybody part including the penis. Creates new muscle cells and tissue. Could it grow existing tumor’s? Possibly but doesn’t cause them. But again it hasn’t been proven as that research is very limited. Again I respect your veiws on not taking it but to say your organs grow, it has no use in PE, and to tell me to do proper research, from someone with no actual experience is pretty closed minded. Not to mention lame.. As I was just giving my thoughts as thats what the poster was asking. Feel free to find the one or two articles that don’t prove your comment but believe its possible and ill show you a ton of articles that admit there is no real evidence. Aside from the many people I know including my own experience of over 10 years taking between 3-5 iu a day. Pretty close minded for someone who is involved in penis enlargement lol.

Originally Posted by Guy99

Where has that been proven? Just because you say its so doesnt make it true. There is no solid evidence that it happens without crazy doses. Even then lol Its amazing that people can believe your head will grow but in now way can conceive your penis could. I also am not saying it will make your dick grow.. However it spreads up the healing process which is obviously a good thing. Myself and plenty others I know have never reported organ growth or anything of the sort after years and years of doing it. And yes I use real HGH that has been tested in the lab. So saying its already proven is just not true. If you are against it that your opinion and I respect it. Could this have a negative impact on my health in the future? Absolutely! However my years of experience and research with it .leads me to feel its safe at dosages under 5iu daily. FOR ME. But it absolutely helps heal anybody part including the penis. Creates new muscle cells and tissue. Could it grow existing tumor’s? Possibly but doesn’t cause them. But again it hasn’t been proven as that research is very limited. Again I respect your veiws on not taking it but to say your organs grow, it has no use in PE, and to tell me to do proper research, from someone with no actual experience is pretty closed minded. Not to mention lame.. As I was just giving my thoughts as thats what the poster was asking. Feel free to find the one or two articles that don’t prove your comment but believe its possible and ill show you a ton of articles that admit there is no real evidence. Aside from the many people I know including my own experience of over 10 years taking between 3-5 iu a day. Pretty close minded for someone who is involved in penis enlargement lol.

Okay having read that whole diatribe do you have a background in medial research, physiology, endocrinology and pharmacology?

It’s just a discussion, nbd.
buttttttt
Not because I say so, science says so..
GH is produced in the body in the first place so that you will grow, It’s literally in the name.
What in your body produces HGH? Your pituitary glands. What happens when your pituitary glands don’t shut off and keep producing large amounts of Gh up till and past puberty? You suffer from gigantism. You literally don’t stop growing. That in and of itself should be solid proof.
GH gut? A lot of people say it’s a myth and the dishonest bodybuilders say it’s from eating (some have become more honest the past couple of year)….ha. Doctors will say otherwise
Though anecdotal, a vast majority of the top body builders will attest to the fact that their entire bodies grew from taking HGH. Limbs, Guts, Dick.
Look over autopsy reports of some of the bodybuilders that have died in the past decade or so, almost all of them had massively enlarged hearts and intestine.
Anabolic Steroids don’t do that HGH does.

Yeah low doses aren’t going to kill you and you will see some nice benefits, but if you are taking more than your body produces naturally you are growing my guy. Maybe it a negligible amount but it’s happening.

I don’t feel like I’m being closed minded. I haven’t taken it myself, but I can say I do a ton of research on things I’m passionate about and bodybuilding/powerlifting just so happen to be one of those things.


Start : 7 BPEL, 4.8 mseg

Now : 8 BPEL, 5.43 mseg, 8.375 BPFSL

Solid proof?? Lol no it bsolutely will make you grow as you are growing. And yes during puberty and growth it can cause gigantism. That’s why it’s given to children however that’s not the case in adults.. But again theee is no eveidence that it does this to adults. Nobody would take it if you just kept growing. It’s totally different and not remotely evidence. If you add dht (testosterone) to children with micro penis there dick will grow. Doesn’t do that for adults.. Hmmmm I too have don a ton of research and always looking for the negatives on anything I do. Again at insane doses(pro bodybuilding) I agree that it has to be f@cking them up. This day and age they are freakishly big and lean. I’m sure that and many other side effects are terrible. But taking at lower dosing the research just doesn’t show that. And 5IU the benefits are very noticeable. And in my case and others that have been on long term haven’t experienced any of that. Between bloodwork and examinations I’ve never found an issue related to HGH. BUT that does not mean I won’t have some long term problems as It’s just not possible of knowing what it could be doing to me down the road. Anyhow to each there own.. I’m as careful as I can be and spend extensive time researching HGH or anything else I put in my body.

Originally Posted by Jimmybob55

Okay having read that whole diatribe do you have a background in medial research, physiology, endocrinology and pharmacology?

really? Cmon man.. I’m telling my thoughts on it. I can’t comment without that? Butttt your not asking your buddy that for stating his opinion based on his research. But I’m sure you must know he’s more than qualified to state his opinion on the matter. Not did I read the poster saying only doctors can comment. You got me bro.. Next time I’ll just agree with whatever opinions I’m fed as I may not have the qualifications to speak. Or I can just run things by you as I’m sure your more than qualified to speak on any posts that interest you. What was I thinking.. Stating my opinion when someone asked about something I have personal experience with. Enlighten me oh great one.

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