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Letter from customs office

I just got a letter from customs saying they are holding a package of Viagra that was shipped to me from over seas.I ordered some Viagra off the Web a couple months ago,but when it didn’t arrive after a month I contacted the company and cancelled.They refunded my money so that is not an issue.But apparently they shipped it anyway,and now U.S. Customs says if I want it I have to call them or write them a letter,because it appears to be illegal.has this happened to anyone else? Should I be worried? Cause right now I’m a little nervous to say the least.

Just forget about it you got your money back so don’t get greedy I don’t know if you can get in trouble but why take the chance of finding out.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Hey Dino,thanks for the input.I’m not thinking about trying to get them.I’m just trying to find out if I’m in any kind of trouble.You know the saying,”I love my country but I fear my government”.I just don’t want any legal trouble if you know what I mean .

Some on-line pharmacies will get their docs to send a prescription with your meds to avoid any complications at customs.See if you can get a hold of them and request this,they might have forgotton.You can also try explaining to your doctor and get him to write you a prescription,unless you didn’t want to approach him in the first place.If he writes you a script makesure it’s backdated and contact customs and explain that you instructed the pharmacy to send the script with your meds,but they must have forgotton.

BTW you are entitled to a personal 3 month supply of a drug if it’s not available in your country..but!! a lower price is not an acceptable reason for importing.So although you wont get any friction from customs you may not get your stuff either.also if the tabs are unmarked and just look like VG’s then you cant import because Pfizer has the patent for sildenafil citrate until 2007 I believe and even now they’re working on a topical version as an orphan drug version..just so they can get their patent extended that and another billion to the FDA probably!

Dont contact them or continue this emptyhanded because it sounds like a roost/bait!.Good luck

I’m with Dino. Forget it. The government snagged your stuff. Leave it at that. It’s only Viagra, but why risk admitting guilt by raising a fuss?

The feds might let in however many days worth of medicine, but watch out for state laws. In some states possessing prescription medicine without a prescription (and usually prescriptions written by foreign docs don’t count) can get you into some serious trouble.

In your situation I wouldn’t worry. Nor would I admit ordering the stuff.

Probably a customs agent who suffers from ED.

Originally Posted by marty5379

Probably a customs agent who suffers from ED.

How true!LOL..happens all the time with anabolic steroids and many different drugs.Weapons is another big one as well.

I’m pleased to live in the freest country on Earth. Land of the free, home of the brave. You know, the place where the feds steal your foreign-ordered Viagra.

Highest percentage of the population in prison, many of them for possessing substances the state has decreed illegal. ~50% cumulative tax rate. God bless this great country.

Amen.

Replying to the letter is an admission of guilt, Trust me I have imported various non recreational drugs before so I am quite aware of US Customs authority. Also they don’t have to let you import anything, the 90 day thing is merely they can if they want to or not. Since Viagra is available in the states it would be virtually impossible to get them to allow you to import it. Throw the letter away. Forget you ever saw it, Order liquid Viagra from a research chems company.

Here is a copy of the FDA policy on importation.

Information on Importation of Drugs
Prepared by the Division of Import Operations and Policy, FDA
The United States Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (Act) (21 U.S.C. section 331) prohibits the interstate shipment (which includes importation) of unapproved new drugs. Thus, the importation of drugs that lack FDA approval, whether for personal use or otherwise, violates the Act. Unapproved new drugs are any drugs, including foreign-made versions of U.S. approved drugs, that have not been manufactured in accordance with and pursuant to an FDA approval. Under the Act, FDA may refuse admission to any drug that “appears” to be unapproved, placing the burden on the importer to prove that the drug sought to be imported is in fact approved by FDA. Absent evidence that the specific drugs sought to be imported from a foreign country have been manufactured pursuant to an approved new drug application, in the manufacturing facility permitted under the application, such drugs would appear to be unapproved new drugs subject to FDA enforcement action.

The use of FDA resources to provide comprehensive coverage of unapproved new drugs imported for personal use is generally not justified, however, the agency developed guidance in its Regulation Procedures Manual (RPM) entitled “Coverage of Personal Importations” (copy enclosed). This guidance sets forth the agency’s enforcement priorities related to the personal importation of unapproved new drugs, with enforcement being focused on products apparently intended for the commercial market and on fraudulent products and those that pose an unreasonable health risk. The guidance recognizes that circumstances may exist where, for example, a person has begun treatment with an unapproved drug in a foreign country or suffers from a condition for which there exists no FDA approved treatment. If such circumstances can be substantiated, as the text of the guidance quoted below notes, the guidance suggests that refraining from taking action against the illegal importation, in the exercise of enforcement discretion, may be appropriate. The guidance document is not, however, a license for individuals to import unapproved (and therefore illegal) drugs for personal use into the U.S., and even if all the factors noted in the guidance are present, the drugs remain illegal and FDA may decide that such drugs should be refused entry or seized. Similarly, the factors noted in the guidance, and documentation that should be obtained from individuals importing the drugs, are not mandatory requirements. They are intended to guide FDA enforcement discretion and should not be represented as binding requirements. The statements in the RPM are intended only to provide operating guidance for FDA personnel and are not intended to create or confer any rights, privileges, or benefits on or for any private person.

That said, FDA’s guidance for coverage of personal importations of unapproved drugs identifies several factors that should be considered by FDA personnel when determining whether to exercise enforcement discretion and refrain from taking action against the importation of unapproved drugs. The General Guidance Section states that FDA should consider not taking enforcement actions against such importation:

“when 1) the intended use [of the drug] is unapproved and for a serious condition for which effective treatment may not be available domestically either through commercial or clinical means; 2) there is no known commercialization or promotion to persons residing in the U.S. by those involved in the distribution of the product at issue; 3) the product is considered not to represent an unreasonable risk; and 4) the individual seeking to import the product affirms in writing that it is for the patient’s own use (generally not more than 3 month supply) and provides the name and address of the doctor licensed in the U.S. responsible for his or her treatment with the product or provides evidence that the product is for the continuation of a treatment begun in a foreign country.” (Emphasis added)

The above guidance does not specify that a U.S. citizen may import an unapproved drug only with a prescription from a U.S. licensed physician, or that a foreign citizen may import an unapproved new drug only with a foreign prescription. Rather, to ensure that the importation is for personal use only (and not for resale), and to ensure that the use of the unapproved new drug sought to be imported into the U.S. is supervised and does not represent an unreasonable risk, the guidance provides that the individual affirm in writing that the drug is for his or her personal use, and provide either the name and address of the U.S. licensed physician who will supervise its use or some evidence that the treatment was begun in a foreign country and that the drugs are being imported to continue/conclude the already begun treatment. Thus, while not the only documentation, either a U.S. or foreign prescription, along with an affirmation of personal use, could be supplied as evidence that this factor exists.

The guidance also provides that the importation should generally not represent more than a 3 month supply of the unapproved products. The purpose for this provision is in keeping with the intent that the guidance relate to only drugs for personal use, not commercial distribution. As the document sets forth only guidance, the 3 month limitation is not a “requirement” or a “restriction.” If an individual presents evidence that he or she requires more than a 3 month supply for the full treatment of his or her illness, and it appears that the reordering of a one or two month additional amount may be inappropriate, FDA may consider the release of the full amount. Similarly, if a foreign traveler to the U.S. seeks to import unapproved drugs during his or her stay in the U.S., the amount sought to be imported should represent the amount needed for personal use during the U.S. visit. Where the evidence appears to indicate that the drugs may be imported for commercial distribution, the guidance provides that FDA should refuse admission of such drugs.

It must be emphasized that the intent of the personal use importation guidance is to save FDA resources and to generally permit, through the exercise of enforcement discretion, medical treatments sought by individuals that are not otherwise available in the United States (where such treatments are not promoted/commercialized in the U.S.). Thus, foreign-made chemical versions of drugs available in the U.S. are not intended to be covered by the policy. For example, a person may decide that his or her FDA approved heart medication is cheaper in Mexico, and attempt to import the unapproved version of the drug from Mexico. FDA cannot assure that such products have been properly manufactured and are effective; therefore, given that such products are available in the U.S., their use would present an unreasonable risk and the guidance would not apply (unless the person seeking their importation could establish that the drugs were needed to refill a prescription while traveling or were otherwise needed while traveling).

Likewise, a drug such as Valium is available in the U.S. and, as such, a foreign-made version of the U.S. approved drug would not generally be considered a candidate to be permitted entry under the guidance. However, because the United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) may have specific requirements that apply to the importation of controlled substances such as Valium, FDA’s guidance on personal importations specifically provides that controlled substances should be returned to Customs for handling.

FDA will not approve a particular form or format for information to accompany personal use shipments, or approve any scheme proposed to facilitate the importation of an unapproved new drug, because to do so would be to imply that such importation meets FDA’s personal importation guidance and is legally permitted.

Congress has the power to determine which articles may be permitted importation into the United States from a foreign source and the terms upon which the importation will occur. An article subject to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act is still in “interstate commerce” even if it is purchased before being shipped across state lines. This is true even if the article is intended solely for personal consumption. Therefore, the Act properly regulates personal articles imported into the United States for personal consumption. The Act also prohibits the importation into the United States of any unapproved new drug.

We appreciate that there is a significant cost differential between drugs available here and those in other countries. However, many drugs sold in foreign countries as “foreign versions” of approved prescription drugs sold in the United States are often of unknown quality with inadequate directions for use and may pose a risk to the patient’s health. FDA approves a drug on the basis of scientific data proving it to be safe and effective. FDA approved labeling provides information on how and when the drug can be used to maximize effectiveness and minimize any harmful side effects. The manufacturing facilities and procedures for approved products are also carefully regulated by FDA to ensure product integrity. Since FDA cannot assure the consumer that the drug purchased in the foreign country would be the same product his or her physician’s prescription is written for, we recommend the product covered by the prescription be acquired in the United States.

drafted: Marvin A. Blumberg, HFC-170, 4/3/98

Thunder said it best. He has a knack for short one liners that cut right to the point.

The rest of us are windy. :)

It’s nice to know our stolen tax dollars are being used to pay agents to watch out for things such as imported Viagra. Imagine what could happen if that were to slip through to a free trading American.

mjollnir,

Where’s the link for that?

I appreciate all the responses guys.I threw the what was it again?away.I’m not going to respond to it or even act like I ever got it.Since the charges were reversed on my credit card,I could always claim one of my children ordered it,and I cancelled when I found out.Wait,I don’t have any kids!

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