Steroids and PE exersizes

I was wondering if using testosterone and tren would be benificial with my penis exercises? I’m on cycle right now..
So far my routine just consist of manual stretching, then jelqs. I used to do the warm wraps but found myself skipping it. Now I just slap the shit out of it to get the blood flowing, lol.
Anyways, any advice or anything would be awsome.. Can you over-train like you can in workingout?
Someone help me out with a routine please if you can?
Right now my cycle includes test 100mg/eod tren 100mg/eod and 6 iu’s gh /eod if anyone on here is familiar with any of that stuff. I must say, I have read a bit here, and see that you guys go out of your way to help newbs like myself, and thats really cool. The forums I belong to, we arnt as .. Umm user friendly to newbs, lol.

Thanks guys.

Oh ya, sorry, my goals would be a bit of both, length and girth.. If I had to pick one over another I would say girth.

Look up. See the thread that is right above your thread in the Newbie Forum? Start there.

Welcome to the forums.

Oh ya, sorry.. I actually was on here like 7 months ago and read that sticky.. Sorry I totally forgot about it..

What about the steroids thing.. Think it will help gains?

No. But at least you will get buff.

I’ve heard from one guy that gh improved vascularity in his dick (among other places), so that could be a plus :)

I dislike my veiny penis, lol.

The same goes for my body - I would hate to have veiny muscles - I would stop exercising. But obviously thats just my opinion and there are some women out there that like it (although I think them women are odd).

Anyway, as I_M said, they won’t help for penis gains.

hollywood..The tren has prgestogenic effects much like deca and can lower your libido and kill errections.The test isn’t as bad,however your dick only needs so much in order to convert to DHT which is critical for quality errections and support of penis ultrastructure.Too much test can be counter-productive,as it can aromatize to estrogen and effect libido,unless your using an anti-e like arimidex(anastrazole).

The GH may work..mixed revues as to whether it has potential to increase PE gains via cell proliferation and hypertrophy(enlargement) of cells.It definitely is great for recovering microdamage after intense PE sessions..Good luck.

No, it wont affect gains.

I hope youre going to do some PCT though ;)

Thanks guys, and yes I’m using arimidex, because I get bad water retention, and I also have nolva on hand. I will be doing pct which will include hcg, nolva, clomid, b12, and gh. Been on gh for over a year now.. I’m lucky, it’s prescribed and on insurance. In my opinion I don’t think gh would be worth the money even tho I could get ahold of it for $260/100 iu. Theres more you could do with you money.. Now if I were older, say in my 50’s it would be diffrent. Reviews have been the same for that igf-1 , not worth it unless older aged. I’m just babbling now.. Thanks guys.

Oh man, I just want to say that why isnt your nickname holywood? Instead of hollywood, how could you have missed that :P

Why are you doing your GH eod? You should be taking it 5on 2off, this is the most benefical way in taking it. Are you taking Prop as your test, because you said your are taking 100mg eod? To get the most out of the GH your going to have to add Slin.
From what I have read from people that haved used IGF is that it works better then GH. And alot less exspensive, because you only run it 4wks at a time.

Are you looking to bulk or lean out. Because all you really need is really no more then 4iu’s of GH to learn up. For bulking you need more and 6iu’s is pretty much were you would start.

But taking GH for 1yr you should have seen some really nice results, if not muscle at least apperence, better joints, better sense of well being, much better looking skin. But then again I don’t know how young you are. This does make a big difference.

If you don’t mind me asking what brand of gear are you taking especially the Tren. I figure your taking TrenA since your doing it eod.

Last time I took tren it was TrenE, love it.

Last cycle was:

750mg’s Sus wk
500mg’s TrenE wk
500mg’s EQ wk
60mg’s Winny ed.

The thing I like the best out of this cycle was that I gain about 12lbs pretty fast then I was still getting bigger but the scale stayed the same, tren is good for that.

My next cycle might look like this, not sure yet.

1,000mg’s Sus wk
500mg’s TrenE wk
600mg’s EQ wk
50mg’s Anavar ed

Close to what I previously took. But I never did var and wanted to try it.

Micro

Well I’ve tried gh numerous ways, and found eod to work best for me. Igf-1 is not better than gh, that is compete nonsence posted by people that can’t afford real gh. You get more benifits from gh than just the spike it put in your igf-1 levels.

The tren I’m taking is acetate, and prop for the test. I am a huge fan of shorter esters for alot of reasons. The way I react to tren and test combo is insane, I gain alot, but alot of water as well.. I would gain 2 lbs everyday and by week 2 look like a watermelon. Thats why I add the A dex. As far as brands go, I’m taking humotrope gh, and an underground lab for the Test and tren. I love tren, the only thing I don’t like is how fast the strength gains come on.. Cause sometimes I forget that just because my muscles are ready for the weight, doesnt mean my joints and ligaments are.. Oh and I don’t get ance anywhere accept I will get 2-3 huge fucking pimples right on my damn nose! This time I got a script for tetrecycline and diffrin gel.. Helped alot, not I only have 1 pimple there lol.

You need to run at least 150mg Prop if you are running it only EOD, it needs to be higher than the tren to not shut you down, besides 300mg prop per week is nothing

Every time this has been asked, I’ve been giving out the same response, but I’ll do it once again… Anabolics in general tend to enstrenghten all kinds of tissues in your body, including ligaments. Higher testosterone levels in your body alone will do that. Not good. Definitely not going to make getting lenght gains easier as the primary principle there is controlled breakdown, as in all kinds of stretching. Somebody please correct me if I’m wrong.

I haven’t seen any studies where androgens like tren or test cause ligaments to become stronger. There’s few if any androgen receptors(AR) in ligaments. Steroids likely won’t help you with your PE gains, the reason being that the AR are downregulated in penile tissue. This happens during puberty for reasons unknown. TGF-beta1 supposedly can cause downregualtion of these AR. TGF-beta1 exists in significantly higher concentrations in penile tissues as opposed to prostate tissues. Therefore there are more ARs in the prostate tissue and why it tends to experience hypertrophy when running test since it converts to DHT. Whether TGF-beta1 is the rate limiting factor in growth I can’t say but it seems plausible.

Coincidentally tamoxifen has been shown to inhibit TGF-beta1 thus perhaps increasing ARs in tissues. Since you have other things for PCT you might try running the nolva at 40mg/day through your cycle to see if it might potentially help. But I believe that to get hte concetrations necessary to inhibit TGF-beta1 in penile tissues you might have to inject it.