Originally Posted by djufo
Like I said before, I do not react with “feelings”; that is what lead humans to errors and unmeasured reactions, like for example making a big deal about an herb that most likely is not gonna cause people any problem.
Don’t kid yourself, your defensive tone and your somewhat irrational need to be right regardless of any facts is entirely emotionally driven.
Originally Posted by djufo
And let’s clarify one thing: I haven’t insulted any moderator here at all.
Umm… Unfortunatelly common sense is not that common in humans. is clearly a shot at RootCap. Just because you didn’t call him by name doesn’t mean the implication escapes the rest of us.
Originally Posted by djufo
Not because I am arguing with somebody that is trying to falsely convince the public with unfounded information, means that I am offending somebody. And to be honest with you, I don’t care at all if the person on the other side is a moderator or a mesiah; I am using reason, critical thinking and common sense; logic is undeniable.
Well reasoned logic is undeniable. I wouldn’t deny that. I haven’t seen any evidence of that from you, though.
Mostly what I’ve seen is your chest-beating assertions that you’re correct and everyone that disagrees with you is wrong. You’ve offered no proof; you demanded someone else provide you with a study, and repeated variations on “I’m right and you’re wrong.”
Just because you say “I’m right and you’re wrong” doesn’t mean it’s true. And the more you say it without any sort of back-up the less true it sounds.
FYI: no one owes you a study. If you want proof for your side of the argument the burden of proof is on you: positive proof. When you say “Show me a study that proves this” that’s a straw-man argument; it asks someone to prove a negative.
It’s what we call in debate a fallacy, and it doesn’t wash.
Originally Posted by djufo
Regarding the wrong approach to a discussion thread, that’s a totally different issue in which case under your judgement is wrong, and I take it as an advise, and again, NOT because you are a moderator.
Advice. The word is advice. ‘Advise’ is a verb.
Regarding the advice I offered you: it’s free - do with it what you will. However I’ll add to it: because I’m a moderator it’s more than simply advice, it’s a reminder; a warning even. My judgment on that point is not wrong as moderators are here for the purpose of making judgments on how members interact.
If you continue to push your luck my judgment, and the judgment of the other moderators, are the judgments that count.
Originally Posted by djufo
I can see you two are talking through PM so tell him to not “insult” me, saying that I make false and irresponsible statements.
Honestly? I don’t think you see much of anything. Root and I haven’t PM’d each other in months.
Saying someone’s statement is false, while possibly disappointing, is not insulting.
In terms of the issue of yohimbe, if you were paying attention, you’d see that my opinion on the subject is closer to yours than to RootCap’s. I would say that risks of taking 100 mg of 2% yohimbe is relatively safe for most people. I would also submit that benefits of it are minor as well.
Which is why this Super Goat Weed supplement can be sold in a supermarket.
However, the side effects for some people are more than that of strong cup of coffee (which is about what yohimbe’s usually worth at the 2% strength), and therefore RootCap’s advisory is well taken and, more importantly, not in the least bit wrong.
Originally Posted by djufo
And since this thread is completely out of topic, which is irresponsible, I believe is better to take this conversation to private messages for respect to other users. Any further information regarding the original thread would be very helpfull if it is backed up by trusted information from the net, and not by simple emotions. :)
I like the way you use the word ‘simple’, it seems appropriate somehow.
However, there is value in having a discussion with a difficult person in a thread; that way others can see in such posts the clear example of what not to do in a discussion.
If I were you I’d think about dialing back the attitude djufo. The membership you save might well be your own. :leftie: