The Chemical PE Thread

Well I started at like under 7.25 now Im a hair under 8 in length, I started out at like 4.85 in girth and now I am at like 5.25 to 5.5 in spots. I have not been as consistent at this lately as I would like to be, but life changes as we all know. I will continue as I can. As supply and money allow. Right now I have a sparked interest in what effect increasing elastin content in the TA might do or in the penis overall, what effect PE would have on a penis with a higher percentage of elastin content, or a ratio or elastin to collagen where elastin is far higher then normal. If such a state can be achieved what effects might it have on the process of PE.

Great info on Elastin, Inuic. Seems like it could be a helpful addition, for sure. I too, shall look into it.

Speaking of collagen, I’ve always been intrigued about using various MMPs to possibly break it down. Should be easy enough to figure out what types of collagen make up certain penile structures and then acquire the corresponding MMP (as different types break down/effect different collagen types), no? Only issue would be how to dose it and the method of application. (My bad if I may have posted this exact thing in this thread already, btw.)

Yep MMPs are on my to do list as well… I think MMP9 might be one I have considered.

Inuic

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Saw this on one of the other forums:

I think this may be down to either a lack of elastin in my TA, or more likely a high level of cross linking between elastin, resulting in a loss of elasticity. I don’t know of any way to increase elastin content in the TA, but I am looking at using the cross link breaker Aminoguanidine, along with some supplement to slow the formation of cross links there.

Has anyone tried anything like this before and can offer any advice?

If you’re going to supplement with ALC as mentioned above, please ensure you also co-supplement with R Alpha Lipoic Acid, (It MUST be the R type). ALC promotes fat burning, if you’re not running a ketogenic diet your system will produce increased free radicals that the RALA will mop up.

Will go onto the L- Carnitine. How much should I take

Isn’t this increased free radical thing a matter of ALC dosage ? I mean if I take ~1 g of ALCAR/day I don’t think I need to take anything special to counter any possible free radicals increase.

inuic,

Have you tried injecting after pumping ? I get very good expansion with hot water pumping so I think that by injecting afterwards I could maintain an induced prolonged erection with the added girth from pumping. The thing is I don’t know if the 1/2 inch needle will be enough to penetrate any possible subskin swelling to reach the cc.

My understanding is increasing alc beyond baseline preferentially has fats burned before other substrates in the mitochondrial/krebbs cycle.. this is fine in people who are already doing this, I.e. ketogenic diet..

For “sugar” burners the alc increases free radical production, hence the Rala requirement..

Please give advice on the L-Carnatine.

Guys,

Not yet sure on dosage for the L-C, but when I know more I will post. I am considering direct injection into the glans penis. To see it this improves sensitivity. My Penimaster puts a heavy load on my glans. As well as it seem generally supportive of the PE process at large.

AS for this: alin

“Have you tried injecting after pumping ? I get very good expansion with hot water pumping so I think that by injecting afterwards I could maintain an induced prolonged erection with the added girth from pumping. The thing is I don’t know if the 1/2 inch needle will be enough to penetrate any possible subskin swelling to reach the cc”

I have indeed tried this and is a favored method, the needle makes it in no prob because it just indents to the surface of the inner TA then its just past that and pop, your in. I think the warm water may help with the process as its not as constrictive and the tissue is more expanded and soft from the warmth. In this state its easy to get the needle in.

One thing I do to now more often is I inject just prior to a warm water pump, and I have a constriction ring on while doing so. So while the PGE-1 takes hold I start the process. I also often take my other peptides as I gain erection so that any micro tears I form may directly use any newly availed receptors in the micro tears. All while warm and fully expanded and with a constriction ring on. Then when I get out of the tube and take off the pump the engorgement is maxed and I have peptides as trapped in as I can.

Then sometimes I take a sub ridged dose of the PGE-1 to get a soft chubby, then pump with the ring and when I get out maxed and warm and then apply my penimaster which constricts from the tip and while expanded I have constriction at the base of my penis and at the base of the glans, then I inject the peptides to trap them from above and below. Then during all this I apply the tension belt or traction device sometimes, but mostly the belt.

So I go freestyle and mix disciplines of girth and length work along with pumping and ChemPE. As well as any other stuff I can eclectically apply, like electro therapy, etc, etc.

Inuic

Also I like a feature of my phallosan that has a full length condom to cover the whole length of the shaft, this helps trap heat and keep it warm. But the head piece sucks because its to hard and can constrict blood flow and do damage. Takes weeks to recover. The Penimaster has a far superior head piece, but has no full length sleeve. The rubber helps keep warmth and moister in. I like to use lotions with growth factors. I wish the penimaster had that feature. But stretching before the heated water bath pumping session is also a great helper, because I am all warm and stretchy soft, then I heat up with the water bath, I sometimes hit the peptides before and sometimes after, depending on how I feel. I do the PGE-1 first, the after harder I use the mesotherapy method at 30 degree injections at 2 to 4 millimeters. My hope is to pierce the TA and not go through it [sometimes I do] but when I don’t I hope it will partly go into the TA then spill out onto the TA surface just under the penis skin. So I hope to have achieve micro tears during the day stretching then again from the pump, then trap blood and peptides after from above and below, then stretch some more via the penimaster after if I don’t get to erect, depending. I mix up my methods. I just wish the penismaster had a full sleeve like the phallosan to help trap all the heat from the water pumping. Also so I could slip in some growth factors in a lotion under the rubber sleeve. But for now that’s not possible without making my own modifications out of penismaster and phallosan parts. I have taken apart and repaired my phallosan several times. I think I could attach the sleeve if I has another spare head piece for my penimaster.

Getting ready to get back into a full swing, got some 1mg IGF-1 LR3 on the way, thusly I have been using the 100mcg concentration. Also got some HGH on the way as well. Still got the ACE to try, as well as some BCP but not sure if that will really help but it may help with inflammation. Going to mix up some TB500 as well. DHT gel would and does go well while under the sleeve, but I will use it anyway even with just the penimaster.

Inuic

The belt for the phallosan is also better, with the nice comfort ring. Also I am thinking about using the elastin producing peptides in my mix up soon. I theorize that greater elastin content will aid the process. I think allowing for more stretch out potential, thus leaving more room for expansion and room to keep it in that state via my previously mentioned methods. No elastin shrinks the penis too, so it may stand to reason that more of it will allow it to do the reverse. EXPAND. Keep it there longer to simulate the process that stimulates a megaphallos. Like with sickle cell. When young if you have sickle cell you get it while you have loads of elastin in newer tissue, expand during this phase and presto you have the magic mix. All that can be done past that is simulate that process as closely as possible. I think cross link breakers like MMP might help too, or others mentioned too like “Aminoguanidine” I intend to look more into.

Inuic

If anyone knows where or how to source some verapamil please message me.

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“Aminoguanidine” hmm? inhibits NO production??? Mixed bag….

Inuic