Viagra/Cialis mg's and pricing?

C gives me better wood at 20mgs then V at 100mgs. V has little effect on me, besides turning me red with skin flush and making me congested. I wish I could get C that’s duration is 8 hours like V.

AG-guys is stupid over priced.

Ulc,

Are you having PE related erection problems, too?

So you find that you are more sensitive to C than V?

Anyone else find that they are much more receptive to on than the other. Wouldn’t want to make a bulk buy and find that something doesn’t work for me very much at all…

Although the quote from this article* from the Levitra thread says that receptivity-wise, they should be interchangeable. The only real difference being preference for duration and side-effects.

*Also, if you didn’t have success with Viagra, it’s doubtful that Levitra will work any better, says Lipshultz. "I don’t think we’re going to see people who fail one drug do a whole lot better on another drug. I think where the difference will be — if any — is onset of action, duration of action, and side effects."

Are you saying that C lasts too long for your preferences, because the official line is 36hrs for C, but actual users are saying that it last even longer for them?

Or am I missing something?

I have. Hanging does a number.

C, no contest.

Ok, with both meds, I get the effect (erection increase) and side effects (headache, skin flush, conjestion, etc)

I get the headache and flush with v and c, but more intensly with v.
C, I get sides, they are not as bad, but last for over 2 damn says.
I don’t want to feel like crap for 2 days when my PE routine is only 1 hour.

Aren’t well all….

Ok, I think I get it, but lemme see?

You get more intense negative side-effects with V, so you use C. But C gives side-effects that last several days - just not a severe. Is that it?

Also isn’t one or all of these supposed to cause muscle or back aches*? I don’t wanna do any drug comparisons this late.. I ask because I have been having unbelievable tightness and cramps in my right hamstring - so much that I cannot find a comfortable position to lay in for very long, despite the fact that I have a meeting in the morning.

The hamstring tightness is not completely uncommon for me if I don’t keep them stretched out semi-regularly. But usually I am able to attribute it to something or some activity - this time I can’t. But if muscle aches go with V, that might explain it.

Also, I did have a bit of a headache. At first I didn’t think it was anything unusual, but with the combination of the hammy tightness - just maybe it is all V related?

But on the upside, I didn’t get any flushing that others describe. But again, I only took ~25mg, and this pill supposedly expired in ‘04. So maybe that affected the effects somewhat - who knows?

* I am pretty sure I read that about one of them. And if it applies to one, it probably applies to all. I read that V and C have a tendency to create a bluish tint to the vision, although that didn’t happen to me. But this supposedly doesn’t happen with Levitra…

Also, I forgot this:

So for you, C effectively combats the hanging related, fatigue induced ED? Without any really negative side-effects, that you notice - other than the relatively minor side-effects that are normally associated with ED drugs?

For me, cialis works much slower than viagra but lasts much longer. I used to hang 3-4 inches, but with informal jelqing and cialis, it’s usually 5-6 in. My boners are up from 7 to 8 in.

I spelled out the pluses of each. I like them both like I said. I like to take Cialis as an occasional boost, and keep a viagra handy for a spontaneous encounter where I want 110% performance.

Delayed orgasm is a beneficial effect for me. Without that, the race between V and C leans more toward C.

I never tried 5mg. 10 gives me a good effect, and 15 or 20 gives me much more noticable side effects (pounding heart, head ache, stuffy nose).

I think it is overall beneficial for healing. I don’t PE that hard to worry about masking damage, but I think there would be other indicators that would tell you that you are over-training, even if you are taking an ED drug.

A final thought. Different people have different reactions, as you can tell by Ulcasters comments vs. mine. Ideally you could get a sample pack from a doc, to try each kind, and Levitra too. Or you could buy some of each. I like having a supply of both V and C, for reasons mentioned above.

That’s it.

Also correct.

Thanks Ulc.

For guys who are Pe’ing with Ed drugs in their system, how are the length gains coming along?

I have read about guys who use ED drugs as a part of their girth routines, but I am not focused on girth at the moment. I am in a length faze.

So does having ED drugs in the system, at a fairly steady rate, hinder length gains, that anyone has noticed to any degree?

That is a good idea. Have you tried this?

And if so, did you have to go through a check up first? I think a Doc would want to do that since some guys aren’t compatible with ED drugs altogether, either because of a weak heart that couldn’t take the rigors of sex, or other drugs that wouldn’t go well w/ the ED meds.

But if it is possible to finagle some ED samples either online or without a major check up, I’m cool with it. Even if I have to have a check up, I guess it would be worth it if my PCP offers the samples. If not, and I have to go to a Specialist (Urologist) I don’t see my insurance approving the referral…

I was able to try these drugs because I live near a mexican border town and can go buy them without too much trouble. If you have a doctor you can confide in, just tell him you have had a little trouble and would like a sample of these drugs you have heard so much about. I bet he has a drawer full of them. Normally there are not too many contra-indications to taking them, as long as you have good bp, aren’t taking nitrates, don’t have a history of heart trouble etc. I bet you can walk out of his office with few pills. Or you can go to Viagra.com and they used to have a simple questionare about your health and sex life. Answer those questions right, and bring in the printed copy to your doc.

Most insurance doesn’t cover ed drugs, so you will still end up buying them elicitly, since it is cheaper. So when you buy, I would buy C and V. Sometimes V is just what I want. I quick boost for one encounter. Sometimes C is perfect: added confidence over a period of days. Why choose between them if you can have both?

I was at kitsnmore and saw that I could get 10g of powdered V for $119.00 vs 10 100mg pills from drugstore.com at $99.99. Which, if I can get by with ~25mg a dose, I could get 400 doses at kitsnmore vs 40 at drugstore.com, for only $20.00 more.

But I would have to get a scale. A scale that measures down to 2mg’s is $99.97. Which overall is a good deal for 400 doses. With the combined price of powdered V and a scale, I would only get 80 doses for a similar price at drugstore.com.

But all this causes me to need to ask, what is the shelf life for this stuff? If it goes bad before I use it, then it isn’t a deal.

Also, I didn’t see any liquid V at kitsnmore. Where is everyone getting the liquid V? That would eliminate the scale stuff altogether.

Another thought on the liquid ED products, that is taken orally, right? Or is this stuff supposed to be injected?

Orally = ok. Injected = bad, for me.

Orally.

I have tried V for use several times for “superman” occasions and I found it worked great, even better, after a few drinks. My question is, where is the best online places to buy v in the pill or liquid form, that does not require a prior prescription? And who has the best prices?