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Going from 4.5 EG to 5 EG, is this the tipping point?

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Going from 4.5 EG to 5 EG, is this the tipping point?

Gents, I was at 4.25 EG this time last year, I’m at 4.5-4.7 EG now but can reach 5 EG with a cockring easily. I know many men wish for 5.5 EG - 6 EG. My question is, did you notice that the biggest impact happened between 4.5 to 5, 5 to 5.5, or 5.5 to 6 in bed?

I ask because, yes, many here all want a 6 EG however I noticed a huge difference in sex reaction from wifey going from 4.5 EG to 5 EG. Although I know you can get even more girth to satisfy more, I believe that the biggest reaction is having a 5 EG.

I hope it makes sense what I am asking the men here who have had both sizes. If you are at 4.5 EG and you go to 5 EG you will see a drastic difference and going from 5 to 5.5 will give you a boost but it won’t be as extreme as it was 4.5 to 5 (that is my assumption). I guess what I am saying is that in my opinion, 5 EG is the minimum to get the biggest reaction.

More can be great, but the majority of women would be completely satisfied with 5 EG. Other than a size queen can anyone say that 5 EG was not enough and then going to 5.5 you got a huge reaction from wifey? Can we make 5 EG the first magic number in PE objectives? I am proposing that 5 EG is the tipping point.

EG might be easier to validate than length. With Length some of us here are not sure if to completely satisfy our woman we need to be at 6.5 up to 7.5 BPEL, that’s a large spread. It seems like Length can be tricky to nail down a preferred size but can we all agree on 5 EG, yes/no?

This would validate this report of the 3D penis models, on girth: We Talked to the Scientist Who Just Discovered the Perfect Penis
The women—who were told that the theoretical man attached to these potential penises was "kind, intelligent, funny, and has a great job"—generally selected a penis around 6.3" long and 4.8" around for dating, and 6.4" long, 5" around for a one-nighter.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

Nice gains dude! How did you achieve this? I made great length gains hanging with FIRe, but only maybe 1/8" EG gain. I think even 1/8" is noticable by a women. I’m still "stealth", so when she mentions it, I compliment her on her Kegels routine. I have always been 6"EG and we have had kids so, I’m shooting for 8"x7".

Jelq for 9 months and then Water Pump + Jelq. What size are you with a cock ring on?

When I was Stealth I complimented her on her heels! I’m out of Stealth and have a post on that, overall she has accepted that I have to pump for EQ , that my age is life and I’m not going to be ashamed of it. A year ago, I would have never even considered wearing a cock ring, now wifey is 100% on board with it.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

Originally Posted by Bemorethanbig
Gents, I was at 4.25 EG this time last year, I’m at 4.5-4.7 EG now but can reach 5 EG with a cockring easily. I know many men wish for 5.5 EG - 6 EG. My question is, did you notice that the biggest impact happened between 4.5 to 5, 5 to 5.5, or 5.5 to 6 in bed?

I ask because, yes, many here all want a 6 EG however I noticed a huge difference in sex reaction from wifey going from 4.5 EG to 5 EG. Although I know you can get even more girth to satisfy more, I believe that the biggest reaction is having a 5 EG.

I hope it makes sense what I am asking the men here who have had both sizes. If you are at 4.5 EG and you go to 5 EG you will see a drastic difference and going from 5 to 5.5 will give you a boost but it won’t be as extreme as it was 4.5 to 5 (that is my assumption). I guess what I am saying is that in my opinion, 5 EG is the minimum to get the biggest reaction.

More can be great, but the majority of women would be completely satisfied with 5 EG. Other than a size queen can anyone say that 5 EG was not enough and then going to 5.5 you got a huge reaction from wifey? Can we make 5 EG the first magic number in PE objectives? I am proposing that 5 EG is the tipping point.

EG might be easier to validate than length. With Length some of us here are not sure if to completely satisfy our woman we need to be at 6.5 up to 7.5 BPEL, that’s a large spread. It seems like Length can be tricky to nail down a preferred size but can we all agree on 5 EG, yes/no?

This would validate this report of the 3D penis models, on girth: We Talked to the Scientist Who Just Discovered the Perfect Penis
The women—who were told that the theoretical man attached to these potential penises was "kind, intelligent, funny, and has a great job"—generally selected a penis around 6.3" long and 4.8" around for dating, and 6.4" long, 5" around for a one-nighter.

I use a hydro pump often to get a little more girth for sex. I notice that with the extra girth, I can go slower, more relaxed, stay simulated more easy, finish easier and it feels better for me too. I am also aware that if I go too hard, she can get sore more easy and that can lead to days off of sex and discomfort to her. Going slower and more easier frees me up to do more also. Kiss her neck, mouth. Use my hands to touch her body. I’m so focused on just pumping otherwise.

Currently, a pump can get me to as much as 5 1/2” EG. without, I am more around 5”. There are even times I get 4 3/4” under the glands, that’s after maybe a stretching routine, but I feel like I can’t get enough stimulation when that happens, and have to go harder and/or faster to maintain EQ. I don’t like that feeling.

My goals right now are length mainly and then I will work on girth after that. I would like to cement 5 1/2 EG eventually. As of right now, 6” EG isn’t apart of the plan. But I guess I will see as I get closer to that number. I honestly feel like 5 3/4” is a good goal.

I started at 4.625”MEG almost 6 years ago. I’ve been stuck at 5”MEG for almost 3 years. Although lately I’ve been 5.125”MEG fairly consistently.(workout day’s)

I always wear a ring for fun times. Which puts me at 5.125”- 5.25” MEG during sex. There’s no doubt I can tell a difference in her reactions during sex. Much louder/animated. That really turns me on.

Whether 5” is the magical number, I don’t know. But, I would think if she likes it better at 5”, she would like 5.5”MEG even more. That’s my goal. So I keep putting in the work, hoping to cement that next.125”. I’m definitely due.

I think most of my gains came from clamping. Once I got my pump, I got away from clamping. Just last week I made a commitment to focus on clamping. Hopefully it gets me there.


Start 8/15/18-BPEL-6.75” MEG-4.625”

2/17/20-BPEL-7.125” MEG-5”

Goal- 8”x5.5”

+1Lookinforgirth, some men here sound like overall they are very happy with 5 EG but want more. I think the underline thing here is that at 4.25-4.75 we don’t hear as many stories about being in that erogenous zone but after 5 there is something that changes and we want it to keep it going

Maybe it is what is not said during 4.25-4.75 but what is said after 5, with that being the proposed tipping point for the majority of women.

I think I wrote this because there might be some at 5 right now but don’t feel they are enough. For the most part, you are there!
For others, they don’t think they will get that huge response until after 5.5 to 6 but I wanted to tell them from experience that 5 is the minimum to get that erogenous zone, OMG, open mouth face from wifey. Minus size queens of course.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

Originally Posted by Bemorethanbig
+1Lookinforgirth, some men here sound like overall they are very happy with 5 EG but want more. I think the underline thing here is that at 4.25-4.75 we don’t hear as many stories about being in that erogenous zone but after 5 there is something that changes and we want it to keep it going

Maybe it is what is not said during 4.25-4.75 but what is said after 5, with that being the proposed tipping point for the majority of women.

I think I wrote this because there might be some at 5 right now but don’t feel they are enough. For the most part, you are there!
For others, they don’t think they will get that huge response until after 5.5 to 6 but I wanted to tell them from experience that 5 is the minimum to get that erogenous zone, OMG, open mouth face from wifey. Minus size queens of course.

Good points here. Yes after 5” EG, it is definitely a spot to be at to please a woman more easily. I’ve been under 5” for most my life until the last few years. I do want to add that part of my girth goals does have to do with wanting to be one of the biggest my wife has had. I don’t know, I’ve never asked for specifics, but I want to be up there. I don’t need to be the actually huge, because that would probably create issues… but I think 5.5” would make me happy and content. I have pushed up to 5.5” pumping and her reactions were positive. If I were able to get to 5.5” EG then I can always pump for more if I felt like we could have a night that’s extra spicy. But I would also not be committed to being over that. I don’t know, I guess we will see.

5.75” EG Pumped

I hit 5.75” EG today after moderately pumping and also wearing a cock ring! I usually have a hard time finding a ring that is comfortable enough for sex. But today I had a small cut piece of silicone sleeve and I tried that. It’s one flat smallest diameter size from totalman. I had it cut into a 1” strip. But I folded it in half so there wouldn’t be any edges to catch during penetration. It worked great and I never got such a girthy erection

I do have thicker parts of my penis, especially after pumping due to foreskin. At the thickest point today, I measured 5.75” EG. In order to keep the skin from moving and bundling up at the base during penetration, I used a well lubricated condom to help hold it in place. It worked.

The reason I bring it up here is because my wife loved it. It wasn’t uncomfortable to her and she said her orgasm lasted pretty much the entire time. Must of lasted at least 25 minutes straight. If it weren’t for kids, we would probably last longer, but sometimes we need to get it done before we want to. She did tap-out tonight though as I was finishing. Probably from that last moment max EQ we typically get as we cum. Lots of lubrication and going slow and easy. Even then, I can tell she was feeling good and I wasn’t working as hard as normal. She just recently started a women’s libido/hormone balance supplement and I think that maybe helped some. I can tell because before she had to leave for an hour, I was going down on her and her clit was more aroused/engorged than normal. It’s typically harder to get there, I think due to incomplete desire, even when I try to work up to it.

I posted in this thread already about my usual stats. I also did just start a supplement that is supposed to help with circulation and mood. It’s too early to tell if that played a part. I don’t think this is going to be a frequent thing. It took a lot of work. She was gone for an hour so I had time to do a short manual stretch routine, then pump while I showered. I went for 22minutes instead of my usual 15min. Then before she got home I was experimenting with the sleeve/ring. I wanted to see if it would be effective to edge with. That’s when I noticed how thick it was getting and decided to measure.

It was fun. I still think 5.5 EG is where I want to be. I think she’s going to be sore tomorrow. She always says that it feels good all the way up until we are done, then she can feel that it’s going to get sore. She says it’s uncomfortable and that she has to pee more frequently. I don’t really want our sex to cause that. So far so good tonight though, she says she’s unsure if it will get sore. Usually she can tell right away.

Great news on the Sleeve! I use the TSR c-ring found on Amazon, and it is good on the shaft however a bit too much cut of circulation ( it is the skinniest with the most width I found). I think you are on something, using a piece of a sleeve, because you don’t want the whole thing but it is skinny enough to take off/on and the extra dick girth should make it so that just penis is being felt in the vagina and that 1/2 inch to 1 inch is just length, you know what I mean.

Also note, to give the D a bit of a rest on pump day and c-ring. I use one larger ring over cock and balls and that gets me to a great girth with and without pumping. When I don’t pump I would feel that the c-ring on shaft is fine. Overall I just think if I pump and c-ring on shaft, it is pushing the D too much, if I do that, then it is a more sensual and slow fuck. I’m still working on what works best for me and wifey.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)


Last edited by Bemorethanbig : 03-20-2024 at .

Originally Posted by Bemorethanbig
Great news on the Sleeve! I use the TSR c-ring found on Amazon, and it is good on the shaft however a bit too much cut of circulation ( it is the skinniest with the most width I found). I think you are on something, using a piece of a sleeve, because you don’t want the whole thing but it is skinny enough to take off/on and the extra dick girth should make it so that just penis is being felt in the vagina and that 1/2 inch to 1 inch is just length, you know what I mean.

Yes, finding a good ring is hard. I’ve tried many different ones, and they mostly all may start out good, but get uncomfortable after awhile. Also, I like to see more visible penis and having that ring on, I measured 6 1/2” of NBPEL from my usual 6 1/4”

There wasn’t actually any added length, but the compression sleeve was placed deeper in the fat pad, giving the illusion of more visible length.

I will look into that ring from Amazon you mentioned. There is a ring on Facebook ads that keeps popping up, it peaks my interest but no way I am paying $225 for it. It’s shaped to apply pressure in the areas that keep blood from going out while allowing blood in. I think it’s called Eddie by Giddy. Interesting concept but too expensive. Maybe someone can 3D print one.

This is a great question and one I have wondered myself. I think there’s something to be said for 5" being a game changer. I hit 5" MSEG last May but at the same time was around 6.75" BPEL. That was the first time my long term SO made *any* comment. After sex one day she said, "I like your penis" which was just the best.

To add a little more data, I continued to jelq and clamp for several more months…increasing up to 5.125 or more until September when I had residual swelling/edema that put me at 5.5 MSEG. I was thinking, "oh yeah, she’s gonna love this!" But to my surprise, I couldn’t tell any difference in her reaction. I thought for sure it would send her over the moon but nope. Does that mean there’s no difference for her? Of course not, but it wasn’t a 100% "yes, 5.5" elicits a significantly different response than 5."

Now I’m slightly over 5.25" and I can say for sure that the extra girth makes sex more enjoyable FOR ME. I can feel so much more. She feels tighter, which is hot. I continue to stretch, hang, jelq and clamp to gain any way I can and I seem to be one of the weird ones who can gain girth much easier than length. I’ve been trying to break 7" for what feels like forever but it still hasn’t happened. Meanwhile, girth keeps creeping up and sex for me keeps getting better. Shooting for 7.5 by 5.5, just for me.

Originally Posted by DesertDuster
This is a great question and one I have wondered myself. I think there’s something to be said for 5" being a game changer. I hit 5" MSEG last May but at the same time was around 6.75" BPEL. That was the first time my long term SO made *any* comment. After sex one day she said, "I like your penis" which was just the best.

Same stats here, I was at maybe 6.25 BPEL? in May 2023? Not sure but my NBPEL is accurate. But now being at sure 6.7 BPEL I see a difference with EG* included. Meaning,
When I got to 6.7 in Nov 2023 that is when I noticed I could hit the inside A, P/O spot better, especially when she was on top but it was not until I started water pumping these last 4 months and then adding Girth and now the C-Ring that the OMG opened mouth pouting, saying she is getting orgasms with the D, pulling my hips in and out, moaning the YEs, Yes, Yes words is happening with wifey. I have had sex with this woman 1,000 times in 14 years. My hips and movement have not changed, I’m still a bull in bed. The only thing that has changed is my length by 1/2 inch and girth by 1/2 approx with C-ring.

With all that said, Length was getting me to the zone but the girth made the explosion happen inside her. I don’t remember this feeling or her reaction at 4.25-4.75 EG this is all happening at 5 EG.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

The difference in my experience going from 5 EG (with just c-ring or just pump) to 5 1/4 EG (I know I can get to this with a good pump and c-ring) is the comment she gave me last night "It feels like my vagina is swallowing that cock" I feel a big difference between 5 and 5 1/4 its almost like I feel every part of her pussy on the inside, almost like the pussy is grabbing my dick and then the D is just going in and out as if you are masturbating holding your dick in one place but moving your hips and the skin stays in one place. But again, the reaction is not what you would expect even though you are feeling a big difference. Almost as if Wifey feels a big difference to 5 EG and you feel a big difference 5 EG+

With all that said, the biggest reaction I get is going from my natural 4.5 - 4.7 sex to 5 EG sex, after that 5+ it is still good and different but not another level of pouting and moaning response as getting to that first 5 EG.

My objective is still 5.5 EG, and I will report back!


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

Good thread Bemore.


Start 8/15/18-BPEL-6.75” MEG-4.625”

2/17/20-BPEL-7.125” MEG-5”

Goal- 8”x5.5”

This is quickly becoming one of my best Threads, I hope we get more and more data here.


Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

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