Help me understand high testosterone

Peaktestosterone.com is a good resource. Also recommend excelmale.com and allthingsmale.com.

And Defy Medical can be a good resource if you’re unable to find a knowledgable doctor.

What don’t you understand his natural Test has shut down from taking to high of a dose of Test. What don’t you understand? I been around this for 30 years.

What is your exact protocol and dosages? Are you taking an AI?

-Jazz Hands

Not sure what you mean by AI.

I go in weekly for shots. To prevent the shutdown of natural testosterone production they give me a shot of HCG as well. I was doing HCG 3x/week and may go back to that. Honestly, I quit doing it because my wife complained that it made blowjobs taste bad.

AI stands for Aromatase Inhibitor, something like Aromasin, Letrozole, or Arimidex that lowers estrogen by blocking the Aromatase enzyme. If not, I would simply be amazed with your high total Testosterone numbers with your e2 perfectly in range.

Also do you know how many micrograms of HCG you are taking per shot. For me personally, me and my body do not agree with HCG. One it takes my appetite to nill and two it makes my nipples puff and itch like crazy. Also my bloods confirm that HCG gives a false reading of higher estrodiol serum levels. I cut out the HCG from my protocol and it helped greatly. Then again I’m not worried about having children at this point.

Either way, it’s all specific to the individual. Some people love HCG and other people hate it. I for one am the latter.

-Jazz Hands

AI, got it. I’m on 1mg of Arimidex. I am not 100% certain of the HCG dosage, but I believe it is 500mg (in whatever unit conversion that should be). I actually found that I do better with a higher amount than that of HCG on days I get a shot, but it became unaffordable to continue that protocol. They do offer a 1 month supply of HCG for home (3x/week shots), but like I mentioned earlier, my wife was complaining about the taste while giving me blow jobs. But I felt like my testicles were always nice and full taking HCG 3 times a week. I have thought about returning to that protocol soon.

1mg of Arimidex are you serious?

You don’t know wehat your doing and going to make matters worse.

.25 every three days.

What’s the best way to come off?

350 ng/dl for a male in his late 30’s is still considered low and equivalent to that of a 70 year old.

I personally wouldn’t come off because if you’ve been on TRT for any substantial amount of time, you’re most likely going to experience even more problems than while on TRT and especially pre-TRT.

If you do decide to come off, I’d treat it just like that of a steroid cycle’s post-cycle therapy. However depending on the length of your TRT treatment, it might have to have extended times.

Really talk with your prescribing doctor if you want to come off because they will be the best person to help get you to your baseline levels.

If you’re going to do it on your own, you will need to continue the HCG for several weeks before stopping testosterone, then after the testosterone clears (depending on its ester), you would use a combination of a Nolvadex and Clomid.

-Jazz Hands

I didn’t read through this whole thing.

But there is a product I tried recently called i3c with dim.

This is supposed to help cleanse the androgen receptors that Test binds too.

I’ve noticed after taking the i3c w/ dim with a test booster my energy levels increased. And my beard got a bit thicker.

Don’t combine all that with a ton of cialis though haha I made that mistake. Your test levels are high forsure. Good luck.

Edit: Benadryl is also supposed to help cleanse androgen receptors.

Something else I should throw in.

If you have high test through an exogenous source but you don’t have a good diet, this will hinder results.

If you eat hyperglycemic carbs all the time and don’t workout regularly, this will mess up the way you feel.

Carb cycling and getting in the gym and pushing myself really helped my energy level.

I ended up having my hand forced in coming off. The clinic I see shut down their location near me, and the closest one is 45 minutes away. It did not make sense to drive there. We are bringing me off with HCG over the next month or two. I’m on my third week with no T and while there are some side effects, nothing unmanageable so far.

Are you seeing a good Endocrinologist ?

I’m not seeing anyone currently.

And interestingly enough, no endocrinologist in my town of nearly 70k people.

Luckily, if you’re in the US, there are websites which you can order private blood tests to gauge where you are.