What makes a woman swallow?

I only read the first post.

If she doesnt want to swallow, LIVE WITH IT.

If your girlfriend won’t swallow, you can always replace her.

I feel sorry for the married men on this thread who practically have to beg their wives for sex… That’s pathetic.

I’ve always believed that marriage (especially divorce) benefits women, not men.

I dont have a problem kissing her after she pleases me. I have an issue with kissing her if she has some cum left in her mouth. That is just one reason I don’t really long for that act.

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I too only read the first post. Some women find it disgusting to swallow, and some may swallow if she’s giving you head in an inappropriate(think thats how you spell it) place and she can’t spit. Would you swallow if she came in your mouth?

The woman I am with and I love has always swallowed for me. I think that this boils down to a few reasons.

1. She is in love with me an enjoys giving me pleasure.
2. She enjoys that I am “giving” her something intimate of mine
3. I always give her oral sex because I love to do so - likewise I swallow all of her fluids and do not try to be neat; I don’t mind if her wetness is all over my face
4. I have a healthy diet. I drink lots of water, pineapple juice and eat fruit daily. I’ve tasted my own semen and don’t find it offensive. Niether does she, as is evidenced as she doesn’t even reach for a drink after finishing.

Just a few factors that I feel may be contributing.

That could work in THEORY, but if she puts up resistance all is really going go to shit. Every woman wants to be a seductress and sex goddess deep down. Some lock it away and foreget about it. If you can find a way to bring it up to the surface, you can milk it. I would suggest role playing and other techniques like that to do so. Iamaru really is better at defining this than I am. We have similair twisted minds, but he has better knowledge of the topic to describe it to you as well as more years on the Accursed Earth than I do.

People who love NLP and its Bastard son speed seduction actually have scripts for this kind of stuff specifically. While I am familair with that set of topics, I am not a real expert with it. Perhaps someone of real authority with it can tell us?

You can only try. Perhaps, it is locked away far too deep to pump up from the subconscious. I don’t know if a person who made an issue out of it before can salvage it. Perhaps Ru Ru Petals can chime in here for us all.

Geez! First of all, I don’t want the woman that I am with to think that I am disrespecting her by FORCING her to swallow my cum. For some men, this is a sign of control over a woman by making her swallow. I guess I can see the turn on with that, but at the same time, how can you be turned on by making someone do something that they really don’t want to do. The reason that I started this post was because at one time many moons ago I dated a woman that right now has decided to be in the adult video industry. When we first went out, she never swallowed, and come to think of it, was somewhat disgusted at giving a BJ as well. Recently, I decided to view one of her “movies” and noticed that not only was she willing to swallow a man’s load, but she took on 3 guys and swallowed every drop.

As you can tell, this upset me somewhat and I am wondering if it is me, since my wife won’t swallow me either.

Anna raised some interesting points, but I don’t think that she is being totally honest. For one, I seriously doubt that if her husband refused to do something for her in the sack, that she would just accept his decision and give up so easily. If bondage is something that she needs, it is his duty to fulfill her fantasy as her lifelong partner. Otherwise, I feel that she is justified in getting it somewhere else. Why the hell be married if you are never going to be satisfied with one another.

Second, I don’t think that all men want a woman to only give them head if they agree to swallow it. Oral sex is a way that 2 people express themselves sexually and we all agree that the most intimate part of a woman’s body is her face. For me, if a woman is giving me head and looks longingly at me or lovingly at me while doing it, that gives me more satisfaction than if she swallows since that shows me that she is really into the act and more importantly me.

Don’t get me wrong, some women swallow because they want to please the guy and are really into them, but not all men are willing to give the ultimatum “swallow or else”!

GO SPURS GO

I didn’t get married to get my way. I got married because I loved my husband with all my heart. I also don’t share these things as a way to give an example and it all be a lie. If I say something I mean what I say. I am not being dishonest to serve my purpose. There are things I won’t say but when I do say something, take it at face value. I won’t take offense that you say I am not being completely honest.

I am all about making a relationship work and that means at times if I have to put my needs on the back burner, then so be it. It’s not about getting my way or him getting his way. It’s about respecting that he wasn’t into it. Men can’t seem to grasp that concept sometimes. There are many things that I have let go of as well as he has. And it’s alright, for the most part, because in the big scheme of things, tying him up wasn’t going to make or break our marriage.

At any rate, people change. What you don’t like today, you could love tomorrow and What you love today you could hate the next. And when you are getting paid big bucks or have the potential to get paid big buck, spunk could taste like honey and you can drink it like water. If that is what you are made to do as far as your adult industry friend is concerned.

I don’t want to be a suck-up again but I have to agree with Anna on this topic.

Marriage is not only about giving, it is also about accepting you won’t get EVERYTHING you ever dreamed of. For instance, I love getting 69 with her on top. My wife has done this for me quite a few times in the last 27 years but really does not like it much and the last 2 years or so, I have done without it. Now, I do like it a lot BUT she does not. So, it will not kill me to shine it on. She does a LOT of other things that I love just as much. She also won’t play with herself in front of me. I would really get off on that as well. But you know what? I get off instead when she bends over in doggie style and sticks that beautiful ass up in the air and takes my cock all the way to her eyebrows with some pretty nice groans. And then makes me cum real hard from her doing kegels so hard that it literally hurts my dick! I would also like to bring the neighbor girl home and do a MFF. That is REALLY out of the question and I have never even asked for that. It is just a fantasy really. And a LOT of things are better left just as that, a fantasy.

Life is made up of things that we can’t have. Marriage is as well. Marriage is all about giving and taking, yes. It is also about not demanding what you think you really need when you really don’t and she does not feel comfortable doing it. Hey, maybe she does not like doing shit because it reminds her of an old boyfriend that used to grab her by the short hairs and shove it up her ass and laugh like hell when she would scream and grimmace and then tell everyone about it at the Thanksgiving table dinner. You don’t fucking know what is on another one’s mind and why they may be reserved about doing something.

So, leave your SO and go find a girl that will swallow every bit of tonsil nectar that you have to offer. Fuck, let it drip off her eyebrows as well. Then when the fucking is over, then you can bitch about her housekeeping or maybe her cooking just fucking sucks. I have been around women with voices that will take a cock that is rock hard and with just a few words it will go limp just from her squelching, irritating noise from her pie-hole. How about this? A girl that won’t fuck you when she is on her period or a gal that doesn’t even like to fuck in the morning? I know a lot of guys that have gals like that. You know what they say about it? “Oh well.” They have been with plenty of other girls with a lot more fucking problems and they are happy with the “limited” boundaries that they have.

Just my two cents…..

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I see you can only see things in black or white. There is a huge gray area in between that others are unable to perceive of even existing. I live for the gray and harvest the possibilities from it. There are always other ways.

People have hang ups and they cause these things some times. Maybe Vincent Van Cock’s wife got caught dialing “O” on the pink phone as a kid and gets weirded out to other people seeing her pleasure herself? Perhaps someone was raised religious and didn’t want to get labeled the slut like Lori Junior year at Saint Thomas High School in WeeHauken, whom used to blow the football team after practice, behind all the bleechers? Maybe someone had a dildo stuck up their ass and had to go to the emergency room to get out after a wild night of spin the bottle? Thus resulting in an anal refusal for the man. Who knows? But, I think more often than not, there is a reason for a refusal than I just don’t want to do X,Y, or Z.

Add into the factor that women in general are socialized not to be labeled a whore. Many years of programming like this does put a tremendous gravitational pull on what they view as acceptable and what is not. These little things start to add up and perhaps a conclusion can be hypothesized.

I had a dear girl that I still fondly remember. She used to sell shoes at one of the big malls in my area. She worked in an off fetish and expensive retail place. Strippers used to come in and get their footwear there. This innocent little ex-fat girl as a kid, loved the idea to occasionally play the temptress even if it was in her own mind. This dream or fantasy gets locked away for the right guy to find and unlock if he dares. Many years later, I ran into her as a bartender at my newest base of operations. She used to have a saying that her devil horns kept her halo propped up too. I still smile about that to this day. Much later, she learned to let it out, including going to a strip club with both genders and having a great time. I guess you could chalk it up to the social proof of her whorish brunette friend who was as wild as some coked up porn gal working a DVDA to pay her back rent before she gets evicted the next morning.

Let us factor in also the huge percentage that a woman has been physically, emotionally or sexually abused some time in her life before she winds up with you. These lasting tramuas will have a causation of many strange and tragic hang ups.

A realtionship is like an onion, which gets peeled to reveal more layers than what you originally thought was there from the outside. A little bit of understanding and homebrew cognitive therapy can iron out some of these wrinkles. Give it a try. Have fun while unlocking the whole person underneath. The same goes for you.

Many moons ago, before I really even lived in bars, I used to have my own porn biz on ebay peddling vids. This was before it went to shit with everyone having to really have cutthroat pricing and vast capital. Back in the day, even a 20 year old kid, who lived at home with his parents and worked a part-time job slinging boxes could make an acceptable amount of dough.

Anyhow, I used to give my credentials in, and get admission to the East Coast Video show. I would shoot the shit with everyone there, particularly the business people. I always wound up being well-liked and often got invited up to the smaller companies’ parties. Between there and on the floor of the mid-week show in the 90s, I always chit chatted away with the girls. Mostly pro-am and the B List of that era.

Needless to say, they would always bring up how they got in the Jizz-bizz and describe fucking in front of the camera for the first time. Quite often, they would tell me that they never did anything like that before in their previous years. The DPs, the Gang Bangs, etc… Some of them used to only have sex with the light off with their boyfriends before migrating over to the blue screen.

In conclusion, the whole jizz bizz “spackles” a new persona on these people of what is acceptable and what is not. Through social proof and the consistancy principle they begin to actually enjoy it, the very thing they once loathed. So don’t really think it was you and feel down on yourself. It is more like you just didn’t express what you wanted and had no idea of how to get it. Most people don’t vocalize what they desire and hope the other person will just intiate or go along with it. I used to do that as a kid, Christ, I didn’t even know how people thought, behaved, or worked untill this millenium preety much. A small bread crumb trail of clues allowed me to get some idea the five years before it. Remember, you would be shocked at the number of prudes right off the bus who 30 days later are doing a Baker’s Dozen in a gangbang.;)

Have a good night, I don’t want to bore you with my porn peddling days in this thread anymore. I am afraid it will spin into a black hole of off topicness.
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The thing is I am what the speed seduction guys call a natural for much of this stuff, the sex end of things even more than the seduction. Add in a very abnormal psychology to start with and the fact I was learning a lot about sex at a young age and it becomes hard to communicate what I am doing, I just do it.

Create a level of emotional rapport/connection that by passes all of their ingrained prohibitions and learned pre-concepts of right and wrong. Do this by being absolutely non-judgmental about all aspects of the person you are interacting with. Do you remember how you would approach another child you found interesting when you were only 3 or 4? Everyone has, to some extent, separate “personas” or sub personalities. Now the Master speed seduction guys exploit this fact with very specific patterns or templates to manipulate others into doing what they want. I don’t do that. I “just” connect with someone very deeply and on multiple levels, creating a situation/environment where they feel absolutely safe to explore their own hidden desires and experiment with things they often haven’t even been able to talk about till that point.

A few things to keep in mind about what I do that make it less than helpful for guys that just want to “make” the girl swallow a load. I am not doing something or using a technique, I am just being the way I am. Is it worth reworking your entire base personality to have a girl swallow? Probably not, also if you are looking for a “result”, in this case swallowing, you are not being “absolutely non-judgmental about all aspects of the person you are interacting with” are you?

Four quick thoughts:
I probably did a better job explaining this in my old Tantra thread, and I did a questionable job there.
I wouldn’t explain more clearly if I could as these types of skills give the ability to exploit and mind f*ck others in ways that are hard for most to understand.
If you just want to learn how to manipulate someone into swallowing peruse the speed seduction site(s).
I never ask or attempt to get them to do this, I don’t care at all. This is just something that they do on their own with me.

Thank you kind Lone Ranger. You did a better job than I could explaining it.

Yours Truly,
Constipated Tonto without a Casino to make Pale Face wompum from

Ru Ru Petals,

I very often get that same thing back in the day when I was all knowing nothing about anything. People would just tell me anything, even when I was minding my own business. I chalked it up as I must have a priest’s face in my past life, even if it was Tomás de Torquemada. ;)

Here is Ru’s Tantra thread if anyone is interested. I know little of the subject matter, so ask those in the know.

Tantric sex
(Twat quietly shifts back to seat and becomes a student yet again)

Well, I am happy that this post has been able to garner up such honest and blunt responses. I must say a few things in conclusion.

Anna, I really appreciate your point of view on this, although, as I said before, I think you are worried about saying how you really feel about some of the things that are wrong in your relationship right now. For me, marriage is a give and take, and I know that you believe this as well. The difference is, I don’t believe that we should “settle and accept things as they are” if we can’t change them. I think that people should understand that marriage requires a hell of a lot more than “love” to make things work, and sometimes, unfortunately, our happiness depends on those other things that we feel love covers over. I wish you nothing but the best in your marriage and continued happiness. You really are a beautiful person on the inside and outside, as I can see by your pics.

Twat, I have to agree with almost everything that you had to say, but I have to be weary of those that have dabbled in the adult video industry. I lost a bit of respect for my friend once she went in headfirst, and I still say to this day that she is going to regret it. I know that I may be a little hypocritical when I pass judgement on those that are in the “business”, seeing as that I plan on trying it out once I hit my goal of 10 inches, but I don’t see myself as doing it out of necessity. Anyway, thanks for the interest and the input. Goodnight all, and God bless.

GO SPURS GO