You can hold your cum past the Point of No Return. Here’s how:

Brief overview: This is a technique to hold your cum once you’ve gone over the proverbial “cliff”. I will get into reasons why you might want to do this later (want to keep having sex, want to save your energy, want to improve your EQ, etc.) This method does not exactly stop the orgasm itself (it still feels amazing and extremely intense) but it stops the release of semen – and that’s what matters, at least as far as preserving your energy and improving EQ is concerned. The orgasm you’ll experience while “refraining” from ejaculating is a little different (because you’re fighting ejaculation) but it’s definitely still there. You go through it, not around it.

This is a humongous subject, and this post will be long, but I will hammer the points as quickly as possible. I’ll put the meat upfront, and add details in the next post so you can skip those and come back to them as you see fit, and just get busy doing! I recommend this technique for all men to use when needed, and I feel it may be especially useful for men who suffer from premature ejaculation which might ruin a sexual encounter or not make a good first impression. (I always wanted to absolutely knock my date’s socks off on the first encounter. First impressions matter! She may not give you another chance to make it up to her!)

Why should you listen to me: I have successfully held my cum through orgasm at least 10 times. Maybe 15. I don’t have an exact count because it’s something I avoid, so it’s only happened sporadicly over the last 8+ years of marriage as I’ve learned different facets of semen retention/tantra and put them into practice off and on. It’s very intense, and requires a much greater act of will power than simply stopping before the PONR. I’d much rather just end the session without ejaculating, once my wife has had enough, and I’m satisfied with my performance and did everything I wanted – but this post is about what to do if you’ve gone over the edge!

I just had to refrain from cumming last night, due to my wife’s tiny holes trying to STEAL my cum from me before I was ready (wasn’t really planning on cumming for PE and EQ reasons). And I realized, as a new member with not many posts here, this is certainly something unique and valuable I can contribute from my experience, so I decided to post about it. The sensations and experiences from last night’s episode are fresh in my mind and I will walk you through the process step by step. It’s simple – but intense. The intensity is what makes it difficult. It only lasts 45-60 seconds. You can do it. And you’ll be seriously fuckin proud of yourself when you do.

I realize there will probably be a few non-believers, chronic masturbators, and cOoMeRs in here shitting all over my post saying it’s impossible or it’s unhealthy (to make themselves feel better) – there always is when someone discusses semen retention – but I am going to spend exactly zero time on them. This is real. I give you my word, as one man to another. I’m not in here selling anything. Just sharing a tip for the bros. Try it. (There is no try – only do. Especially in this case. It is an act of pure Will. You either do it, or you give in = Fail.)

You can practice this solo, or wait to try it until the desperate need arises with a partner you don’t want to prematurely finish with. I see no harm or problems with practicing solo – and I would highly recommend this to a premature ejaculator in addition to prolonged edging. After a long session of edging, push yourself over the edge, and then refrain! There is no shame in failing. Just try again brother. You can do it.

I’m going to write this in the tone of my internal monologue/mental voice while going through this extremely intense experience. Like if I were a spotter at the gym, spotting myself through this heavy and impossible lift, encouraging myself and not letting myself quit. I’m going to repeat myself (like a mantra), add emotion, and emphasis, and cuss words where I see fit – so, grammar police, please, spare me. When you go through it yourself, you will see EXACTLY what I mean :-)

What I do once I realize I’m past the PONR/going over the cliff:

1. IMMEDIATELY STOP ALL STIMULUS.
-This means hands off your ridiculously hot woman.
-Pull out of her hand, mouth, v, or a (whatever set you off at the time).
-Do not let your dick brush against her skin, the sheets, the blankets, or whatever. If this is a premature ejaculation situation and your dick is still trapped in your underwear/pants and it can’t not touch something – STOP MOVING! DO NOT MOVE! (This will make it more difficult to refrain through the pulsing/throbbing phase, as it throbs against your pants – but it is still 100% doable – and if you want to have a good night with your hot date, you’re gonna do it! Don’t give in!)
-Eyes clamped shut (looking at a beautiful woman is NOT going to help you right now – you need to be completely alone and frozen inside yourself for the intensity you are going to rise above).
-Tell her “DON’T MOVE!” “Do not move!”
-If she’s moaning or was in the middle of cumming, tell her “Quiet!” Mentally block her sounds.
-If possible (in your position) back away and get a little distance from her bottom end. The distance helps. They have an energy field in and around their pelvis that zaps/pulls you – especially just before and during ovulation when their body is desperate for cum. Don’t believe me? Try this technique with distance (1ft+) and without (1-2”). You WILL feel her energy zapping your unit, pulling and begging for your cum.

This is about removing all possible stimulus that makes you want to cum.
No touch. No look. No listen.
Freeze inside yourself. Totally alone in the blackness. Just you and your absolute WILL POWER.

2. Sharp, deep inhalation of breath, and hold it! I seem to almost do it like a reverse whistle – lips in a pretty tight ring, as I sharply suck in a jet stream of air through the center of my mouth. Sort of like Lamaze Breathing for pregnant women? Don’t know if this is significant, but I think it is. Sharply inhale all the way, fill your lungs, and hold it. It’s important that your lungs are full. Packed with air. This fullness gives you something to rest on. Something for your diaphragm to push and rest against. It’s like bracing yourself against a brick wall. It gives you strength. Hard to explain, but you will see what I mean. If your lungs aren’t totally full or you’re wanting to give in, you can sharply suck more air in, topping off your lungs – packing them full. Full full. But do not breathe again until this is all over (45-60 seconds). Do not breathe again until it’s over!

3. Clamp your Kegel muscle and do not fucking let go. Do not let go. This is a vice grip sort of clamp. You flex that shit and you hold it like your life depends on it – like you stepped on a landmine, or there is a gun to your head. YOU DO NOT LET GO FOR ANY REASON. This will take 45-60 seconds, and it will probably be the hardest thing you’ve ever done in your life – I believe it’s the hardest thing any man can do. It is an extremely intense act of sheer Will. It is the ultimate act of Will, really. (I won’t detour into the spirituality behind sex magic yet). Just know that this will take all your will power – so go into this experiment 100% mentally ready to JUST DO IT – not “try” and fail.

Clamp that goddamn Kegel muscle and do not fucking let go. That flex/clamp on that muscle is the only thing saving you from failure. You clamp it, flexing as tight as you can possibly muster, and then even tighter than that, and then YOU DO NOT LET GO. (Holding a packed lungful of air just makes all this easier – gives you something firm to rest on.) No stimulus. No breathing. No motion. Your entire body frozen on that flex/clamp on your Kegel muscle. 45-60 seconds. You can do it man. Don’t give in. It’s honestly as simple as that. Do not give in.

4. It’s going to feel impossible. Your entire body is going to feel that it’s impossible. It is going to tell you to not ruin your orgasm and just give in to it. It’s going to tell you the orgasm can’t be stopped, and you’ve already ruined the first half of it, so just give in now and enjoy the rest. I am here to tell you, giving you my word as a man, that it is possible. It is possible. You CAN do it. You just have to do it.

YOU CAN NOT LISTEN TO THAT VOICE/FEELING TELLING YOU IT’S IMPOSSIBLE. Treat it like a dare. Your body is saying “I bet you can’t do that. No fuckin way! That’s impossible bro!” You accept the challenge and say “Oh yeah? Watch this.” And then just do it out of pure spite and stubbornness – just to win the bet! Often, attacking something from a standpoint of rigid stubbornness is much more powerful and indomitable than relying on will power or strength alone. It is possible. It is repeatable. You can absolutely do it – I promise you.

This is a trial by fire, and when you make it out the other side, you are going to feel the gravity of what you’ve just accomplished. You are going to like being the type of man who can conquer something as impossible as this – knowing that 99.99% of other men can not (Will not – holding your cum is a Will power issue). You will be impressed with yourself. This will affect your confidence and give you strength going forward when faced with new obstacles in life. You will carry it with you.

Your woman will be in disbelief as well – she has never met or heard of a man who can hold his cum past the PONR, and she will never meet another one. She will be shocked, impressed, in disbelief, and in awe of your power – I guarantee you that. In her eyes you will now and forever be a “Supreme Being.” An Ultimate Man. Something she has never seen, did not believe existed, and will certainly never see again. Somewhere deep inside her, a part of her will know what you just did, and how rare and impossible it was. She will deeply revere and respect this divine act of Will power that you’ve just performed. It’s something that will stick with her – it will affect the way she looks at you, thinks of you, and treats you – now that she has witnessed you performing this unheard of and miraculous sexual (and spiritual) feat. The deep spiritual and sexual respect and admiration of a beautiful woman is reason enough on its own to experiment with this and give it a go. This is peak Alpha. Do not give in! Refrain! Refrain! Refrain!

5. Your dick will likely start throbbing and pulsing as if it were ejaculating. It will feel like you’ve already lost. It will feel like you’re cumming. But you are not, bro. You are not. You are holding your goddamn breath and clamping your goddamn Kegel muscle for dear life – and no semen is coming out. Do not give in! Refrain! Refrain! Refrain!

Every time you feel like you’re losing your Kegel muscle flex/clamp to the pulsing/throbbing, you just flex more, clamp that muscle more! Add to the flex. If you feel the flex fading, add more flex. Keep it clamped! The Kegel/PC muscle has extreme stamina, and the early signs of muscle failure are not true muscle failure. If your flex is fading – add more flex. Try harder. Simple as that.

Because you’re not letting the cum escape, the pumping your dick/balls are doing is actually pumping the fluid up your spine. It is not dead-heading against a dead-end like a hydraulic pump pushing against a fully extended hydraulic cylinder. It simply bypasses the urethra exit and gets pumped up the spinal channels. This is perfectly healthy and normal. Nothing is getting “trapped in your balls”. No pipes are getting “clogged”. Retaining semen in this way is one of the healthiest things any man can ever do. Please don’t use some bullshit “health concern” to justify weakness and failure. Do not give in!

6. Steps 1-3 should happen almost instantly. Rapid fire. Remove all stimulus that makes you want to cum. Sharply inhale and hold full lungs. Fiercely clamp your Kegel muscle and do not let go. Fast as you can. Steps 4 and 5 will unfold during the 45-60 second process. If you need to top off your lungs by quickly sucking in a little more air, do it. If you exhale at all, instantly sharply inhale and continue holding. At no point in time, ever, do you relax your Kegel muscle flex. If it fades, you flex harder. If it throbs, you flex harder. If you feel a drop or a shot of cum leak out – YOU DO NOT USE THAT AS YOUR EXCUSE TO GIVE UP – YOU FLEX YOUR KEGEL MUSCLE HARDER – and you continue to Refrain! Refrain! Refrain! That Kegel muscle flex is the only thing that’s going to save you – so you must not release it until this whole process is completely over. Better to wait a little longer than release prematurely. Better to release partially and gently than release abruptly.

That’s really it guys. It is all about the Kegel flex. Everything else is about setting you up for success in maintaining that Kegel flex and resisting the stimulations and temptations to give in. Do not give in! It is truly as simple as that. You will feel when the wave has passed, and it is really truly over, and it is finally safe to start relaxing. Better to stay flexed slightly longer just in case you’re wrong on your first try. Better to win than fail at the end of all that effort. I am not exaggerating when I say it will feel like the hardest thing you’ve ever done in your life. It truly feels impossible. But I am here to tell you it is indeed possible.

Depending on how well you held onto that orgasm (minimal throbbing, no cum leakage vs. lots of throbbing and leakage) you can expect different levels of results afterwards. In my experience, if I do an excellent job at holding onto my orgasm – I can immediately go back to sex with a 70% or better erection and sensitivity level. It’s like I only experience 30% of the refractory period symptoms. If the orgasm hits me harder, even without cum leakage, it may “fool my system” into thinking it’s had an orgasm and I will experience more like 50-60% of the refractory period symptoms (loss of interest, loss of EQ, loss of sensitivity with which to regain EQ). It really just depends on how tight you hold onto it, in my experience.

Last night my Level-5 (100% EQ) went to a Level-1/2 after refraining from cumming (I had light throbbing, no leakage – but a pretty big internal orgasm experience, which I think “fooled my system” into thinking I’d came). After about 5 mins of trying, I was not able to regain sufficient EQ, and it was 2:30AM, so we just called it :-) What matters is that I kept my cum. I kept my energy. And my morning wood was Level-5. My energy today is high. I was inspired to do this big write-up. Inside, I feel bright and sunny – not gray and drained.

Keeping your cum is what matters. Even if it’s only for EQ, energy, and PE. Even if you can’t necessarily go right back to pound town and carry on for another two hours (sometimes you definitely can – CERTAINLY if you are on Viagra/Cialis! - certainly if you’re a young man with endless eagerness!)

In no way am I preaching against ejaculating, or admonishing guilt or shame on anyone who does (I do – we all do). I am simply discussing a sexual technique you can use as you see fit, and the benefits of preserving your energy.

If I had one recommendation to preach to young men, it would be to consider only edging while masturbating. Learn to control your sensations, pace yourself, delay orgasm, and last a long time. And don’t forget pee breaks (full bladder messes with your sensations and orgasm control). Never ever waste your cum on nothing. It’s not really about the liquid you’re saving – it’s the energy that’s inside it. It’s the power! Save it for a real partner. Use that power on real women! Women can smell/sense this power. Women can also smell/sense chronic masturbators/cOoMeRs. Keep this power and it will keep your dick hard, and turn you into a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus! I’m speaking from experience, and this is what I would tell my younger self. I hope you’ll consider it.

I hope this helps someone. Will be adding some more in depth details in a Q & A format in the next post. Happy to answer anyone else’s questions. And would love to hear your experiences!

Q: Isn’t this going to look weird in front of my partner? They won’t know wtf is going on. They’ll think I’m a spaz. I won’t be able to talk or explain because I’m holding my breath and Kegel for dear life. Etc.

A: Yeah. At first, perhaps. Who cares? You’re the man. You’re the leader. Captain of her underpants. Do what you want. Once she realizes what you’ve done, this is just going to be one more BIG ASS THING on her list of reasons she really really likes you. You just held an orgasm in front of her so you could keep fucking her. The sheer will power required! It’s impossible! And you just did it! For her! Pretty sure she’s gonna like that, bud. You are well on your way to becoming a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus. Keep going.

Never be afraid to communicate with your partner. You are the man. You are the leader. Be assertive. Highly recommend telling her “You were so fucking hot I almost came.” “I held it cuz no way am I done with you yet!” Etc. All good things. She will like all of this.

Q: This seems like it’d be unhealthy? Aren’t you like plugging yourself up by “blocking” your cum? Doesn’t this like “clog up” the pipes? Doesn’t this cause some sort of congestion or blockage? Doesn’t seem right/natural/healthy?

A: Absolutely not. I have four points for you, friend. Read on.

1. There is a concept called the ‘Natural Fallacy’ that you should know about. I’m going to summarize. Just because something is “natural” does not mean it is GOOD! All sorts of horrible things happen in the “natural” world. For example, male bears will kill female bears’ cubs so the female will be ready to mate again (with him). Perfectly “natural”. Happens all the time. But absolutely not GOOD, and certainly not beneficial to the female bear or her cubs, or the bear species at large. I could give you hundreds of examples of perfectly “natural” and horrible things, and I’m sure you can think of just as many if you’re honest with yourself.

Human beings are born into the “natural” world helpless and completely incapable of “naturally” surviving it – even in a mild climate. Houses are completely “unnatural” manmade creations and yet we absolutely require shelter from the elements to live. We do not “naturally” have large claws or teeth, and yet we are the apex predator because we craft “unnatural” tools to enable us to live. It is perfectly “natural” for a man to see a beautiful woman, be overcome with desire for her, and want to fuck her right then and there – but it is totally WRONG for him to do so, unless she too consents, of course. I could go on forever with this so I’ll leave it there. Semen retention is about rising ABOVE our lower (animal) nature, and stepping into our higher nature – that special thing that makes us so different and so much more than the animals – in the same way that they are so much more than plants, and plants are so much more than minerals. Think of an ant trying to conceive a human. Impossible. We are simply in another dimension vs. them – the same way they are exponentially more complex and sophisticated than a plant. These are rungs on the ladder, similar to grades K-12 at school. We’re trying to go up the ladder, not down. Don’t use your lower “nature” as a guide – rise, and step into your higher nature!

2. It’s important to distinguish between the two acts. Sex is not ejaculation. Sex is everything before ejaculation. Ejaculation is a separate act. It’s firstly an act of procreation (from a “natural” perspective) – it’s about having kids, furthering the species, etc. Secondly, and primarily for most people, it’s an act of pleasure. This pleasure is routinely indulged, overindulged, and abused, and men who recognize this fact, and can feel the energy drain over time from frequent ejaculation, are the ones who wake up to this reality and may take an interest in preserving their energy by retaining semen as often as they are motivated to do so (how much can you resist?) The energy drain of ejaculation is well known by boxers, fighters, and some other athletes – who will retain their semen for months in preparation for their big battle.

Logically, a man should be able to think to himself “I want to have sex with this woman, but I do not wish to conceive a child at this time – therefor I will have sex without ejaculating.” Separating the act of sex from the act of ejaculation, and treating them as two separate things, is perfectly “natural” and logical. Anyone who can not consciously do this simply hasn’t put awareness on it yet – hasn’t thought much about it, or had the experiences and realizations. A man may have hours of intense sex without ever giving in to the urge to ejaculate. A man may conclude his sex session once he and his partner are happy and tired without ever giving in to his urge to ejaculate. A man can keep his energy for use again later that day, the next morning, etc.

This energy is not just sexual energy – it’s vital energy, animating the whole body, contributing to how refreshed, bright, and energetic we feel – or how drained, gray, and low-energy we feel when we’ve overindulged in frequent ejaculation. This effect is much more noticeable with age. A young man is unlikely to realize the gravity of energy drain that’s occurring each time he masturbates for “release” to relieve him of his abundance of this energy. But a middle-aged or older man who has had a long and active sexual career (with thousands of ejaculations) will absolutely and clearly feel the energetic effects of frequent ejaculation vs. not ejaculating.

3. Far from being “unhealthy”, this is actually the healthiest thing you can possibly do. Retaining semen is THE HEALTHIEST THING ANY MAN CAN EVER DO. I’m not going to go too deep into this. You will have to do your own research if you take an interest. But I will summarize: When you ejaculate, the critical energy you are losing (it’s exiting your body) is called “Jing”. This Jing is the vital energy of the body. It is what animates all processes that happen in the body, at a core level. It’s like the spark that starts the fire. Think of it as “super nutrition”. It is a store of super nutrition. It is our well of energy. And once the well runs dry – see you in the next life. There are two types of Jing – all people have a store of Jing, made up of these two types of Jing. Pre-natal Jing (your ancestral/inherited Jing given to you by your parents and God/the Universe itself) similar to how a tiny seed contains the blueprint and every single thing a mighty oak tree needs to grow into its final form – except macro nutrients (sun, water, and soil). This leaves Post-natal Jing (Jing acquired through eating and drinking – and sun, IMO).

Post-natal Jing is basically the most refined energy essence boiled down by the body from the food you eat and drink. Higher quality/more nutritious foods have more high quality essence, so your body can refine more Jing from say, a high quality sushi roll, a plate of oysters, or a nice Wagyu beef steak marbled with fat, than it can from nasty processed food full of hydrogenated vegetable oils, corn syrup, and empty carbs and sugars. Have you ever heard the term “pouring oblations onto the fire”? It’s an ancient spiritual practice of pouring precious oils onto a holy fire while praying and doing other rituals and practices. Oil – Fat – is literally fuel for your inner fire. It’s the primary thing your inner furnace runs on. Make sure you eat plenty of good fats – they absolutely help replenish Jing.

Your body replenishes its Jing to a degree by eating and drinking. We can clearly feel that we are recharged by food. But, if we are honest with ourselves in this regard (semen retention vs. frequent ejaculation) we can also feel that no amount of food fully takes away the drained feeling from ejaculating too much, or just being extremely exhausted from a long or grueling experience (extended and laborious workday, staying awake 24+ hours, survival/fight or flight situation, etc.) Extreme experiences, or deep/chronic exhaustion, consumes Jing as well. The body resorts to using this super nutrition to power us through whatever extreme thing we’re going through.

The problem is our Ancestral Jing. The Pre-Natal Jing. This is our store of energy we are born with, which can never be replaced. There is a finite amount of it. And every time we ejaculate, a small amount of it literally leaves our body, never to return. This is the core understanding. The basic physical materialistic reason (leaving aside spiritual reasons) we practice semen retention or worry about it at all, is to preserve our energy. Both for health and longevity – but also just for our general day to day feeling of wellness and energy. It is better to feel full of energy and eager for life (bright and sunny inside), than it is to feel gray and drained. Simple fact.

Once we run out of Ancestral Jing, we die. The body’s well of vital energy has been depleted, and there is no “super nutrition” left to animate its bodily functions – so the bodily functions cease. Men who ejaculate more frequently are more inclined to suffer poorer general health and vitality and a shorter lifespan. Men who ejaculate less frequently are more inclined to enjoy greater general heath for longer. For at least the last hundred years there’s been debate about why women live longer than men. Many speculate it’s because men are risk-takers, or they go off to fight and die in battle, eat too much red meat, drink too much, etc. But I submit to you that ejaculation is actually the primary driver behind men’s shorter average lifespans. This is one thing that indisputably separates men from women – men literally lose energy from their body every time they cum. This drains their vital energy, resulting in shorter average lifespans. Food for thought.

There are many stories and instances of this “fountain of youth” and many examples of very old men who look much younger than their years. Semen retention teacher Mantak Chia himself is a phenomenal example of this. Look up a picture of his face. Then look up his age. See for yourself, know for yourself. The origin of the french term “La Petite Mort”, which means “the little death”, is in reference to the fact that our orgasm “release” really does resemble the death release from the body process and a small glimpse of the spiritual experience that goes along with it, and that we do in fact die a little bit every time we release some of our vital energy in this way.

4. The semen does not get congested “in the balls” or the pubic region at all. Retained semen gets pumped up the spinal channels by the body. This is exactly where you want it. Some middle-aged and older gentlemen who put this stuff into practice, and put awareness on what they’re feeling in their bodies, may clearly notice light to moderate lower-back pain the day after a big ejaculation, or a series of frequent ejaculations. This is because you are literally losing spinal fluid. See for yourself, know for yourself.

Practicing semen retention longterm results in more and more of this energy being pumped up the spine, causing increased will power, and increased spiritual transformation/evolution and realizations, until eventually reaching the third eye area, resulting in significant spiritual breakthrough/enlightenment experiences. This is a long and arduous accomplishment which very few men have ever achieved.

I want to be clear that I have not attained that level of retention and have not experienced the peak of that mountain – but I have retained for 30+ days of daily and twice a day sex practices and have experienced many of these things. I’m simply providing this for learning material, you can learn more from Mantak Chia or Samael Aun Weor’s books. Do your own research if you find this resonates with you.

Q: Doesn’t this give you “blue balls”?

A: I have not experienced “blue balls” once in my entire sexual career – with or without semen retention. I am a very sexual person. I discovered porn and masturbation early, a couple years before I could even ejaculate. I absolutely studied porn, learning about sex, women’s anatomy, and pleasure, as I learned about my own unit and learned to edge and delay release so I could last a long time and please a woman as much as possible. (Pleasing a beautiful woman has always been my core motivation. The prettier she is, the more she cums, the louder she screams, the more she loves and worships me – the better I feel about myself. I’m not sure I’ve fully sourced the exact root of this insecurity, but I can clearly see it in operation in my life.) I think around 12 years old I once orgasmed 13 times in one day – trying to see how far it goes – definitely ran out of ejaculate that day. I’ve also had sex (without ejaculation) for over five hours in one go. A couple weeks ago we counted over 100 orgasms for my wife during one nightly session (about 2 hours). I am extremely experienced in sex, with many partners, in many situations with plenty of teasing and highly-charged moments, and I have never experienced “blue balls” or any of its symptoms. Is it a myth? I dunno. I think it’s real – but I don’t have it.

I do not understand the “blue balls” phenomena, so I simply can’t comment on it. From the experience I do have with semen retention, and my research and understanding of the theoretical material behind it, I do not really believe in “blue balls” as a thing that needs to be avoided, or believe it’s an actual problem that needs “solving” – I think it is just a hyper-excited state where the balls are engorged and eager, and I think the body often sorts it out if given the time and opportunity to do so (not cumming, rather than cumming). I believe extreme cases of “blue balls” may be just a different form of sexual energy congestion in the pelvic region, which can be solved by using the Microcosmic Orbit technique taught by Mantak Chia, which I will mention in the next question.

For those who do suffer from “blue balls”, I apologize if you disagree with my assessment of this issue I don’t personally experience, and encourage you to comment and fill in the gaps on this as you see fit – especially if you put semen retention into practice and note your “blue balls” experiences and solutions along the way. This would be extremely helpful info for other “blue balls” men to learn from. But please don’t just use “blue balls” as the excuse or the reason to justify your bias towards ejaculating and against semen retention. We are all biased towards ejaculating! This is about rising above it when we choose. An act of great will power – which has many rewards and is worth experimenting with.

Q: I’ve done some semen retention or gone long periods without sex or masturbation, but I feel like I can’t contain it. At some point I NEED RELEASE!

A: I’m with ya bud. Me too. 100%. I get it.

There are answers to this. But they are easier said than done. It’s a whole art form really, and there are much better teachers than me (Mantak Chia). I will summarize.

1. The reason young men feel such a pressing need to masturbate for release to get relief from this burning anxious energy is because they have a ton of it. They’re young! Fresh! Ripe! Full of juice! The best outlet for young people who do not want to do any spiritual practices is exercise. Sports. Weightlifting. This is the absolute best way to burn off some of that excess voltage in a way that puts it to good use building the body and not draining it. This also improves their appearance and ability to attract real female partners – giving them someone REAL to use all that juice on – instead of jerking it in front of a computer! Exercise is key to dealing with excess voltage in the body. True for young and old.

2. There is a meditative practice called the Microcosmic Orbit. This is taught by Mantak Chia, and is the number one thing you need to know when storing up a lot of power in the body through semen retention. The amount of power that builds up can reach levels you may not currently believe is possible. This power can “burn” in a sense. Really, it can manifest as anxious, frantic energy with outbursts and unpredictable behavior. There is a very funny story about David Deida (author of “The Way of the Superior Man”) who experienced an unpredictable outburst like this (during intense semen retention) and went on a lunatic rampage, even attacking someone with a sword! :-)

The basics of this are simple. The energy can not be left to rest in the groin. The energy must be moved to a proper storage location in the body. It must be circulated, not congested. The proper storage location in the body is called the Hara (or “Will Center”). This is the area 2” below your belly button, on the front half of your body. A key principle of meditation in general is this: “Where awareness goes, energy flows.” The Microcosmic Orbit meditation focuses on drawing this power up your spine to your head, down the front of your head and torso, and storing it in the Hara (Will Center). This power is Will Power. It needs to be stored in the Will Center. Once you’ve done this, this power will benefit you, not make you anxious or frantic. It will make you stronger. You will develop an iron Will. After all, who else is strong enough to retain their semen? If you can conquer that, you can conquer anything. Retaining semen is building Will Power. And you will become more and more powerful the longer you can stay on the wagon.

Mantak Chia. Microcosmic Orbit. You MUST use this technique if you get serious about semen retention! (Read that again)

Q: What was it like retaining semen for 30+ days of daily and twice-daily sex practices with your wife?

A: This is where I’ll briefly touch on sexual yoga/sex magic/tantra – which basically refers to undefiled sex. The seed defiles. So “undefiled sex” means sex without male ejaculation. No ejaculation = “white tantra” – the good path – the way – the ultimate tool – more powerful for your spiritual progress than ANY meditation, spiritual practice, prayer, or good deeds. “Black tantra” is a dark path, FYI. Some sex magic teachers will distinguish between these two types of tantra – like Samael Aun Weor. This is information that has been known for so many thousands of years, and I just wish more people today knew about it.

So. It was an extreme deepening of our unconditional (higher nature) love for each other, most of all. It was very much like deeply worshiping a goddess, and being worshipped as a god – in a much more intense way than in usual happy married life. The voltage between us built up as time and pleasure and loving each other went on. This voltage led to higher and higher intensities of pleasure and deeply permeating waves of very serious and meaningful sensations and experiences of love for each other. This love had colors. I remember red, coral, magenta, violet, purple. Like neon, astral versions of those colors – that glow from within. This intensification of love is the primary mechanism through which our spiritual enlightenment occurs. The higher we can rise inside this love vibration (which also has other names – like the “bridegroom”) the more we spiritually “ascend” in a sense. From this elevated standpoint we can have new breakthroughs and new realizations about living and loving and what does it all mean. Emotional shifts. Baggage let go. New ideas. New inspirations. Renewed enthusiasm. Course corrections on our path through life. This is transformation. This is something that sticks with us. It affects our evolution. We have evolved. And we take it with us. Bit by bit.

Enlightenment is not a moment. It’s not a finish line, or a destination. It’s transformation. A continuous process. Exactly like evolution. Enlightenment is the result of millions of right choices. Bit by bit. Life after life.

I wasn’t paying a ton of attention at this time to my Will Power and how powerful I was outside the home or anything like that. Because I wasn’t just retaining semen, I was doing sexual practices with my wife, I was totally overcome by these love experiences and that was the major theme of the whole thing. Eventually my desire for her grew so great I either accidentally went over the edge or gave in and did it fully on purpose (I can’t remember). I’m sure it was an enormous dump truck size load with a massive refractory period (The Fall – in biblical terms) afterwards – but I don’t remember.

As for the sex practices themselves – pretty simple. Sex without me cumming. She came as much as she wanted. As the magnetic VOLTAGE built up between us, less and less movement (pumping) was required, and it was more like her gyrating her hips and grinding. I’ve heard that as you build voltage even higher and higher – the sex will have very little movement. It will basically be insertion, and then a focus on connection and perfect posture (tantric/meditative postures with a focus on keeping the spine straight – verticality – like an antenna – calling and pulling upwards, towards connection).

It was great. I need to do it again. Need to go 60 days! Haha!
These days I mostly just worry about semen retention when I’m feeling drained from overindulging, and I want to maintain Level-5 EQ for sex and PE practices. Simple motivation. Easy enough to conserve some extra energy in exchange for 100% EQ and everything that lets you do during sex. Lately I just cum when I feel I’ve got energy/desire to spare. Will probably tone it down further in the future and cum even less.

Q: Scientifically, this is bullshit. Sounds like a bunch of spiritual woo woo mumbo jumbo.

A: I understand your materialistic perspective. Seems reasonable to only trust what you can see, hear, touch, taste, or smell – except that there are all sorts of things outside your auditory range that you can’t hear, but other creatures can – and all sorts of things outside your visual frequency range that you can’t see or feel and weren’t able to measure before Science caught up to reality and developed instruments to do so. Science can’t prove that love exists either – they think it’s some chemical bullshit in our bRaInS, or a hormone response, or an evolutionary survival mechanism – they don’t understand the ENERGY of love – but pretty much every husband or father will tell you it exists. Science can’t prove what good is, or what evil is. But most of us know they exist, and can see it in ourselves and others. Just because Science hasn’t caught up to reality yet, and can’t pRoOvE iT – doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Humanity is in an interesting time right now (besides all the current geopolitical tricks being played on us). By and large, we’ve left Religion behind for the promise of Science. And yet, this new religion of “sCiEnCe” (“TRUST THE SCIENCE!”) hasn’t caught up to the bulk of ancient spiritual teachings in many significant ways. For example, sCiEnCe says “Okay, sure, it looks like the universe came from one single point, and exploded out from there.” “The “singularity.” “The big bang.” And yet sCiEnCe does nothing to answer the question of who put the “singularity” there in the first place, or where did it come from (referred to as ‘The Golden Egg’ in ancient texts, conveniently answering the question of which came first, the chicken or the egg – everything is contained within the seed). This stuff has been known for at least 50 millennia (before the flood, before Atlantis, before Lemuria).

So my answer to you is that I can’t prove it. Scientists don’t currently have instruments to measure men’s “vital energy” and Jing. Modern medicine says it’s “hEaLtHy” to cOoM five times a week, or whatever their latest bullshit soul-destroying advice on masturbation is. I’m just telling you as a man. Man to man. Speaking from my personal experience. The only way you will ever know for sure is to: See for yourself, know for yourself. No scientific theory or proof will replace your own direct experience with it through practice. Once you have these experiences and realizations, and see for yourself, and know for yourself – no sCiEnTiFiC skeptic will be able to take that away from you. You will Know.

Ok, been there, done that years ago.

Now I fail or manage to do it 50/50 but I very rarely bring myself over the edge.

There is no point in it, a few seconds of a bit more pleasure for potential days of recovery if you fail and even slight drop in energy if you succeed.

I only bring myself a few strokes from ponr and immediately draw the energy from genital area to tailbone and up to the crown of the head, then on exhale send it all along front channel to the navel and few cm inward.

In this manner, every five minutes or so when I feel urge to cum, I do this which lasts 10 seconds at most and it is as if I have just started fucking or masturbating.

Arousal stays the same and goes beyond on each energy draw, but there is simply not enough in the groin to make you cum.

2 or 3 draws I feel connection between balls and crown of the head(just like kriya yoga or meditation) at that point you could argue that you have prolonged whole body orgasm since only thing you could think of or utter name of is God.

You feel really alive, and it is subtle enough yet spread throughout whole body and especially the head, no need to hold for dear life or face consequences like in your example.

For me at least life is not a fight, it is supposed to be enjoyable and effortless almost

Nice job putting your thoughts together. This isn’t new information though, it’s been around the block a few times.

Your technique is quite aggressive, there are “softer” versions out there. All that clamping and yelling Stop Stop (exaggerating a bit for effect) will kill the mood. I don’t think a woman will be looking at you with awe, she’ll be like what the fuck, I was just about to cum and you are pulling the breaks. I first encountered these ideas 25 years ago and have not met a girl since that’s ok with pulling out and stopping so aggressively. If you have one that’s cool with it, that’s awesome. In my experience, it helps to explain to a girl before you start fucking that you are energy aware and conserve your semen loss during ejaculation so it’s not a big surprise. Assure them that you still orgasm, just alot more orgasms with smaller effect vs one big one. Also, not all men experience energy loss or are aware of it, so this post won’t resonate with everyone. I am into the energy arts so I’m aware of what’s happening to me and try to manage my energy, but not everyone believes this stuff and there are still alot guys who can cum several times a day and still build empires, accumulate wealth and be successful. I think most guys who cum alot tend to be mediocre but definitely there are those lucky ones who have it all. In the spanish tradition, the belief is that there was alot of passion when these lucky people were conceived vs “bored sex”, but that’s a whole nuther conversation.

I think you can do these things, but if your girl is just about to cum and you are going to lose it, just fucking go with it and sleep a little extra to recover.

Also, find a softer way to “clamp down” to stop the orgasm that you can practice while edging.

Just some input.

Excellent. I am still just scratching the surface of this. What you’re referring to sounds like an “etheric orgasm” (how I’ve heard it described by my meditation teacher) and I have not done a lot of work with it yet. I’ve tried a few times but I have not achieved what you describe here. Thank you

I enjoyed the reading, but genuine question that I can not comprenhend:

- Why everyone loves the no porn, no cumming but just edging or in this case sex, that is lately imposed around P.E forums?

And more importantly:

- What can you really achieve with this? More control over your orgasm?

Appreciate your feedback. I don’t claim to be the originator of any idea shared here - nowhere in my post did I claim to have invented or pioneered a single part of this - just sharing my experience with what I do, that works for me, since I just had to do it the other night! I first learned of refraining through orgasm from one of Samael Aun Weor’s books maybe 12 or so years ago - so if anyone is responsible for my journey down this path, it would be him in the beginning. “All glory to the teacher!”

Understand your perspective re: your experience with women’s reactions. My experience has been 180º different from yours. My wife was in shock and awe just as I described in my example. I don’t know if this comes down to how we communicate before, during, and after, or what. I think perhaps the writing style I used here, with emphasis and enthusiasm on certain things, may be giving you the impression that it’s more dramatic than it is. Really - no big deal. To tell your girl to stop and don’t move for a second while you hold this thing…is not a big deal. Shouldn’t be a big deal for anyone. It’s just communicating during sex.

A girl is allowed to tell you to stop if something hurts or rubs wrong, right? I remember a new girl I was with kept trying to kick me off her every time she was about to have a g-spot orgasm. She had never had one before. She thought she was going to pee on me. She was allowed to kick me off her, right?

So explain to me why it’s wrong in any way for a man to stop for a moment.
He has the right to stop and control his body however he chooses. The girl is not entitled to her orgasm more than he’s entitled to stop his own.
Just speaking logically and equitably here.

No one want’s to ruin their girl’s orgasm mid-cum - but if this is her 20th orgasm tonight, and you don’t want to bust yet - I feel like she can deal with one partial orgasm in exchange for another 20 more after you’ve successfully held your accidental orgasm. Again - in my opinion - this is not a big deal (at all). This is a non-issue. But I respect that others may disagree. I realize some guy/girl combos out there aren’t “easy cummers” and maybe she’ll just be having a handful of orgasms - but I still feel she could easily trade one partial for an additional one or two after the guy has regained his composure. Just my opinion. Perhaps guys whose girls are lucky to get one or two solid orgasms should simply not consider my technique here.

The key to resolving any and all of these issues is: communication. In my opinion. I think some people just really struggle to communicate openly, especially about bedroom things. Otherwise what we’re discussing here would be a complete non-issue for everyone.

Thanks again for your input.

I had sex before I ever masturbated so the act or feeling of orgasm was foreign to me. I remember my friends dad teased us that we would only last 2 minutes so I made a point to not allow myself to orgasm early when I had sex. The first time I went 30 minutes and never came due to the girls parents coming home. I got serious blue balls and doctor told me I had to relax and let it happen. From this experience I think I learned how to hold back ejaculation. I’ve always been able to have several “dry” orgasms during sex. It involuntarily pulses like a normal orgasm I just don’t allow the semen out. My sensitivity and libido drop off like I had an orgasm but my erection remains and I can continue having sex. Occasionally I get to close and I have to kegal hard like you describe and pull out because sometimes that pulsing during the dry orgasm can be too much stimulation under your glans and then the semen gets released. This is very lackluster like it just flows out because you already orgasm’d.

I think PE has made me far more sensitive and I do struggle outlasting my wife to orgasm. Her having vaginal orgasms f*cks with my arousal and most often I have to pull completely out.

all good points my man!
I think you’re on a good path..

I consider it wasted if my girl don’t swallow it all down. There’s no way I could ever do this. I love when she drinks it all.

I have so many questions, doesn’t this sound a bit extreme? I can see wanting to stop premature ejaculation, but why bother not ejaculating? Like, scientifically, is there a reason? I respect your experience and I’m glad that it helps you. But in my personal experience, and experiences that I’ve read from others, partners (Men, women and the technicolor rainbow in-between) on a whole don’t mind a brief cuddle break during refraction. Or if you’re game is on point, continued manual/oral/some other 3rd creative thing so they can continue their journey while you “reload” as it were. Seems to put a lot of pressure on a man, specifically around his penis, to make or break the whole sexual interaction. What are your thoughts?

Definitely yes, more orgasm control and better performance in the bedroom with a real partner.

Not everyone is ready yet to start experimenting with cumming less. It’s definitely something that may come with age as we feel the energy drain from ejaculating often. So I don’t expect most young men to subscribe to semen retention much at all. But I’d definitely encourage all young men to save their cum for real life partners. So if they do masturbate - use that time for edging, but then shut it down and walk away without ejaculating. Go meet up with the GF or go find a GF haha (ideally).

I don’t personally put any “shame” on porn/masturbation/cumming. In my case those things were a learning path. That’s how I learned about sex and women in-depth before I ever got my hands on a real one. I view all things as a double-edged sword. There is a good side and a dangerous side to everything. Definitely true with how we use porn/masturbation/cumming. And it’s never too late to improve. Never too late to be better than we were yesterday.

This is a great story about how you learned stamina and endurance.

I laughed thinking about how opposite our first experiences were. Mine was the complete reverse - when I first entered a girl (nervous and maybe 35% EQ) I thought to myself…..”THIS is what all the fuss is about?” “This doesn’t feel like anything!”

Hahahaha

After a moment I started to get it :-) EQ started to go up and..yeah…it all worked out :-)

I’ve also experienced a dry/partial orgasm during sex but this is super rare and sporadic for me. I wish I could do it more often. Interesting to note these “fool your system” into thinking you’ve ejaculated, just like mine do - causing some refractory symptoms.

I know what you mean with the vag-gasms messing with your arousal. Some nights my wife’s cat is just ZAPPING me. Like a magnetic pull. Like a tractor beam. And her muscles inside just gorilla GRIP like crazy and milk me irresistibly. Her energy is sometimes just on fire like that and I too have trouble resisting too many of her orgasms before I’m ready to pop.

If it’s that kind of night (often just before or during her ovulation) then her energetic pull on me is so strong that basically all I can do is make sure I take a pee break if I need one (bladder refilling can mess with my control) and then stop every 5-10mins to take oral breaks to cool off before going back to the v. I also stick with positions that don’t push me over the edge as much as others. Definitely doesn’t cure the problem, but helps me cope when she’s got her tractor beam going like that.

Haha can relate! My lady also savors the JUICE.

We saw some article about this lady who gets her guy friend to jerk off and save his sperm for her in a Tupperware container. She keeps it in her freezer. She puts it in smoothies and drinks it for health (which is totally true - major health benefit). Article: Single mum-of-two swears she never catches cold by drinking SPERM smoothies | The US Sun

But my wife, reading this, is like WHAT THE FUCK Why would you not get it from the source?!?! 😂

lmao and this poor friend-zoned guy jerking into Tupperware for this girl instead of just getting her 😂

I definitely see what you mean.

If I had to give a short answer to why I’d do this (my extreme refraining method) vs. just cumming and recharging - it would be because I’d rather go through the intense refraining process that lasts 60-seconds tops, than finish with a girl before I intended to (especially a new girl - trying to make a good impression, etc.) I don’t know if that makes sense to others who don’t put as much value on the male’s performance as I do. But even with your wife - say it’s date night and the kids are gone and your wife can be as loud as her heart desires - what if your unit is sensitive that night? What if you finish before you’re ready? Before she’s ready?

So, young and dating, or old and married - this technique has a place in the ol’ toolbox, in my opinion.

I mentioned in my second post (the Q&A details) that the core sexual driver for me has always been about pleasing beautiful women. The prettier she is, the more I make her cum, the more she loves me - the better I feel about myself. I feel part of this value system I have is just my “love language” and what I’m into. I want to make hot girls cum and love me haha. But I also feel some of this stems from some sort of insecurity - wanting to be good enough, man enough, wanting to be loved, etc.

I illustrate that to point out that possibly I do put a greater level of importance on my performance in the eyes of my partner for these kind of personal motivations and ego/insecurity reasons. And possibly others who put less value on their performance may not see the value in being able to refrain through an accidental orgasm like this. So I fully agree with you there.

Back in my dating days, if I had a really hot date - a girl I really really wanted to impress - I had a little trick I would do to make sure she got me at my best 😂
I’d rub one or two out earlier in the day to desensitize my unit.
Then during dinner and whatever we got into after - if it became clear that this was going to lead to the bedroom - I would go to the bathroom and quickly chew 50mg of Viagra I got off the internet 😂
I now had a desensitized unit with 120% EQ.
You can imagine how well that worked for my “performance” 😂

So yeah I guess I clearly prioritize performance so I may be weighting that higher than normal. I take your point.