ADS/Phallosan: necessary to stretch beyond erect length for gains?

Hey guys!
I have been using the Phallosan as an ADS for now 4 weeks and keep the tension light (high green).
The problem is, I heard this hypothesis “to make gains, you have to stretch the penis beyond it’s normal size to make gains.
E.g. If I’m at 15cm NBPEL, I have to stretch to let’s say 0.5-1cm more or 15.5-16cm flaccid in the Phallosan to make gains.
But with the light tension, I don’t get to this heavy stretch and expansion to 15.5+.
When I just put on the vacuum cup and pull the penis on the loop of the vacuum cup from the body away (straight parallel to the ground like you would measure it for maximum length),
I only reach 15cm stretched out with the high green tension, so maybe exactly my NBPEL.
Now, Im not sure if I can even gain with this light stretch.
Does anyone have experience with ADS and can tell me whether it is necessary to stretch beyond the BPEL?

All the best

Nobody knows anything?

From my experience yes.

My understanding is that for an ADS, even light tension is adequate. That’s completely theoretical knowledge on my part though. I’ve had my ADS for a couple of months, and though I’ve seen flaccid gains, no erect gains yet. There won’t be for the next couple of months either, as I’ve taken a break leading up to my vasectomy.

I doubt that many people could tolerate bring stretched past their normal erect length for the 12 hrs a day that an ADS should be worn. Maybe I’m wrong though

I don’t know the answer, but I had a light stretcher and stopped using it because I didn’t feel it would do anything. If you have tight hamstrings, do you only stretch to the point that you feel a little tension? Will you become more flexible? No…you need to stretch beyond that. How does that apply to a penis? Not sure if it’s a direct correlation, but the penis is filled with lots of stretchy tissue, so unless you’re going beyond your “normal”, I don’t know how it can become your “new normal”. My BPEL is 6.25-6.5 on a good day with a ring. My BPSL is 7.25”. I under my Restorex and can get stretched to 7”. Also, when I pump, I get to 6.25” for a little while, but after heating for awhile, I try to push it to 7”. Is it working? I don’t know…I think so. My wife just commented this weekend. I think I used to be 5.75”, but I always take that with a grain of salt, because I’m not sure if I really pushed that hard when I took my measurements. Still, if the little lady says it feels bigger, then that’s what matters, right?

My understanding of the real value in an ADS is to keep you in an elongated state for extended periods, while healing from more strenuous exercises.

Thanks Azmike, you might already know this, but we wrote dms on pegym :-) .
Im just trying to collect data from other users here to increase my knowledge.
You bring up very clear and logical points, Gurks.
10h a day stretch beyond my BPEL sounds hard, Im also not 100% sure.
Mike03016 is also a great Phallosan gainer and he confirms your view that it is NOT necessary for an ADS to stretch beyond BPEL.

What I can say with 100% confidence is you don’t need another device than the Phallosan to gain generally. The data on that is extremely clear.
So it can be a great extension, but it works on its own 100%, Gurks.
It may only not work for everybody. I will keep on wearing it till Christmas and see what happens.
I have increased the tension to yellow, this should suffice.

I’m still a newbie but I can add the following.

I had Achilles tendinitis for well over a year. I would constantly stretch it with some temporary help. Every day I would feel my right Achilles ripping as it flexed when I walked. Again, the daily stretches only helped a bit for that day. I sleep face down so my foot points down and that’s how it healed. Next day when the foot makes a 90 degree angle, it has to rip the tendon to get back to that position. Small rips but it was not pleasant at all. They sell a boot which holds your foot at 90 degrees when you sleep. It healed at 90 degrees. Within a week, problem solved. I might wear the boot once a month or few months, for a quick tune up.

I am convinced this same concept flows over to the penis. Look at how people extend their earlobes or necks….

By the way, I just started using Xinolith’s Cock Coil. Holy WOW!!! AWESOME!!!! Check it out.

Good luck on your journey. Many paths to success.
I always stretched beyond my BPEL. My BPSFL grew first and BPEL always followed. I wear my Stealth to maintain my length and prevent turtling. I agree with time under tension but some have succeeded with far greater tension for shorter durations.

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Thanks Azmike, you might already know this, but we wrote dms on pegym :-) .
Im just trying to collect data from other users here to increase my knowledge.
You bring up very clear and logical points, Gurks.
10h a day stretch beyond my BPEL sounds hard, Im also not 100% sure.
Mike03016 is also a great Phallosan gainer and he confirms your view that it is NOT necessary for an ADS to stretch beyond BPEL.

What I can say with 100% confidence is you don’t need another device than the Phallosan to gain generally. The data on that is extremely clear.
So it can be a great extension, but it works on its own 100%, Gurks.
It may only not work for everybody. I will keep on wearing it till Christmas and see what happens.
I have increased the tension to yellow, this should suffice.
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C,

Any updates, how is it going?

Are you using it with the ring bending your unit it half or differently?

How are you doing with tension in the yellow zone?

Good stretch or too much?

Hey Mike!
Thanks for your interest :-) . Be assured I’m 100% committed and wear it ever single day, 8h minimum.
No rest day, no excuse hahah. I don’t want to measure before 1st of November, so I cannot comment on gains yet.
However, I’m doing everything as well as I can. I will write an extremely comprehensive report after my first 1cm gain.
But I will gladly answer your questions.

1) I switch 2-3 times a day. Sometimes like you described. Sometimes, I use the ring as a balls ring. The itching on the penis itself is very manageable so far
and I want to keep everything simple.
2) To moisten my glans and the shaft where the pressure from the ring was all day, I use cheap cocoabutter. A great guy from PEgym told me this
and it is cheap and works wonders. I apply it before going to sleep and everything heals very well during my 8-8.5 hours.
3) Tension is high yellow. I can tolerate it very well.
4) I think I cannot get too much of a stretch with the Phallosan :-D. I seem to be pretty resistant in that regard. I feel a very light pull in the high yellow zone.

So far, so good. PIs are as they were before the usage, maybe very slightly better.
I will measure again every first day of the month and as said before, give you guys a very comprehensive review after my first cm of gains.
This is to make sure I really gained. Even if I gain 0.5 cm, it is still too new and too little for me to be 100% sure.
But if I really gain my first 1 cm with PE, Im 100% convinced and it is impossible to deny the effect.
No matter how bad I was measuring or if my EQ was a bit worse, after the first cm it is safe for me to say it works :-) .

Don’t worry much about the measuring stuff yet… or results yet.
What is important is you have good PI’s and have a nice comfortable stretch that you can manage for some hours.

As weird as it may be… I do know using the PF bent over with the ring will produce you results.

Good luck C and great report and progress!

Keep the good work CBateman!

Don’t take measurements too often.

Be patient and gains will come.

DJ :-)

About three days ago For about $25 I converted my VacExtender vacuum head cap into an effective ADS using the principles of the Phallosan.

i attached the vacuum cap to the glans of my penis. I then slid the universal silicone base cushion from VacExtender ($20) down to the base of my penis. I hooked one end of a 36” bungy cord to the hook on the glans cap and stretched the bungy around my waist and hooked the other end around the base cushion around the base of my penis. It stretched my normal 4” flaccid to about 5.5.”

Since I started using it as an all day stretcher, I have increased my dick stretching time from 3.5 hours to at least 6 hours. At night, I use my ADS configuration for an hour or two followed by an hour in the extender. I then use the ADS configuration for at least an hour so my dick “heals” in an extended state. Today I will get in at least 9 hours of stretching.

@Dtwarren a bit hard to visualize your rig, but what was your gains journey with this ADS routine? I see you gained 0.9".