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You are perfectly fine, you just need to set your mind right about it. Rather than stressing about what girls prefer, think about what you prefer about them instead.

Women or a relationship don’t bring happiness regardless of how big you are. Your mind and how you think does though.

Originally Posted by giveitashot99
The average non size queen girl needs at least 5 inches girth to get off and i am far away from that.

Nonsense. Average girth is around 4.6”.

My tongue and fingers are responsible for many more orgasms than my dick is. Learn to enjoy foreplay and your girl will come back for more.

If you keep holding off sex until everything is perfect, you will never have sex.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

You’re viewing your unhappiness through your dick. Work on the other parts of your life, not the part below your belt. You yourself say that it’s a hideous idea and you link to a picture of a ruined dick. Later in the thread, you say, “I might do it.” Come on, man.

Thanks for trying 32quarters but thea verage is 5, maybe 4.85 but not under, i know the numbers unfortunatley. My dick size is my only problem Don Longan, i know that you hear it all the times but believe me that for me this is really true.

I will start with the newbie routine again soon, i have to solve my paraphymosis first and also get in good physical and mental form. I make my life around growing my penis, like switch diet, take up running, get good sleep,exercise with PE. But starting with 4.4, knowing that i could maybe get to 4.75 and even that is debateble…

I would love to talk in person to someone who has achieved let’s say 0.75 inches in girth. I want to believe that this is possible but i just don’t know. Thanks guys.

Originally Posted by giveitashot99
I would love to talk in person to someone who has achieved let’s say 0.75 inches in girth. I want to believe that this is possible but i just don’t know. Thanks guys.

That is close to what I gained in girth and hopefully I can get a bit more even though I’m happy where I am right now.

But it took me close to 10 years of PE work and dedication with loads of ups and downs and some small injury along the way to get there.

PE has to be something that you do for purely health benefits and pleasure like any sport, not something you focus your life on, because the moment it doesn’t go the way you hope it would (and it happens a lot in your PE journey) your mind starts going in a dark place and you don’t want that.

To give you a very clear example of how much size matters my current partner is a 24 year old girl and she is nasty in bad. She is into rimming, blowjobs with finger in my ass and absolutely loves heavy BDSM. Never seen anything like this before and my old partners were all good in bed and loved sex.

I met her through a friend of mine who was hooking up with her for a few months then things didn’t work out for a few reasons, so after 6 months they broke up I started dating her.

Knowing both of them quite well I can tell you that this guy is probably your size or close to it. You might think that a girl like this would require more than that but she was super into him and took her a while to get over the fact that he broke up with her.

She always told me that he was really good in bed and that if you are like that size doesn’t mean that much if not at all. They have sex with you because of who you are or represent for her, not for your penis.

That being said, she had an affair last year with a guy that apparently was a girth monster to how she describes it (i’m on the larger side but nothing crazy like that) and the hook ups barely lasted a month or 2, you know why? Cause he sucked in bed, didn’t care about her pleasure and was actually hurting her sometimes during sex because of very poor foreplay and terrible technique.

So the final point is that YOU make the sex good by being a passionate and a charm man, not your dick. And as long as you don’t have a micro penis which is an unfortunate medical condition you can have even girls that are into crazy sex to really want you. Be masculine, stay in your frame and believe in yourself and you can have a lot of women.

For me it’s not about hooking up. Even the girls that have commented on this have came back for more. I didn’t even go down on them and i told you that my 4.4 thick pencil wouldn’t make them orgasm. It’s about the fact that maybe over 4-5 years from now i would maybe want something stable and you can not keep someone with what i have unless i find a substitute for my dick, like fingering or oral. And i don’t want to do that every night to keep someone, i’ rather die alone and that’s it. I’ve always beem good with foreplay but never made a girl have an orgasm with this. I usually stop when they tell me that they want me inside them and then observe how sometimes i don’t feel anything and neither do they. Having a thin dick for sex is like having a physical disability and trying to play sports. You won’t be good at it unless you find a substitue. But i want to make her feel good with my penis, like it’s supposed to be…

Another think that makes me go crazy is that i know that other guys are just born bigger and i can not accept that i am born inferior. I may have to find some therapy. This seems lile a good place to be after you have set your mind right

How much did you gain in the first year? Girth only. How much did you start with Accro. You don’t have a progress report or something that i can inspire from.

The therapy seems to me like a good option to start with, it will help a lot. I’m in therapy myself for some stuff and i can guarantee you that a professional shrink can change your life. It did for me in my teenage years and it’s doing it now.

Seems to me you have a very “job-like” view of sex rather than “pleasure-journey” experience, which is what sex is. I’ve experienced heavy sexual performance anxiety myself sometimes in the past, it can happen to all of us, you can find even in the recent threads some dude with 8x6,5 (pictures measured) considering surgery because he thought he looked small. I told you already, the mind is the issue not the penis.

To answer your questions regarding my PE journey, i didn’t gain jack shit in my first two years, neither lenght or girth. I was 20 years old, found thundersplace and lurked for many years until i developed my english and joined as a member in 2015. My manual exercises technique was terrible and had barely any idea what i was doing to my penis, took me two years to find out a way that was working with my penis.

To be completly honest with you i’ve never been measurement obsessed or never tracked too much, i always tryed measure and taking pictures but i just can’t, i lose my erection quite quickly focusing on the process of measuring which always causes wrong measurements. Also my erections are massive when i’m with a woman compared to when i stimulate myself, and i obviously never asked a girl to measure my dick to take pictures.

All i know is that i started with a 6.5/7 BPL and 5.2/3 MSEG 5.5/6 BEG. After sticking to manuals for 6 years not being very consistent (also because o many times i overtrained due to poor technique) i reached 6.7 BPL, 5.4 MSEG and 5.7/8 BEG.During these 6 years i developed not great gains you could say but insane improvements in EQ and my penis looked decently more vascular. I’m sure that if i took a less “reckless teenage” approach to PE i could’ve probably gained a bit more but i started to believe that once you find the right track the gains can come and the theories that say that you can potentially “burn” gains if you overtrain too much are not accurate. In fact after 7 consistent years of PE out of 10 i’m still gaining and not so slowly.

After noticing my gains stopped completly with manuals i was scared to try clamping cause it looked stupid and extreme to me but thank god i risked it because it was what changed my PE life forever
Clamping really changed my penis both in EQ and in size. I started very slowly in mid 2018 and now i’m sitting at 7.2 BPL 5.6/7 MSEG and 6 BEG in my best days. My base for some reason seems to gain much much easier than the rest of the shaft, probably because of the shape of my penis being a bit upwards and having a larger base.

I can tell you that when i started i was insecure about my size and i was for a decent amount of years after. PE gains gave me a lot of confidence but nothing gave me confidence like changing my mentality and starting to love myself more for what i am and most importantly take sex as PLEASURE JOURNEY not a PERFORMANCE ACT. Girls that only value your time just because you are good or bad at sex are a waste of time, get rid of them if you find any.

Even before starting PE girls always complimented my size which was just slightly above average but i never believed them and thought they were just being nice but now 10 years after i know the truth. To be completly honest with you i do PE for ego and health reasons and because as almost as every man in this world nowadays, i’ve been intoxicated with the porn mentality that huge MUST be good otherwise the rest is trash, which is false because you can see plenty of very famous pornstars that have even average or slightly above average sizes that are super requested and loved by women outside the cameras, think about Johnny Sins or James Dean.

I don’t track my progress, and never did nor will but you can find some pictures change over the years in one of my threads, even though i think i uploaded last picture almost 4 years ago.

Enjoy your PE journey buddy.


Last edited by Accro : 11-09-2021 at .

Originally Posted by giveitashot99
Thanks for trying 32quarters but thea verage is 5, maybe 4.85 but not under, i know the numbers unfortunatley. My dick size is my only problem Don Longan, i know that you hear it all the times but believe me that for me this is really true.
I will start with the newbie routine again soon, i have to solve my paraphymosis first and also get in good physical and mental form. I make my life around growing my penis, like switch diet, take up running, get good sleep,exercise with PE. But starting with 4.4, knowing that i could maybe get to 4.75 and even that is debateble…
I would love to talk in person to someone who has achieved let’s say 0.75 inches in girth. I want to believe that this is possible but i just don’t know. Thanks guys.


You are wrong. Average noted below is 4.59”.
I gained 1” girth pumping with a heat pad.

Human penis size - Wikipedia


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

The study also says that the average length is 5.17 inches. It seems that wikiledia gives the lower end of the average size as the actual average.

Congrats on your gains. If i was your initial size i wouldn’t have taken up PE anyways. I see that you measure with the c ring on. Without it you are maybe 0.25 thinner, or less thick better said. So 0.75 of permanent girth gain with pumping. Sounds great.

I only want 0.5 so that i will be 4.9 but if i get there i don’t think i would ever stop.

Originally Posted by giveitashot99
I may do it after i try PE of course. The average non size queen girl needs at least 5 inches girth to get off and i am far away from that. Man this sucks so much… i passed every sex opportunity for the last…more than 6 months now. I was thinking maybe i can get a fast solution to my problem. Amyways thanks for your opinions. I hope that one day, somehow i will be normal. 0.6 inch girth gain seems much and it’s frustrating that there is not definite photo proof that this works. Even 0.5 inches girth gain seems rare and girls often prefer larger that the average 5 inches anyways.

This whole idea that a woman “needs” a specific girth to “get off” is bullshit. Men that focus on girth as the only tool they have to “get a woman off” are never going to get a woman anything. Vaginal penetration is not the only way to make a woman cum. If you believe that, you are flat out doing it wrong, and by “it” I don’t just mean sex, I mean everything involving a woman.

You ARE normal, right now. But thinking the way you are thinking is really not normal. At all. If you believe that girth is everything, then you’ll never ever stand a chance with a real woman. You’re better off with a size queen then.

I know a woman who can cum, hard, from only nipple play, while they have their pants and panties on still (hell, even shoes on, too). Why can this woman cum from only nipple play? Because I know how to get her off. And the key to a woman’s orgasmic potential is not a male penis.

I would spend time and money learning about the female body and how it works instead of doing PE or spending money on dangerous, disgusting injections. If you can get your woman hot enough it won’t matter if you’re strapped like a #2 pencil. She’s already cumming, so a penis just continues the orgasms.

Lastly, pleasuring a woman has a lot more to do with mental connections than physical connections. Physical connection is better if there’s a mental connection. You make it sound like, because of girth, you just put it in her pussy and she’ll cum regardless of what’s going on, who you are, who she is, and what you two have in common. That’s not how sex works most of the time! Are you saying you did not have sex when you had the chance because you think you don’t have the right girth to make a woman cum from penis-in-vagina sex? Dude, you should be getting laid as much as possible. If they want you, they want YOU, not just your cock.


Starting length, Spring 2003: bpel 6 3/8", bpfsl ~6 1/2", flaccid ~3-4" (never measured flaccid stretched or hanging flaccid; starting girth was probably ~5"-5 1/4")

Summer 2004: bpel 7 7/8", bpfsl 8 1/8", flaccid ~4", erect girth 5.3"

Spring 2018: bpel 7 1/4", bpfsl 7 5/8", erect girth 5 1/8"; Spring 2020: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth 5 3/8". Current - August 2023: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth mid shaft 5 1/4" (5 1/2" at base)

Unfortunately it seems the op is one of those always negative people: the sky is falling, glass is half empty, always finding the negative, always looking for an excuse. Until he gets his mental attitude straightened out he is not going to have success with PE or even worse, with women. He has to learn to get out of his own way. His biggest impediment is him.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by 32quarters

Unfortunately it seems the op is one of those always negative people: the sky is falling, glass is half empty, always finding the negative, always looking for an excuse. Until he gets his mental attitude straightened out he is not going to have success with PE or even worse, with women. He has to learn to get out of his own way. His biggest impediment is him.

Correct!

Ok so tell me what the positive atitude should look like. No sarcasm, no nothing. I feel like i might approach it in a bad way so i am curious to listen. If the correct mental atitude involves being satisfied with what i have then i am far from it.

It sucks really bad to be so much under 5. Sorry for the negativity but i don’t know what to do. I can’t feel good about myself if i am not at least average.

You want to tell me that the good thing is to go out there and pretend that the problem is not there? Well i don’t want to be again in the situation where i’m having sex and i can’t feel anything or worse, she can’t feel anything. It’s easy to be positive when you are average and you’re only doing it for sports.

I don’t want to get in my way of succeeding but i can not be satisfied with what i have, neither an average girl only if i lick pussy for life. Not quite my picture of ideal relationship but…wtf genetics. You gave me pencil pipi now i lick pussy for life or i never have a relationship. I may sound negative but this is just how life is. Let’s hope that this website is not a huge fake and the hard work pays off and in the end i will reach normality. Not that i’m not normal but i mean the side of normality that is not sexually useless unless of course, again, you lick pussy all your life. I am starting to believe more and more. There must be some truth in all this content. There must be a way.

Life sucks but this seems to be the nature of it. We can only make it less shitty. Nice hearing how pumped member can make a woman cum just but pinching the nipples but believe me that no matter how good you are, when you enter and she is really wet, my 6.4x4.4 goes through like nothing is happening. I speak from my exprience unfortunatley. No need fo sugarcoating this is all i say.

Let me ask you; have you started PE yet?

Ok, i get your point, i think.

I’ve been experimenting with newbie routine for like 3-4 weeks. I saw an improvement but i don’t want to say anything. Why didn’t i continue? I have read a book about pe and the book says that thunder’s is legit, somehow, but diet and physical shape are the most important factors. My situation with both is bad. Why don’t i start working on it tommorrow? Now this is where i might get your point.

I understand how being positive helps but man i am 0.6 inches away from being average…and women honestly prefer more. Again, no need to lie about this. This is the truth. Interesting that the book also has a chapter about how a positive state of mind is required.

Man, i hope you guys know what you’re saying and you are honest about your gains.

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