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Originally Posted by giveitashot99
Ok, i get your point, i think.
I’ve been experimenting with newbie routine for like 3-4 weeks. I saw an improvement but i don’t want to say anything. Why didn’t i continue? I have read a book about pe and the book says that thunder’s is legit, somehow, but diet and physical shape are the most important factors. My situation with both is bad. Why don’t i start working on it tommorrow? Now this is where i might get your point.
I understand how being positive helps but man i am 0.6 inches away from being average…and women honestly prefer more. Again, no need to lie about this. This is the truth. Interesting that the book also has a chapter about how a positive state of mind is required.
Man, i hope you guys know what you’re saying and you are honest about your gains.

Again you are promoting the lie. Average girth is 4.59” so your 4.4” is less than 1/4” from it. 68% of men have girth in the range of 4.06” - 5.1”

https://calcsd.info/chart.html


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

You have been here for more that 7 months whining about your stats and you just recently decided to try PE because of some book? Wonder what things would be like if you started PE months ago? Amazing!

I feel like before starting, you have to do the reading. This is serious, bad things can happen if you do it wrong.
32 quarters i think we both know that on the internet we will find average girth between 4.5 and 5 inches. Now if you google women’s opinion you will find that 5 inches is a minimum. Let’s say 4.9, say 4.85. Let me show you another website with similar statistics.

Penis Size

Originally Posted by giveitashot99
I feel like before starting, you have to do the reading. This is serious, bad things can happen if you do it wrong.
32 quarters i think we both know that on the internet we will find average girth between 4.5 and 5 inches. Now if you google women’s opinion you will find that 5 inches is a minimum. Let’s say 4.9, say 4.85. Let me show you another website with similar statistics.

Penis Size


Those statistics are from the Kinsey report from the 1940/50’s and which was widely believed to accurate until modern studies disproved it. The largest inaccuracy attributed to the Kinsey report was that the statistics are self reported. Over time, self reported measurements have shown to have larger values than those measured by medical staff and so are viewed as less credible. Since no guy has ever lied about their size, one wonders why there is a difference {sarcasm}.

The second study is also a self reported internet solicited survey. Nothing scientific about it.

Multiple studies with medical staff measured values have since been conducted and while they do not have exactly the same values, they are all close and so corroborate those values reported in wikipedia.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.


Last edited by 32quarters : 11-09-2021 at .

From my sexual experience, 4.4 is under average. Confirmed by a girl which is like 31 and has had many parteners. She was one of the 2 that said that she did have piv orgasm from my dick. She also said that she was tight and this is why she came, also said that most of the girls would not find it satisfying. The other one nearly broke my dick. I have had sex with around 25 women. 4.4 girth is no dealbreaker when it comes to relationships, assuming that ofc she likes the other stuff about you. But do not expect to make girls cum with your dick only. There may be a few but from my experience less then one in ten.

If you want a relationship, you will surely find someone. Either a tight girl or a girl who preffers other types of orgasms, not piv. Being 4.4 in girth does not make you sick, just unable to make most of the women cum with your dick only. This is my experience so far.

Also the general opinion of women on the internet is that the averave is 5 or that they want at least 5. I think that 4.85 is close enough and i will assume that this is the average. Most of the studies suggest that the average girth is right under 5.

I think that the most significant opinion is what the women say when it comes to this matter.

I am going to throw in a new perspective. Condoms. The regular condoms, at least in Europe, has a circumference of 105 millimeters, or about 4 inches. ( one inch is 25,4 millimeter). Xl condoms has a circumference of 120 mm, or about 4,75 inches. There is an option for those who wants smaller than regular condoms, but I do not know what size they are.

My point is, why do you think that 4 inch circ is called a regular size ? ( actually there isn’t any label saying regular on them, just the S and the XL have labels). Yes I know that the length of the condom is also taken into consideration when labelling a brand of condoms, but length/circ is usually counted for.

Originally Posted by giveitashot99
Also the general opinion of women on the internet is that the averave is 5 or that they want at least 5. I think that 4.85 is close enough and i will assume that this is the average. Most of the studies suggest that the average girth is right under 5.
I think that the most significant opinion is what the women say when it comes to this matter.

One could have a full time job providing true data correcting your made up opinions, but that would be a waste of their time as you would continue to scour the internet to find some obscure piece of information that holds to your beliefs. I am done. You can continue to live in your own little make believe world and continue to believe your made up ideas. Best of luck.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by giveitashot99
From my sexual experience, 4.4 is under average. Confirmed by a girl which is like 31 and has had many parteners. She was one of the 2 that said that she did have piv orgasm from my dick. She also said that she was tight and this is why she came, also said that most of the girls would not find it satisfying. The other one nearly broke my dick. I have had sex with around 25 women. 4.4 girth is no dealbreaker when it comes to relationships, assuming that ofc she likes the other stuff about you. But do not expect to make girls cum with your dick only. There may be a few but from my experience less then one in ten.
If you want a relationship, you will surely find someone. Either a tight girl or a girl who preffers other types of orgasms, not piv. Being 4.4 in girth does not make you sick, just unable to make most of the women cum with your dick only. This is my experience so far.

Yes, exactly what you said: less than one in ten cums from penetration alone. Very few women actually can. Is penis size related to that? I don’t think so, because they don’t achieve climax even alone or with dildos and toys inserted.

You are basing a meaningful, wholesome, sexual relationship solely on the ability to make a girl orgasm from PiV sex. What has this world come to? What have men resorted to??!! I think I’m taking crazy pills anymore I swear


Starting length, Spring 2003: bpel 6 3/8", bpfsl ~6 1/2", flaccid ~3-4" (never measured flaccid stretched or hanging flaccid; starting girth was probably ~5"-5 1/4")

Summer 2004: bpel 7 7/8", bpfsl 8 1/8", flaccid ~4", erect girth 5.3"

Spring 2018: bpel 7 1/4", bpfsl 7 5/8", erect girth 5 1/8"; Spring 2020: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth 5 3/8". Current - August 2023: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth mid shaft 5 1/4" (5 1/2" at base)

Originally Posted by 32quarters
One could have a full time job providing true data correcting your made up opinions, but that would be a waste of their time as you would continue to scour the internet to find some obscure piece of information that holds to your beliefs. I am done. You can continue to live in your own little make believe world and continue to believe your made up ideas. Best of luck.

Well put 32, I wish I had read this post of yours before I just posted after you.


Starting length, Spring 2003: bpel 6 3/8", bpfsl ~6 1/2", flaccid ~3-4" (never measured flaccid stretched or hanging flaccid; starting girth was probably ~5"-5 1/4")

Summer 2004: bpel 7 7/8", bpfsl 8 1/8", flaccid ~4", erect girth 5.3"

Spring 2018: bpel 7 1/4", bpfsl 7 5/8", erect girth 5 1/8"; Spring 2020: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth 5 3/8". Current - August 2023: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth mid shaft 5 1/4" (5 1/2" at base)

-a girth of less than 4.7″ needs a snug fit.

-a girth of 4.7–5.1″ needs a regular fit.

-a girth of 5.1–6″ needs a large fit.

This is what google says about choosing a condom. Is it a coincidence that regulars are used by 4.7-5.1 girth guys? I don’t think so. I think that this is the average girth.

I don’t know if you understand the fact that i’ve had some sexual experience until now and most of the girls find my dick skinny. I am not sure how you are trying to convince me. The girls’ opinions are ofc more relevant. They have seen it, they have seen others, they find it skinny. Between your opinion and theirs, i tend to go with them. Even the statistic from whis website puts the average at 4.85.

Originally Posted by giveitashot99

-a girth of less than 4.7″ needs a snug fit.

-a girth of 4.7–5.1″ needs a regular fit.

-a girth of 5.1–6″ needs a large fit.

This is what google says about choosing a condom. Is it a coincidence that regulars are used by 4.7-5.1 girth guys? I don’t think so. I think that this is the average girth.

I don’t know if you understand the fact that i’ve had some sexual experience until now and most of the girls find my dick skinny. I am not sure how you are trying to convince me. The girls’ opinions are ofc more relevant. They have seen it, they have seen others, they find it skinny. Between your opinion and theirs, i tend to go with them. Even the statistic from whis website puts the average at 4.85.

Then simply go and do what you want and think the way you want. No need to hound guys here about size and girth and crap.

And again you reference debunked studies.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

I didn’t mean to hound anyone.I said that it was not a deal breaker, only on the thinner side, not that far away from averge. I fact, PE seems the best way to become average. There are threads about guys who went from 4.33 to above 5.

A good example:

PE for Life.

Thanks for the answers, i will end this discussion here. It is not related to original title anyway.

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