Does ligament play a role in PE

So I’ve been reading a lot and one thread talk about how penile surgery doesn’t warrant gain by cutting the ligament, however the gain is from post-operation hanging.

This raises a question: Then why do the doctor cut the ligament? To weaken the ligament and make hanging easier? Or just kill the erection angle and make it hang lower and thus give you the illusion of being bigger? Of course, assuming the ligament is only cut partially but not completely.

Does the length gain while doing PE even come from ligament? Or just the expansion of tunica? It seems to me that ligament should be a easy target for growth, but does it even play a role at all?

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Could somebody explain me one thing ?

What’s the difference between partially and completely cutting the ligament. I’m interested in the effect, not a medical procedure.

I think partially cutting the lig means cutting the part that is present outside the pubic bone. Some surgeons cut the ligs deep under the pubic bone and this is what causes the penis to hang dramatically low and even point downwards when erect. It also causes instability, so certain sexual positions can be difficult.

So does stretching the penis strait out or upward hit the ligaments less than stretching downward? This seems to be the general view here, but I figured I’d ask in-case some people don’t agree with that view.

If you stretch straightout or downwards you should be able to feel that there is very little tension on the ligs. This is why the lig doesn’t actually stop the penis getting any longer when erect. The penis points up or outwards in most cases when erect and the ligs aren’t holding this back, ubless you have abnormally short ligs. Hence if you cut it, you won’t see erect gains in the large majority of cases.

If you stretch straight down then the tension of the ligs will be much greater. This is becasue the purpose of the ligs is to hold the penis up against the pubic bone. By pulling downwards, the ligs are being strecthed and will cause the penis to hang lower, but not stretch out longer.

So even the so called “newbie inch” are all about tunica expansion, but not ligament at all? People that gain more than 1.5 inches are all from tunica?

Yes, in my opinion.

I find it suspect that the majority of PE surgery patients gains come from using traction devices after the operation. I think this operation probably weakens the ligs in the penis enough to respond to the traction devices pull.

If one conditions their penis, one could see the same results (if not better) over time. Obviously the only reason to risk having this operation is to experience the gains sooner. The cost (not covered by insurance) and potential damage to the penis far outweigh the gains that could be had from safer manual PE.

Here is my take:

The amount of potential length gain from stretching ligs varies. How much you stand to gain from it depends on what you’re starting with. If a guy’s existing shaft length is initially constrained by tight ligs, stretching them will result in more length expression of the shaft, this being independent of any actual shaft enlargement that also occurs. You’re simply freeing the shackles.

Is the shaft sticking out farther and measuring longer than it did before an illusion? No.

Some (probably relatively few percentage wise) begin with a substantial amount of existing length held back by ligs, which is why they gain extremely well from lig stretching exercises or even surgical severing (yuck!). Others won’t get any length gain from stretching or severing ligs because their ligs weren’t a limiting factor to begin with. Most likely fall somewhere in between.

I think that when your ligs have been stretched enough to no longer be a limiting factor, focusing effort on stretching them even more isn’t productive.

Hanging may work deeper supporting structures in a way that allows for some more existing shaft length to be expressed. I’m just throwing this out for speculation. The anchoring down there is pretty stout, but who knows?

Gains from PE come from a combination of ligament stretching and the shaft itself enlarging.

I stretched the hell out of my ligs. The ligs that surgeons would cut are not a factor for me. I would not gain anything in length if they were to be severed today unless I were to cheat on my standard measuring method (ruler on pubic bone, penis straight out). Of course, I could do that without surgery. My erection angle dropped a little from PE, but it was quite high to begin with.