Experience with gains via manual exercises alone

My question is pretty simple:

Has anyone been able to consistently Gain in length via manual exercises alone beyond the initial first Inch of gains?

If so, what kind of routine was followed? Thanks for any comments!

I did, I gained 4.5 cm in length. My routine has changed from time to time.

Many people have.

Actually, 20cent, you should read up on Memento’s routine. His is a routine you could perform manually (I think it’s in the hangers forum) and build some muscles in your forearms in the process. I do not yet have a functioning hanger (I use and ADS) but I perform my stretches according to Mem’s instructions and Things are progressing. I have officially gained .75” in BPEL since October 2005.

The trick with this PE stuff (as I am still learning) is to consistently work past where you want to stop. People in general are impatient and lazy. You must set aside enough time to work that unit hard…and then just when you think you want to quit, work it 10 minutes more.

No devices are needed to make this work for you. Tenacity is required, however.

Ask Vanloon about it.

He has gained 5,5 cm length from manual exercise’s.

Yes, I notice there are quite a few who have begun with something like a newbies routine, and many gains later, are still getting good results. This is what I’m interested in.

For example, Memento, your fantastic gains in Q4 2002: were they achieved with just jelqing, ulis, stretching (and modified asanas!)?
In your ulis did you regularly apply any complicated grips, or just straightforward stuff like bending? Did you experience any seeming plateaus? Sorry for all the questions!

My respect, Bird2 - good work! Were you able to make all your gains without hanging or stretching devices? Do you think you could have made the gains without clamping?

Additional comments, suggestions welcome!

I made all my gains manual, with the exception of clamping for 10 days. In this 10 days I gained the final 0.5cm in girth I wanted. Looking back I wished I started clamping sooner but I would gained that 0.5cm eventually, even when I didn’t clamp.

I personally believe many guys here start pumping or hanging way to soon. Manual exercises have more advances than pumping or stretching and gains come at least as easy with manual exercises with most people. Only start hanging or pumping when manual or clamping doesn’t work for you.

Hey Bird2, thanks. I concur. Some of the advantages that come to mind: zero set-up time, stealth, control, simplicity, safety, consistency.

Difficulties: getting a steady prolonged stretch with significant force.

My basic working hypothesis regarding a manual approach is that if one can come up with exercises to increase length, automatically the exercises will be such that girth gains will follow. When researching one of the threads that caught my attention was The Experiment, Group B, based on Luvdadus’ newbie routine combining jelqing and manual stetches at regular intervals during the day. As far as I can tell, the participants got good results, so it seems this basic approach is founded in sound principles.

In the comments on The Experiment someone mentions the Bulgarian Burst, a term from bodybuilding which advocates training three times daily. In this context I found some information on periodization. Periodization generally implies (semi-)methodical variation in training. Such variation can occur for example in training volume and intensity, exercise selection, repetition speed and rest interval.

The plan now is roughly some kind of bulgarian bursted periodization drawing on a selection of exercises based on jelqing, manual stretch (possibly also V-stretch), kegels, uli’s and squeezes (uli #3/440’s etc.) and so on. I guess the next step is just to go for it, and figure things out along the way. Nevertheless, I’ll be shocked, shocked, if going about things in more or less this manner a gain of anywhere near an inch in the next year or so can be made.

Anyhow, the comments up to now have been helpful - thanks, and keep them coming!

20cent

This is a thread that might interest you:
Amazing Isometrics - expand gain potential and cut down PE duration

Bulgarian Burst training- shit, haven’t heard that in a decade or more! Sweet.

Bird2, thanks for the link and info.

Here’s my summary of the Isometric Exercise if I have correctly understood: Get rock hard, unit should be pointing upwards. Slowly push unit downwards with palm of hand until unit is parallel to ground. Do a slow kegel contracting PC muscle to build resistance between unit and palm/hand. Maintain resistance for 10-20 seconds, then let unit rise by lifting hand as kegel is slowly released. Do 3-5 sets.

AndroNYC, yes, Bulgarian Burst is the shit. Bulgarian Bursted Periodization will be the new black.

Just kidding. While trying to mentally summarize and give structure to a collection of things, I find naming and organizing ideas helps to remind oneself what one is doing. Part of the overall effort: Think long and hard in order to become same.

Looks like you are a quick learner :up:

Thanks. One organ down, one to go. C’mon 20cent Junior, learn, baby, learn.