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Originally Posted by richardfitswell
I’m not gonna tell you what to think, but in my opinion, you’ve got your priorities wrong…

BPEL is what matters when you’re fucking, not NBPEL. If you can’t get close to your BPEL inside a woman, either you’re simply too long for her, or you ain’t trying ;)

Second, most women aren’t nearly as obsessed with cocks as we ourselves are (certainly not on size exclusively) and they put a lot more weight on what sex actually feels with you than on how your penis looks when you take your pants off.

Personally, I’d rather my cock felt bigger inside her than it looked at first glance ;)

I don’t know about you, but I’m much happier having low expectations at the outset and being pleasantly surprised by something rather than starting with big expectations and having something not live up to them.

Here I dont agree with you and trust me if it was true what youre saying I was very happy. This is why I started PE. I want to go from under average to above average and Im getting to my goals hopefully very soon.

Now if the sex is good or not is very important of course but I have a lot of female friends because I started a education in the hospital and when theyre drunk they tell me everything.

The majority of these women are pretty and had a lot of bed partners. They say how good the sex is important but the eye wants something as well. So for example lets say I have a girlfriend and she loves me and my cock is 4.5 inch. Now shes very happy with me and shes not leaving me for my cock but if she can change my cock in 1 night from 4.5 inch to 6 inch shes gonna do it 100% sure. Same question as a rich boyfriend or not if she can change my bankaccount from €100 to €1million in 1 night she would do it. Now money wise you dont have the ability to be rich in 3 years thats very hard but you can grow your penis with PE so you are almost obliged to do PE if your cock is under 6 inch.

Some women are turned up by a above average looking cock. Now the worst thing is I started at 12.7 NBP and the average here seems like it is one of the highest in the world (around 15.87) so all I want is 15.9 (without fat loss gains). You have to understand how hard for me it is to hear these women talk about cocks when mine was very small, this is my highest motivation to achieve my goal so I can laught with them instead of feeling bad when theyre talking about above average cocks.

With other words: they say the length is very important because big cocks turn women on and sadly a 5 inch cock isnt big.

Now their are some women who wont care and I agree connection and looks are more important but a good cock is always welcome. I want to give my future wife and girlfriend to look at something and to give here something extra, I know how I can achieve it so I have to try.

To be fair if anyone here on this forum knows how to gain and you dont give the full 100% youre are not doing a great job. Maybe thats why some of us dont gain good because they are just not working hard enough.


Start: 15.1cm BPEL

Current: 16.9cm

Final goal: 7 inch

Originally Posted by dtwarren1942
Hey in need!

Welcome to Thunders.

It is always recommended to start with a beginners routine (doesn’t have to be the JP) and continue with it for 90 days or until you stop gaining. Start slowly and build up to the full routine over a few weeks.

Jelq with an erection level between 40 and 70%. Do not grip too tight, just enough to feel blood moving up the shaft . When stretching, grab your shaft about one inch below the glans and do not pull too hard, just enough to feel a slight stretch. Let your PIs be your guide as to how hard to do your exercise.

Don’t forget to take good starting measurements and photos so you have a solid base to compare your gains to.

PE safely and good luck with your endeavors .

Did you start in 2011?

Originally Posted by Berghuis374
NEWBIE ROUTINE but I always hear 40%-70% erection level? I jelq with 20-30max maybe and gain like crazy

Do you mean 20-30 reps max or 20-30% erection level?

Originally Posted by Theheroineed

I mean I would assume 1.25” is visually noticeable? Like even to you or from progress pictures, right?

I don’t do progress pics dude, it’s way to difficult for me to stay at 100% erect whilst stabbing myself with a ruler and to work a camera all at the same time. Each time I tried it, I wasn’t able to get my maximum measurement that I could normally get when using just a ruler, so if the number is incorrect I didn’t see the point. Anyway I can tell you this, when I push down my fat pad with my hands to reveal my BPEL, there’s times when it looks somewhat impressive and the change is noticeable! I’m on board with the NBPEL thing it’s a visual ego boost! An 8” NBPEL dick is going to look better than an 8” BPEL for sure. Although BPEL is your real length and useable during sex, it’s not what women see when you undress. Anyway, I just changed my goal to accommodate this realty and will have to add even more length so as it translates to NBPEL.

Originally Posted by Snifgro11
Do you mean 20-30 reps max or 20-30% erection level?

I (DID) 20-30 max erection level for jelqs and for 33 mins but my dick doenst want anymore having some problems with skin stretch


Start: 15.1cm BPEL

Current: 16.9cm

Final goal: 7 inch

Originally Posted by fork_001
I don’t do progress pics dude, it’s way to difficult for me to stay at 100% erect whilst stabbing myself with a ruler and to work a camera all at the same time. Each time I tried it, I wasn’t able to get my maximum measurement that I could normally get when using just a ruler, so if the number is incorrect I didn’t see the point. Anyway I can tell you this, when I push down my fat pad with my hands to reveal my BPEL, there’s times when it looks somewhat impressive and the change is noticeable! I’m on board with the NBPEL thing it’s a visual ego boost! An 8” NBPEL dick is going to look better than an 8” BPEL for sure. Although BPEL is your real length and useable during sex, it’s not what women see when you undress. Anyway, I just changed my goal to accommodate this realty and will have to add even more length so as it translates to NBPEL.

Sure, sure. I get that. BUt I mean if you gained 1.2” of BPL.I’d think you could easily notice gaining over an inch of size especially since one would assume that 1.2” would translate to NBP as well unless you gained fat pad size?

New questions -

I’ve never really stretched at all before. So I noticed after doing it for the first time yesterday that my Flaccid Stretched Length was a solid 6-6.2 and yet my erections only get to like 5.2-5.5. Seems off that my body goes out that far (with no pain or real feeling of hardcore pulling or anything) and yet doesn’t “fill up” that way.

Maybe it’s because I’m also much “thinner” when I’m stretching and when it fills out, it gets stretched out both vertically (length) and horizontally (girth) and therefore it changes the dynamic of the stretch?

Originally Posted by Theheroineed
Sure, sure. I get that. BUt I mean if you gained 1.2” of BPL.I’d think you could easily notice gaining over an inch of size especially since one would assume that 1.2” would translate to NBP as well unless you gained fat pad size?


Nah dude, can’t say I’ve noticed much in the way of significant size in my NBPEL! I’m just assuming it’s longer because my BPEL has obviously grown. At the same time, I might have penis dysmorphia lol, because I never really looks at my cock and think it looks’ big’ (maybe due to porn being ridiculous), but the comments from women disagree! I only think it’s starting to look long when I push my fat pad down into my stomach to reveal my BPEL which as I said, I wish was my NBPEL!

And no, my fat pad has been the same throughout my journey as I got my gains. As of recently though I’ve lost a lot of weight, but still don’t really see much difference. I’m probably not the most observant person either so take that into mind. Anyway, you have got gains to look forward too and it’s an exciting journey, just have realistic expectations.

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