How much pain is reasonable pain?

Hi everyone. I’m new to PE and have a question. I apologize in advance if this is a very basic question. There is a lot of information on this forum and I feel a bit overwhelmed. I’m still reading and learning.

After reading this post by Article (Link: A System for Safe PE) I was wondering about something that was said in there, namely this:

"Not all injuries are visible. It’s quite possible you’ll finish a session and feel fine and then notice some pain later. It’s reasonable to feel mild pain or shooting pains after a session. That might be associated with hitting the right spot."

How much pain is it reasonable to feel, both during and immediately after the jelqing? Would appreciate some thoughts and comments on this from people who have some experience (and results) with jelqing.

No pain should be felt while practicing exercises. Pain is your body’s way or telling you it doesn’t like it. Ignoring it is stupid.

Raging monk, my advice is to read up and practice the newbie routines. Take it slow and steady and don’t hurt yourself. Growing isn’t a quick process after adolescence - the older you get the longer it takes.

No pain buddy…maybe a little “discomfort” but, no pain.

(penis doesn’t like pain)

DJ

ZERO pain

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Appreciate it.

So far everyone says there should be no pain whatsoever. Where as in that post it was said, as I’ve quoted: “It’s reasonable to feel mild pain or shooting pains after a session. That might be associated with hitting the right spot.”

Since I have only recently started, I will listen to your advice folks and take it easy. But I do have to say that at about 50% erection level, in the beginning of the session, the glans feels a bit of “discomfort” when I jelq towards it (yes I stop before the glans as is the correct procedure). I don’t know yet how to describe this “discomfort”, it’s kind of a “pressure” that the glans is feeling. But then, when I feel it I take it a tad easier so as to lessen the pressure. Then the session is fine and I don’t feel discomfort. So as DJ says above, a bit of “discomfort” is ok, right? But at the same time while jelqing, I do wonder if I’m applying enough pressure. Obviously the dick shouldn’t be completely limp. I do understand though, that how much pressure is enough (and other nuances) comes with experience and knowledge of the theory. But I must say that my piñata does look good and engorged immediately after I’m done with the jelqing session.

Another thing that was said in that post is this:

“This brings us to a very important point. When you injure yourself, stop PEing. You can’t stop PEing if you don’t notice. Some injuries like vein breaches are painless. It’s quite possible to carry on if you haven’t noticed and make a situation worse.”

Vein breach sounds awful, but how am I suppose to notice it if it’s not even painful? I googled “penis vein breach” and on some photos you almost can’t even see that something is wrong!

Use moderate intensity in any PE method and at least 2 rest days per week and these 2 things will make sure of safety.

Red spots (petechiae), red splotches (larger spots) and bruising are all signs of broken or ruptured blood vessels. Localized tenderness is an indicator of stress/strain that you need to closely monitor.

Stick with a no pain routine.

Pain is not your friend and should never be your goal. The old bodybuilder adage "no pain / no gain" is not applicable to PE.
Fatigue is what you’re looking for when PE is done properly. My definition of fatigue doesn’t always fall in line with some PE pundits, but never the less here’s my definition.

"Fatigue" doesn’t always accompany soreness. It’s more of a state of condition than a feel. Although you can have symptoms of soreness, but that depends on the level of your training, and the plateaus that you reach.

If you base everything on the feel you get from ligament soreness then you have not properly defined "fatigue". Obviously as you progress into heavier more intense training you can feel the following symptoms……

#1 - Soreness at the base of your penis, since your ligament is attached to your pubic bone you should feel it more internally behind the fat pad.

#2 - Mild tenderness within your penis shaft. I wouldn’t classify this as soreness, but more like muscle or tissue awareness. Meaning if you massage or squeeze your penis you should feel like it’s been used or worked.

#3 - Soreness in you sphincter muscle. Occasionally as you graduate to heavier weight the initial sessions can manifest a soreness in your sphincter muscle. This means your body is reacting to the stress of the workload and tensing up. This is where you really need to learn to relax that pelvic floor muscle, and feel that stretch to it’s fullest.

#4 - A very loose and pliable flaccid penis. This is the condition you should experience after a good hang session. It’s also the time to take full advantage of this "fatigue" and do 10 - 15 minutes of very aggressive hand stretches. The hang work is what facilitates the "fatigue" and it’s where you’ll be able to stretch, twist and bend your penis beyond what you can normally do prior to a weight hanging session. It’s in this condition that you probably wouldn’t be able to achieve a 100% hard erection. This is FATIGUE!

It’s my experienced that erect length gains come from flaccid length gains. Your penis can be stretched to greater lengths while flaccid than while erect.
You’ll never hear anyone say that they have a 7" flaccid penis, but only a 6" erection. Over time the difference between your flaccid length and erect length will become less. For me if I had to put a percentage on it, it would be approximately 30%

If you are looking to target the ligament stretch more intensely without going to heavier weight, then use a Fulcrum bar as close to the base area as possible, all the way up to the point where you have to push your testicles backwards. Only do not exceed 15 minutes of Fulcrum hanging, as it will cut off circulation to a point. You can do sets of Fulcrums in between SD hanging.

Thank you for such a detailed and thorough answer. I have a lot to learn, but the journey has just begun. The important thing is to stay safe and consistent.

With PE, if anything, it’s the lack of pain you should be worried about. I’m more worried when I can’t feel something than when I can feel it.

All of my gains happened when I was not feeling anything and my dick was fresh and ready for sex anytime…

At the periods that my training was creating fatigue and/or discomfort and poor EQ quality I had zero gains.

Everyone is different.

I have said this and posted it several times. However I recognize a new crop of PE enthusiasts are always jumping on board the forums seeking information.

“Fatigue” doesn’t always accompany soreness. It’s more of a state of condition than a feel. Although you can have symptoms of soreness, but that depends on the level of your training, and the plateaus that you reach.

If you base everything on the feel you get from ligament soreness then you have not properly defined “fatigue”. Obviously as you progress into heavier more intense training you can feel the following symptoms……

#1 - Soreness at the base of your penis, since your ligament is attached to your pubic bone you should feel it more internally behind the fat pad.

#2 - Mild tenderness within your penis shaft. I wouldn’t classify this as soreness, but more like muscle or tissue awareness. Meaning if you massage or squeeze your penis you should feel like it’s been used or worked.

#3 - Soreness in you sphincter muscle. Occasionally as you graduate to heavier weight the initial sessions can manifest a soreness in your sphincter muscle. This means your body is reacting to the stress of the workload and tensing up. This is where you really need to learn to relax that pelvic floor muscle, and feel that stretch to it’s fullest.

#4 - A very loose and pliable flaccid penis. This is the condition you should experience after a good hang session. It’s also the time to take full advantage of this “fatigue” and do 10 - 15 minutes of very aggressive hand stretches. The hang work is what facilitates the “fatigue” and it’s where you’ll be able to stretch, twist and bend your penis beyond what you can normally do prior to a weight hanging session. It’s in this condition that you probably wouldn’t be able to achieve a 100% hard erection. This is FATIGUE!

It’s my experienced that erect length gains come from flaccid length gains. Your penis can be stretched to greater lengths while flaccid than while erect.
You’ll never hear anyone say that they have a 7” flaccid penis, but only a 6” erection. Over time the difference between your flaccid length and erect length will become less. For me if I had to put a percentage on it, it would be approximately 30%

If you are looking to target the ligament stretch more intensely without going to heavier weight, then use a Fulcrum bar as close to the base area as possible, all the way up to the point where you have to push your testicles backwards. Only do not exceed 15 minutes of Fulcrum hanging, as it will cut off circulation to a point. You can do sets of Fulcrums in between SD hanging.