I guess why I have no girth gains.

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Clues the Tunica is the Limiting Factor
Main Clue 1: On a scale of 1 to 10, your erections are a 9 or a 10. Remember that the tunica surrounds the smooth muscle like a bicycle tire surrounds the inner tube inside. When you’re erections are extremely hard, it essentially means that there isn’t a large “gap” between the smooth muscle and the tunica. When your erections are rock-hard, as if the smooth muscle is trying to buldge out of the tunica - and as if a 15” inner tube was pumped all the way up inside a 14” tire - it means that the tunica is what’s holding you back.

How is the tunica holding you back? We’ll, if you enlarge the smooth muscle any more, the only thing that’s going to happen is your penis is going to get harder and harder. Similar to how if you pump more air into an already-full inner tube, it’s going to result in increased hardness not increased size. But if you increase the size of the outer part of the tire to 15”, the tire will be … 15”.

Main Clue 2: Your BPFSL .5” or less than that of your BPEL. The tunica is most likely the part of the penis that determines how far the penis can be stretched (assuming all the tissues in your penis are relaxed enough for you to measure your maximum BPFSL). If the length of the stretched penis measures close the same as the erect penis, then that would suggest the tunica is at its limit when erect.

We picked .5” as the “magic number” because that’s the number the data suggested. However, we’re still in the beta stages here, so we may find that the magic number could be more along the lines of .25” or even .75”. Either way, the closer your BPFSL is to your BPEL, the more likely your tunica is your limiting factor.

So, for example, if your BPFSL is 6.25 inches and your BPEL is 6 inches, then it falls within the .5” range and the tunica is your limiting factor. If your BPFSL is 6.6 inches and your BPEL is 6 inches, then it falls out of the .5” range and your smooth muscle is probably your limiting factor.

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I think it is my case.

Good luck with that.

First gains ! (after many months :/)

Small ones but real ones. 0.2 in girth and 0.1 in length and it is because of stretching.

My tunica was the limiting factor.

Thats cool, what kind of stretching exercises did you do?

Only the ‘Normal’ Stretching in the 4th directions 30s down X3, 30s up X2, 30s left X2, 30s rightX2.

But I don’t know if the tunica is your limiting factor because you had already lenghts gains (with stretching ?). The theory of the limiting factor as explain in the link I posted in page one will tell you what you need.G l and G gains. When I will top my length goal 7,5 or 8 I will make O bend and Jelq and after clamp.

Each PE exercise acts on both length and girth. Girth oriented exercises are effecting length in a pretty direct way. Length exercises are effecting also girth in a less obvious manner. There is no completely selective exercise.
Spageto, if you focus on girth, stretching is not your best option. I agree you are limited by tunica, but think of it as a cage. A cage can be enlarged both longitudinally (what you are doing right now) and around its circumference. Looking at your stats, I think you should work more on girth.

Girth versus Length math
Considering the tunica a caped cylinder under internal pressure, we may have a look at the math developed back in the early 1830’ for longitudinal and circumferential strain in pressurized cylinders. One should not be a math genius to notice that in the circumferential strain formula (that is related with girth gains) does not appear the length parameter. That means girth gains do not depend on length!
The longitudinal strain depends the cylinder’s radius, which means length gains due to internal pressure are dependent on girth. The practical aspect is not simple at all: while a larger girth translates into a larger longitudinal strain, there is also an opposite effect that makes stretching a thick pipe more difficult than a thin one. That means a larger girth helps collateral length gains from girth exercises, but reduces the efficiency of direct stretching. Which is the overall effect? I don’t know, the debate is still open. One thing is clear: length does not hinder girth gains, so people targeting first length can’t go wrong!

Thanks cervixhunter for your complete response.

I totally agree with you, that s my theory but in overall.

Because as I said in my fisrt post I was doing the new be routine but I was focused on girth so my stretching exercices was very quick and poor, just in order to assouplish my unit.

After my “poor” Stretching, the last month (the 4th in the newbe routine) I was making 150 dry jelq at 70/80% erect, a little of sasdack and nothing came, my girth was the same.

Now I do consciensously my stretching in the new be routine and 100 wet jelk at 40/60% for one month and gains came.

My mistake was (because I need more girth than length) doing too much girth exercices.

Thanks for reading and participate to this thread.

I must confess that the mathmatics here defeat me. But I would suggest that the one big difference in the calculations is that the penis is a living part and therefore won’t necessarily conform to calculaton on a ‘dead’ body such as a plastic tube.

The penis grows by a process of tearing and repairing, Which is not available for other tubes. so the formulae applicable to tubes will not aply to the penis.

Why not just try a pump?

Also, the fact that the tunica has circumferal, longitudinal and diagonal fibres need to be considered. The diagonal fibres length would be the biggest limiting factor in both length and girth.

I would say the best way to increase the length of the diagonal fibres, would be to do manual stretches (or hanging). But if only girth is wanted, then perhaps this stretching should not be done for too long, as its only the tunica we want to target (we DO NOT want to enlongate the soft spongy tissue).

So we could intesely stretch the tunica for say a month, which would produce some “slack” in the diagonal tunica fibres. Then we start the girth work after this, which should be more productive now that the diagonal fibres that were once limiting the stretching of the circumferal fibres, are slack/longer.

Hope that makes some sense :) .

Yes Man-of-ten It makes sense.

Try flaccid girth exercises!

Maybe dumb question, but when you stretch I find that you can generally stretch in two different ways. You can stretch by first pulling down your foreskin, grasping around right under the head. Seems to me the pull will be on the chambers and the inner part of my penis. Or you can do it with the skin which seems to put a lot of the pull on the areas around the penis and on the outer part of the shaft, which also feels good :P am I way off here?

I would say you want to avoid stretching the skin, and concentrate on stretching the inner penis.

appreciate the tip, got a why too?

Stretching the skin wont give you any more penis length, just more skin. If you have this “fatigue” feeling over the base of your dick that you describe as “feels good” and there is alot of tension on the skin then chances are you are stretching skin.