It's 2023 and there's still ZERO legit enlargement surgeries

I really find it crazy how we’re in 2023, medicine is allegedly so advanced and there’s still NOTHING to help millions of struggling men around the world. In the age of porn and mass sexualization, average is now small and big is very, very inflated. Supposedly average penises around the 5-6” mark are getting mocked by women all the time and we have to cope with the fact that ”stats” tell us we’re average.

What drives me insane is how if a woman is born with small tits, she could have her problem fixed for some measly 5-10k. If she has no ass, she could hit the gym for a year and that’s sorted too. On top, there are surgical ways for that as well. Now if you’re a man that is cursed with a small penis, what’s out there for you? ZERO legit surgical ways to sort your problem out, I’m willing to pay INSANE amounts of money if there was something out there but guess what- there’s nothing. Now I suspect the three main answers I’ll get so let’s go over them.

1) ”Penuma” - oh oh but it’s FDA approved. Okay, it’s a total scam and a total disaster. Just look at the diaries and stories about this garbage on the internet. If you visit their site, you’ll get the promise of 1-2 inches in length and girth for $20k-ish. Sounds life changing right??? Okay but they won’t tell you that the length increase is in FLACCID state only and a very very small percentage of men will gain something in BPEL, usually no more than 0.5”. That’s of course if there are no complications which are statistically far likelier than you seeing any real gains in length. In girth, you do get around an inch increase. You also get a noticeable scar.

2) girth fillers - says enough that the most reputable clinic doing this is in MEXICO. These are another disaster, your penis ends up looking like a deformity, I’ve read that people have even had their gains disappear from fillers that were supposed to be permanent. High risk of complication too.

3) PE exercises - now I know we’re on a PE forum and I’ll get mocked for this but I DESPISE PE with my guts. I hate having to do it daily for years with zero promise of any gains. Also, people don’t understand how difficult it actually is doing these exercises with a small penis, a grower on top. How could you comfortably hang. jelq and etc when your flaccid literally looks like a bean? How? Now a fair amount of people over here are actually above average in size and most are showers so they won’t have this problem and won’t understand. For the rest of us though, PE is living hell. And even if we could do the exercises comfortably - those who fail to achieve substantial gains are a lot less than those who fail one way or another. It also takes years if you’re gonna see substantial gains at all. Years of having to devote hours weekly to this. And if you’re doing all of this, you’re already blackpilled about penis size to the point of mental trauma so you realize you’re small and these years seem like centuries.

Doctors are well aware of how much of an issue this is for so many men. They’re aware of the amounts some of us would pay if there was a legit way to get a respectable penis. And still, in big 2023 there’s nothing. There’s nothing and millions like me will continue suffering in silence. I can’t enjoy NOTHING in life, NOTHING because I have a small penis. I do not have sex because of it either. If I achieve something big I remind myself I’m a worthless sucker with a small dick and it’s irrelevant. To be born a man is a curse. Women can fix their insecurities so easily and we get to drown in depression until the day we die. Also please spare me the usual ”you need therapy” bs. No I do not need someone feeding me lies and telling me I’m average and that size doesn’t matter and it’s just in my head for $100 an hour. Therapy won’t fix my actual problem and it seems PE won’t either since I’ve failed every single time I’ve attempted it because my horrible curse of a shrimp is too small to even get stretched properly. I know this is a worthless thread, almost as worthless as me, but I felt the need to put out a rant about my frustration somewhere.

I’m sorry to hear that, my friend. And you’re right, there don’t seem to be any safe surgical options. You could go from a small dick to a dick that doesn’t work properly. Better off just not taking the chance. If PE isn’t working for you, you should try focusing on other areas of life, the idea of controlling the things you can control, don’t spend your time worrying about the things you don’t have, etc. Also, where is Seria?

Too small to be stretched. What do you even mean by that? You make an okay grip around the head and pull. Unless you have a case of SERIOUS micro penis, I don’t see how you cannot stretch it. I have found as I have done PE that my flaccid has increased in size, so if anything as you make gains, PE should become easier.

Your penis surely works. I’ve been a whole year with an useless one due to the Hard Flaccid Syndrome I suffered after an edging session and my penis hasn’t fully recovered from the sequels of HFS yet (not fully strong, not fully big, much less duration of erections…). You should thank God for having a penis that works.

It is an absolutely disordered midset to think you can enjoy “NOTHING” in life because of your penis size. Life is not about penises and vaginas. Your life should be focused on the important things: Jesus Christ, your family, your friends, your neighbors, your colleagues at work, your job, your sports, enjoying nature, et cetera and yourself (take into account you are not your penis).

With all due respect, you seem much of a victim of pornographic colonialism (as I’ve been).

May Jesus bless you through His mother.

You’re kinda right about no safe surgeries. I think there’s only a handful of men willing to do it, which lead to slower progress on medical procedures.

Yes, to some extent. It’s my previous porn usage of 10+ years and a few failed attempts to getting a girlfriend while I was in high school that I accidentally found Thunder’s and want a bigger dick.

But some men (including me) also want to improve their looks or go full on looksmaxing to enjoy life more, which I guess is also blackpilled. Some doesn’t even know PE exists. If all methods of improving physical appearance are blackpilled, then I really don’t wanna do it anymore because I don’t like when anything I do is labeled “-pill”.

I’m very sorry to hear this. From that quote onward, you seem like you’re deep into blackpill mindset to me.

Frankly, If you don’t wanna hear that you need therapy, then I’m gonna tell you that this way of self-talk is very concerning. The good news is, just ranting about it is a really great first step for you.

How small?

Small where people look at stats and tell me my length is around average and my girth is above average but in reality they should try living with a penis like that. When you put it this way, I have no problem but in reality I do. Being a grower + shit EQ + shit libido makes everything even worse too. I literally have the worst non-micropenis in the world.

Related to what vverdiacc and c3ifador have said above, you should look into cognitive behavioural therapy. None of this is going to get any better until you sort out your mindset

It’s fine to rant every now and then and to ask some brothers for help. But keep in mind the victim mentality won’t get you out of this shit, only action does. Let’s see what we can do.

Surgeries that do work:
-fillers with lipofilling (your own fat being transplanted) - make your dick as fat as you want permanently without foreign objects in your body
-silicone implants
-complete fat removal around your supra pubic area either by liposuction or by dieting down to 10% body fat (doable but a lot of work). In case you’re fat you can gain several cms in length here

You can get all of those surgeries done today and end up with a bigger dick. It’s true that women can enhance themselves, use make up etc. Or do nothing and look great but you have to work out your whole life and eat well to be hench. But at the end of the day girls are past their best age at 21 and it only goes downhill from there (referencing the dataclysm book by the okcupid guy and a billion wicked thoughts book). But as a man when you’re 50 it only gets better - lucky you!

If PE works or not is difficult to tell, my own empirical research has shown me that light downward hanging / stretching for a 6 hours over 3 months every day will get you the results you can possibly achieve. I may be wrong here and many will disagree but this seems to also be the opinion of people who left PE behind and just maintain. I’m happy to be convinced of other results when I see legitimate well taken before and after photos without camera play. I’m also sure there are many legit cases without documentation but my assumption is that most people won’t achieve their expected results with the old manual labour.

Keep in mind if you’re depressed and don’t get many erections due to erectile dysfunction then your penis will shrink - pumping helps regain your original size (plus daily cialis). Pumps, tadalafil/sildenafil, l-arginine, alprostadil injections, they make you bigger temporarily - I’ve tried them all and they work very well.

This forum is a great resource but keep in mind you have a skewed view of reality here. Don’t go on instagram to look at the top 0.1% rich people with filters on, posting photos of rented ferraris. Don’t look at porn with skewed camera angles, 8% bodyfat guys, only 5ft tall guys and girls, with top 0.1% 8in+ dicks.

There’s a great subreddit on debunking porn stars’ dick sizes.

Interesting facts: the part of the vagina that is able to feel pleasure is only 8-12 cm long. The only trustworthy study on penis sizes was carried out by king’s college london with a sample size of 15k men from all backgrounds. You guessed it - the findings reveal smaller sizes than one might expect on this forum. Don’t trust any one other youtube video or porn video. And the best research you can do, here comes the kicker: I ask my slutty lays (they have a good reference of erect penis sizes) how I compare and what they prefer (I’m a few cm above average of insertible length) and they usually say I’m already at the top end and they don’t enjoy any more. I still want to gain more but it’s for me, not for them clearly. They also say that in the heat of the moment they don’t feel the difference in sizes unless you’re at an extreme end of the spectrum.

You haven’t reached the end of the possibilities brother, when the fire is hot it’s a good time to shape the iron. Literally in this case. Many of the great guys here on this forum have probably been on this path before and eventually achieved what they wanted to achieve.

Vandale

Bro, let me put it this way: if you resume your life to a dick, you might end up being one.

Start the PE Journey ASAP and be strict and constant about it.

Then start making all your other traits better. This is more important than growing a big dick, for it not only serves to get women but to become successful in life.

Simply untrue. Phalloboards.info (also known as PhalloBoards 3.0) has been following the topic since 2010 and while there have been a lot of trial and error, a lot of advancements have been made. If you decide to visit, be sure to check out the GENERAL FORUM, its design was actually inspired by Thundersplace (cool little tidbit). There is also PhalloBoards 2.0 (inactive but rich with content) which can be found by just googling that term.

Admittedly, lengthening remains hit-or-miss and may be better off done through manual PE (e.g. stretching, jelqing, etc). However, girth has absolutely been solved mostly via (non-surgical) injectable fillers. Dermal grafts and fat transfer remain options albeit surgical. If I could caution, avoid silicone oil fillers and silicone implants for enlargement. Implants are best left to treat erectile dysfunction, they are horrible candidates for augmentation. Silicone oil fillers are prone to migration and tend to have fiercer complications if & when they arise.

Of course, no procedure is without risk, but I know hundreds of guys (among thousands who’ve done it) who’ve achieved at least 1inch or more in circumference. I went from Snugger Fit Condoms to Magnum XL and have been complication free since the Summer of 2011.

I would not lament, there are options out there. Advancements have been and continue to be made. Sure they aren’t on the scale of University or Pharmaceutical studies, but that’s because you aren’t going to get research grants for penis enlargement (it remains “taboo” I suppose), and most R&D are going to go toward sexual health rather than sexual enhancement.

Alternatively, you can start with the methods found here like others mentioned. I found some success with length via wet jelqs.

I should also add, separate to my first reply, that attaining a healthy mindset FIRST is crucial. Most guys I talk to who entertain male phalloplasty often are happily married, recently divorced and looking to upgrade, all relatively successful adults with disposable income. Those of them who are admittedly depressed, overconsumed with adult content, etc, ought to have those matters resolved first. A defeatist attitude or victim mentality also doesn’t help.

There are healthy outlets like many have alluded to. I’m not even necessarily suggesting therapy (although there is no shame in that), but perhaps just turning off the social media, porn, and whatever else may be toxic and find a new & healthy escape. Travel. Meet new people. There is more to life than size, and that is coming from someone who has been able to experience being relatively small to relatively big in one lifetime.

I have to respectfully disagree. From my experience it takes a very small increase in size or regaining lost size before there will be feedback that you are causing discomfort during sex and you’ll have to adjust how you do things. And this from a modest PE effort. It will take some time because the most important thing is not to go too hard, which is really where you see most hit a wall.

But what doesn’t take time? If you want to build muscles, that’s six months at least. If you want to take off 10lbs of fat, that’s 3-4 months. Most every effort of personal improvement is going to take time.

I think appreciable results from traction can be realized in 6 months and the EQ enhancement from the pump takes even less than that from what my limited experience has been with that.