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This is why you should CHANGE now the side of your stretch.

I look down at my penis and realized it is rotated to the left, this rotation starts at the base. After I have made some searches about this subject I came with the conclusion that what causes the rotation are the ligaments of the penis.
As I am a person that learns faster through observation I went to google images, but the pictures there are not PE bias with the cut of only the penis and it’s ligaments, then I so allied to that reading more about the tissue, tendons and ligaments and it cleared some initial questions I had that were sufficient for me to come with an Old Knowledge of PE that is underrated, and the majority of users take it for granted. At least with this thread I look forward to a lucid explanation.

1-How to know that your penis has a rotation?
Look down at it erected (no kegel) so you can observe the true shape and direction of your erected penis.
2- Yep I have a rotation, should I be worried? Why it happens?
You should not, it is completely normal. It is caused by the ligaments of the penis [View image 3]. You can clearly see the front cut image of the penis and it’s ligaments [image 1], being the most famous and commented: the suspensory ligament, and also important adjacent ones that I call left and right ligaments. For a rotation to occur there must be unbalance of the forces within the adjacents (or lateral if you prefer) ligaments, causing as aftermath one adjacent ligament side to be longer, weaker and looser, in an erection this side will be lower; and the other side will be tigther, stronger and smaller, in an erection as this ligaments side are tighter this will be in a higher position than the other. [view image 2] [view image 3]
3- Is this strong and tighter ligament side preventing my gains?
Depend. If you are seeking length gains through stretch then yes it may be, because you have one side that is smaller, thus have a small limit of stretch length, this one side being an impediment to the possible maximum stretch of the other side (that has a bigger limit of stretch), leading to you stretch not as much as you could do because one side is the limiter, leading less gains in a certain amount of time [view image 2 and 3 again]
4- What can I do to overcome this?
That is easy Old Knowledge: stretch to different sides when you start PE, or if you already has this strong stiff side you isolate the stretch to the opposite angle of it in order to have the best possible quality of stretch this adjacent ligament. Prefer to prioritize at least 70% of your PE time to this particular stiff area.
5- What are/would be the signs that is this working?
Decrease in the rotation of the penis, balance in overall forces of the ligaments of the penis, ligament gains (inner penis coming out of the pubic bone)[view image 1]

Image 1= front and side view of the penis and it’s ligaments. The front view you can see the suspensory ligament in the middle and the adjacent ones at the sides being covered by a layer of tissue. The side view you can see the ligaments are among the penis and the pubic bone. I drew a line on the pubic bone to evidence what is over the pubic bone (BPEL) and the inner penis (possible gains through stretches[ligament gains]).
image 2= a front cut view of the penis and it’s ligaments, now in how I imagined would ligament cause the rotation in comparison of a balanced and unbalanced penis’s ligaments.
image 3= just a top view of what would be the rotation and poorly drawn (because can’t see the lower side when you have a top view) left-hand rotation and presupposed to be the ligaments place and it’s configuration.

I had trouble thinking about a title, if any of you have a better one please say or change it (because I do not know if I can).

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started April 2017 BPEL 16,7cm x 13,3cm EG Last measurement BPEL 20 cm x 14,8 cm EG

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Rotated Penis? Unbalanced Ligaments? Lack of Gains through Manual Routine?

That is a good post. I have curvature not a rotation so I never gave it much thought but it makes sense. Our penises aren’t twisted anatomically so it would make sense that the attachment ligaments are to blame.

Hopefully those with penile rotation take a look at your view here. It may help them.


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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold

That is a good post. I have curvature not a rotation so I never gave it much thought but it makes sense. Our penises aren’t twisted anatomically so it would make sense that the attachment ligaments are to blame.

Hopefully those with penile rotation take a look at your view here. It may help them.

I truly appreciate your acknowledgment. Indeed, but I don’t know how to.

It is bad how old knowledge is underrated for the new users, I was one of those who rushed to have gains so tried new things and forgot that the old PEr’s were the ones that have tested everything and made the knowledge that we have today, the core of everything resides in the past and we tend to forget it because in this new world we live, we got used to the speed things happen and the facility we have access to information, thus we selectively skip slow texts or complex texts to go straight to the synthesis.


started April 2017 BPEL 16,7cm x 13,3cm EG Last measurement BPEL 20 cm x 14,8 cm EG

My progress, thoughts and pictures

Rotated Penis? Unbalanced Ligaments? Lack of Gains through Manual Routine?

Hey this is a fascinating observation, have you managed to correct your twist?

I also have a twist / rotation.. but I thought its because my body is asymmetric.
I am not sure if this is true but I think everyone who has asymmetric abs also have twisted penis.
Like the abs of guy #1 ~ here

My abs are asymmetric and my penis is twisted.
I thought something is shorter and something is longer and its pulling at different intensity downwards to cause this twist, never thought its the ligaments..

Do you think all of this can be corrected?
I don’t really care to be honest but if I can fix it, I would invest a bit of time to do it.
Thanks for bringing clarity to it!


Then: 6.5 BPEL | 5.5 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Now: 8.11 BPEL | 7.24 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Goal: 9x6 || My journal

Actually, I will target it regardless. Even if it does not correct the twist, it surely must be a limiting factor, to be the shorter rope.

Instead of distributing the stretch for 50% to the short and 50% to the long ligaments and wasting 50% of the energy on the long because it does not take any force, I will give the short ligaments 100% of the stretch…

Question is - how do I know bot hare the same size if this does not necessarily correct twist?

Mhmm…

Btw. do you think this could cause your erection to point to the side you are stretching to? Like If I only stretch to right, will my erection start pointing to the right?


Then: 6.5 BPEL | 5.5 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Now: 8.11 BPEL | 7.24 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Goal: 9x6 || My journal

Originally Posted by ehlolol

Hey this is a fascinating observation, have you managed to correct your twist?

No, I do not stretch anymore.

Originally Posted by ehlolol

I also have a twist / rotation.. but I thought its because my body is asymmetric.

I am not sure if this is true but I think everyone who has asymmetric abs also have twisted penis.

Like the abs of guy #1 ~ here

I wouldn’t think that because I did not focus on that aspect on my search.

Originally Posted by ehlolol

My abs are asymmetric and my penis is twisted.

I thought something is shorter and something is longer and its pulling at different intensity downwards to cause this twist, never thought its the ligaments..

Do you think all of this can be corrected?

I don’t really care to be honest but if I can fix it, I would invest a bit of time to do it.

Thanks for bringing clarity to it!

Yes, I think it can. Please do not use all your time to only one side, just give more time to the deficient side in order to not create another unbalance of forces in the ligaments.

You are welcome.


started April 2017 BPEL 16,7cm x 13,3cm EG Last measurement BPEL 20 cm x 14,8 cm EG

My progress, thoughts and pictures

Rotated Penis? Unbalanced Ligaments? Lack of Gains through Manual Routine?

Originally Posted by ehlolol

Actually, I will target it regardless. Even if it does not correct the twist, it surely must be a limiting factor, to be the shorter rope.

Instead of distributing the stretch for 50% to the short and 50% to the long ligaments and wasting 50% of the energy on the long because it does not take any force, I will give the short ligaments 100% of the stretch…

Question is - how do I know “both are” the same size if this does not necessarily correct twist?

Tightness of the smaller side causing the curvature to this tight side.

Originally Posted by ehlolol

Mhmm…

Btw. do you think this could cause your erection to point to the side you are stretching to? Like If I only stretch to right, will my erection start pointing to the right?

Your erection will point to the tighter ligament side, until you correct this unbalance of ligaments your erection will twist and point to the tighter side. Mine is like that because my smaller/tighter ligament side is the left when I am sitting or standing my erection points to the left so as my twist.

If you stretch to the right side probably in long term it will be correcting the twist, but on the short run I wouldn’t be so positive. Because to see gains in the ruler it is said that you can see in maybe 3 months, and to notice it (with your eyes, not ruler) about 6 months.


started April 2017 BPEL 16,7cm x 13,3cm EG Last measurement BPEL 20 cm x 14,8 cm EG

My progress, thoughts and pictures

Rotated Penis? Unbalanced Ligaments? Lack of Gains through Manual Routine?

Ok, thanks for the information!


Then: 6.5 BPEL | 5.5 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Now: 8.11 BPEL | 7.24 NBPEL x 5.5 MSEG | 5.0 BEG

Goal: 9x6 || My journal

I have a slight curve to the left and rotation, rotation is not really that great, but it’s slight. My wife says it kind of feels like it “spins” in her sometimes, drives her crazy!

I never noticed this about myself in such great detail until I started PE 16 years ago. But I have a prominent ligament on my left side that I can feel tighter than the other side when I did and still do manual stretches. Even though I have had wonderful gains in size through the years I have only been able to correct this curve/rotation just a little bit. One thing I was able to do through stretching was allow myself to pull my erection almost all the way to the right so that it touches my leg and pelvis. Before I started PE I couldn’t pull it over but maybe an inch or two.


Starting length, Spring 2003: bpel 6 3/8", bpfsl ~6 1/2", flaccid ~3-4" (never measured flaccid stretched or hanging flaccid; starting girth was probably ~5"-5 1/4")

Summer 2004: bpel 7 7/8", bpfsl 8 1/8", flaccid ~4", erect girth 5.3"

Spring 2018: bpel 7 1/4", bpfsl 7 5/8", erect girth 5 1/8"; Spring 2020: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth 5 3/8". Current - August 2023: bpel 7 3/4", bpfsl 8", erect girth mid shaft 5 1/4" (5 1/2" at base)

Originally Posted by c3ifador
It is bad how old knowledge is underrated for the new users, I was one of those who rushed to have gains so tried new things and forgot that the old PEr’s were the ones that have tested everything and made the knowledge that we have today

Very good observation, c3ifador :up:

I see very often how new members don’t read enough, it leads to ideas that are not based on real experiences and want to try “new cool stuff” based on whatever they “think”.

I did not need anything else outside this page to get good gains, it’s just a matter to take the time to concentrate on studying the page properly.

Sorry if I sound retarded , but super long english posta confuse me , to balance this rotation I should pull in the opposite direction of the rotation?

I remember that I had a super extra tight suspensory ligament , so tight it almost prevented me to have sex.

I pulled so hard that I stretched the ligament .


Started october 2011 :

BPEL 13.5 MSEG 14 BEG 14.5

Today : BPEL 14.3 ,MSEG 14 BEG 14.5

Originally Posted by c3ifador
Yes.

I was doing that Just now 😂😁👌


Started october 2011 :

BPEL 13.5 MSEG 14 BEG 14.5

Today : BPEL 14.3 ,MSEG 14 BEG 14.5

TO: C3ifador

I followed you until you described the stretches to remedy the condition. In order to understand,

I would need more illustrations. Like you, illustrations are far more helpful than descriptions for me as well.

Secondly, looking down, the two penises in your illustration look nearly identical. I could only tell which one was rotated by observing the glans.


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