Full Package Pumping: thoughtfulgold

Hey there, TG here. This is the log I promised I would create for the purposes of logging my escapades with full package pumping and Ball Stretcher weights. So, it starts here.

Below, I have pictures attached of my discount STJ rig up. I’d love a $250+ Acrylic Sun Tea Jar from pumptoys but…cannot afford that kind of scratch on material right now. It’s just too challenging. So you can make what’s below for under $70. I am going to detail the assembly and also any routines and sessions I do with my Sun Tea Jar Conversion and Ball Stretcher weight I’ll be using.

Directions for Sun Tea Jar Conversion
Materials-

1. Sun Tea Jar- https://smile.a … /dp/B072MPV76B/ $9 (plastic, not glass)
2. Sun Tea Jar Conversion kit from Pumptoys. Buy this STJ Conversion Kit at Pumptoys.Com $55 for the basic seal.

1. You get your materials out. You may or may not need the male hose coupler that comes with it. If you have a hand pump with a male connector, just put it to the side. You need the seal and the female screw on conversion for the spout mainly with your jar. All seen in Figure 1.

2. Take the lid off the jar, if you haven’t already, look in it at the nut shown in Figure 2. You can remove this nut by holding it with your hand and turning the spout on the outside of the jar. Do that till you have the nut in your hand.

3. Once you have the parts in Figure 3, remove the clear gasket from your tea spout. You will need it to get the proper tolerance for the female connector.

4. Place the clear gasket on top of the white one included with the female connector conversion. Place it into the jar, into the hole the tea spout used to occupy. Tighten the nut inside of the jar hand tight but snug. Refer to Figure 4 for placement of both gaskets if you aren’t sure.

5. Place the seal on top of the jar, after affixing the female connector spout conversion. Your Sun Tea Jar is finished. Takes only a few minutes.

Please note, PLASTIC Sun Tea Jars do not work for this! The plastic will bow and fail to pressurize! This is what I get for being too smart for my own good!

Alright, while I have another jar (glass) on order, I have received my third ball stretcher weight after returning two of them. I’m going to detail the story of why that is, then I’m going to talk about wearing the weight these last two days. Ready? Go!

First thing’s first.

The company thechaingang.com is fucking incredible. I spent $50 on a ball stretcher set from pumptoys, which is a company I trust, but they don’t offer a 30 day return on any of their items. For someone who has never done ball stretching before, I used that two times and ordered a total of 3 times and got the best fit this weight offers. I know it’s a shameless plug but…as a dude packing priority mail boxes to send back a $63 item twice so that I didn’t end up spending 3x that to get a good fit…I’m fucking satisfied.

The weight in question is this magnetic one. I use the 42mm height with 35mm diameter. After trying both the 40mm and 30mm diameter. I’ll be linking to pictures of both the 30mm and 35mm being worn. The 40mm simply would fall off so…that doesn’t get pictures. But that’s a bit later in the post.

That is the weight with the story behind it. I picked this weight type because I did not want a snap or screw in system. I take the simple approach to new devices. Tooless, silent, and simple. The weight is magnetically closed, meaning that there’s a small section that comes out of it that is removed and easily slides into place by hand. The magnet placement makes it very hard to get the placement of the small piece incorrect and it is easily repeatable to be worn. However, it can pinch when you first close it. Make sure the area of the magnet gap is clear of any scrotum skin. The pinch will be swift and will sting a bit but not be terrible (but still fucking suck, so mind your skin) so it’s pretty safe to snap into.

Now, down to sizing…really I don’t care what mathematical equation you read. I got one suggestion of a 42mm diameter (why I started with a 40mm diameter) then a suggestion of a 37mm with another way I ran the equation (which probably indicated 35mm but after the 40mm fell off I bought a 30mm and it started pinching quite uncomfortably on the second day). That’s in this post here: Ball Stretcher- 30mm trial pictures.
I personally think you probably need to use a sizing equation as a guide, then buy from thechaingang so you can return it for the right size after you screw it up once or twice.

Also, sizing problem…you may slip between sizes like I do. I am not a proper 35mm diameter but 30mm pinches, burns and makes me lose circulation and all of this upsets me. So I’ve created a workaround. This workaround is cheap, easily found if you’ve got even a little bit of extra PE gear, and not hard to come by if not. I used a piece of silicone sleeve I had laying around. I had snipped a loop of Hard Xsleeve and it was the right thickness to make up the diameter that I lack to fit a 35 and also can be placed in such a way to prevent the testicle migration that I experience otherwise. You can see the workaround in this post 35mm Trial pictures and I demonstrate it in this post: Ball Stretcher Too Large? Silicone Spacer Workaround

Basic wear time has been 5 hours. I can achieve that in a 30mm once, as the next day it wouldn’t wear for more than 20 minutes. Or as often as I care to with the 35mm diameter and the silicone strip. It is comfortable and has a nice swing to it but is not as noticeable in baggy pants unless you have a large flaccid hanging over the weight, in which case there’s movement women will see.

I can walk around in the 35mm diameter as long as the spacer is in a good place. My right testicle is smaller than my left and will shift sideways and try to wander upwards if I don’t use the spacer. Cutting the strip longer is in my future and will be discussed here.

Wow 1 pound 7 ounces? I can imagine that gets in the way a bit.

Did you choose it for the weight or for the vertical height (42mm stretch distance)?

It does. I have to stay conscious of it, as it is wide enough with my natural lack of a thigh gap to keep my legs from closing and alter my gait. So I have to walk with the weight banging on my leg and down a pant leg somewhat.

I picked it for both reasons. Really, I wanted the 1 pound 4 ounce versions cuz the 30mm is 1 pound 4 oz and the 40mm is 1 pound 3.6oz and I did NOT want the 1 pound 7.1 oz version as a starter weight. However, I kept trying to measure my possible stretch distance and how much I wanted to start with and I didn’t want to start too light. The BRK that I bought from pump toys clocks in around 15-16oz and the weight was no problem so I wanted a touch more challenge but the jump from a 42mm height to 56mm was too great in weight and longer than I expected would be comfortable. I was reasonably sure that 42mm height was as tall as I wanted to start with. The weight in the 20oz range seemed like what I wanted and so far, even though this is 23oz, I’m very happy with my choice.

Additionally, I ran a secondary budget. Assuming I would have sizing issues (after the dead loss of $50 spent on the BRK), I allocated around $90 for this endeavor and spent $7.20x 2 and $2.95x 3 on multiple to and from shipping instances so I spent $23.15 in total on shipping to try different sizes. Combine that with the $62.99 cost of the weight and I went in for $85 so I couldn’t go over budget either with a heavier weight (as the 56mm and 65mm are quite expensive) and running that back and forth with a higher base price.

My thoughts on my selection now are as follows:

*42mm height is just long enough to be challenging if the scrotum is not warm. I feel this height is challenging but plausible for someone with a high and tight scrotum. Someone with less PE experience and who is more risk averse should go with a 28mm height. If you are injury prone, start with the 14mm height.

*Knowing what I know now I do think that a 56mm height would be doable and perhaps comfortable for me, if not now then very soon. I do not regret not choosing the 42mm but feel the 56mm is within my capability and a reasonable thing to work towards.

*The 65mm height is too long for a newbie ball stretcher like myself and the weight, in 35mm diameter, is quite likely prohibitive at 36oz from the 23oz I’m at now.

*As silence is a paramount idea for me I will likely purchase a second taller weight in time instead of a shorter weight to perform a stack. I will weigh this with at home wear and maybe purchase a 14mm height to stack and test weight but end up with a taller weight if I want to train and walk around outside.

I wear my weight for 5 hours per day, total. I go about my day normally and remove it when the time elapses.

There is no routine for wear. Merely the position of your body for the majority of your wear time. I play it like this.

Sitting, there’s little gravity force. So if you primarily sit you may want to invest in something tall enough to offer you significant stretch.

Standing, gravity is at work. So it is not as pivotal to have height because something of weight will offer you Earth’s own downward force to stretch your scrotum. So you have the option to base your choice on a comfortable weight or height.

Laying down, is mostly a gravity thing if your scrotum stretches enough to drape over your thigh or you lay down and have enough butt to keep your scrotum from touching the mattress while wearing the weight. It also has the capacity to work with a stretch height that is super tall if you go with something taller and lighter weight. Which is required if your scrotum stays high and tight or you don’t have enough butt to suspend a weight on your scrotum an inch above the bed.

My personal method is likely going to remain weight related.

**I think flat out spacing my balls further down looks uncomfortable and my experiment with using some of my BRK rings to stretch further using my weight yielded pretty abrupt discomfort. The reason I never got into ball stretching was space tension devices always looked so torturous. So this was no surprise that space and weight was too much.

I would say the four 2” brass rings were maybe 6oz and they are definitely .25” thick so they added 25.4mm of height. So I am sure the 65mm weight is too much for me right now in height and weight.

However, weight based stretching is assuming that the magnetic weight remains my main source of stretching. I have two more heights it is made in to try (which will likely get tried in the coming months) and how I cope with weight versus height will be touched on again.

I spend most of my time walking or laying on my back, using my butt as a fulcrum and my trunk as the longer part of the lever to keep my scrotum suspended and gravity doing the work.

After wearing my weight today I found this: Mild Issue- Swollen Median Septum (uncensored)

During the time I was wearing the weight, most of which I was sitting down, I could feel it pinching in the center of my scrotum. I also got a weird tingle in my glans from time to time that I wasn’t sure from the weight or the friction of my jeans but I’m leaning towards the weight.

The issue was I had the seam of the weight (one of the places the magnetic door affixes) sitting right atop the Median Septum (or so I can best tell by diagrams) and it swelled like in the pictures.

It didn’t take long to go down after removing the weight after the 5 hour wear time and my PE4F session went swimmingly with no sensitivity or loss in EQ over the course of a few hours so…I am not worried but I am making a note for someone who may have this happen while hanging a ball stretcher weight.

Lesson?

Do not ignore tingling, pinching or numbness.

Pictures of the results (temporary of course) here: Ridiculousness- Attempt #1 with Glass Sun Tea Jar (uncensored)

Jar and Method

Glass mason jar.

It’s a thick glass jar. Duly note that the spout and nut in this kit does NOT match up with the female spout converter in the Pumptoys STJ kit. I used the nut from my other spout that I had on hand, as I bought a plastic jar that didn’t work out. You may need to purchase a second jar if you want to make my "Mason" jar work, as the spout nut will not catch on the pumptoys female spout converter.

Steps to assemble are the same as above IN THE FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD only with a glass jar instead of plastic.

Routine Notes

Attempt #2, which panned out, was had with lukewarm water and a jar barely halfway filled up. Pressure, at the green line on my Mityvac handpump (as near as I can tell is 3.5-4HG) was downright uncomfortable. I held this pressure for 3 minutes.

Do not set huge goals for the first session. It’s enough challenge to keep the carpet dry.

Combined with holding the jar to me while I was sitting down so I didn’t make a hellacious mess, was drastically uncomfortable! I spent 3 minutes in the setup before I was uncomfortable enough to admit I wasn’t going to make it 10 minutes, much less 40 minutes.

My new goal is 5 minutes for a few sessions then 10 minutes. Baby steps. Crawl before you walk. Walk before you run.

Words To The Wise

1. A Sun Tea Jar 2/3 full of water is heavy, cumbersome and you will need to thoroughly plan where and how you position yourself for the duration of your session.

2. Water will try to get in your pump. It flooded my hand pump even though I had an air gap. It will get water in the line as soon as you aren’t paying attention. Don’t go electric and don’t be squeamish about taking your hand pump apart to work and wipe water out of it.

3. One trick is to remember the female connector will not let water out until the male connector opens it up so don’t connect your pump until you get situated and ready to pressurize. It will keep you from taking the pump apart and wiping it out so it can dry.

4. Also de-pressurize and remove the pump before setting the jar down when you are done. This prevents back flow into the pump hose at session end.

5. Do not let my negative attitude and annoyance belie the effectiveness here. Sun Tea Jar pumping Full Package Works. It’s the hassle that makes it less doable, not the feel or the showcase of results in both scrotum stretch and temporary larger testicles.

6. Monitor your sensitivity. I think that because I orgasmed in the last hour that sensitivity may be clouding my sensory ability to understand the jar pressures. It definitely was intense at low vacuum but may be less intense if I haven’t orgasmed recently.

There are two kinds of clear plastic Sun Tea Jars. The first is the soft kind. Its walls are thin. When you squeeze it, it will flex. If you drop it, nothing will happen to it because of its flexibility. Like thoughtfulgold said, if you try to pump with one of these, the plastic will bow and fail to pressurize. Those are NOT the kind of jars you want.

The hard kind will not flex at all when you squeeze it. You can knock your fist on it and it will stay rigid. The walls of the hard kind are thicker than the other. If you drop it, it will get cracks in it. I’ve used a hard plastic STJ with the conversion kit from Pumptoys for many years at all sorts of pressures without a problem.

Because you can’t tell which kind of plastic is used in something you order online, check your local retailers and thrift stores, too. Sun Tea Jars appear in stores during the summer. During the other parts of the year, you won’t find them anywhere.

Of late I have started using my ball stretcher weight again. It wears quite comfortably now with no slippage and I think that my balls are slightly bigger because there is no shift while I wear the weight. I still wear my silicone spacer but it feels more snug and secure. I have no numbness or coldness when I take the weight off. Or any swelling.

I will try to get new pictures up soon. I feel that my scrotum hang has changed for the better.

I also will start using the sun tea jar on my off nights as I originally planned. It is just that feeling that heavy ass jar is certainly a daunting and not fun task. Oh well. If I want something I have to be motivated enough to achieve it.

(I have let my phone eat two long posts today and I’m getting frustrated)

Looking at next year’s PE endeavors I want to reinvigorate my efforts in testicular enhancement. After my sun tea jar failures simply let this goal lapse. That has to stop.

The issue was using a converted sun tea jar instead of a specialized device for the purpose. Pumptoys creates specialized full package devices that are far more advanced and comfortable then a cobbled-together and modified jar. I didn’t think that my goals merited the investment that such a jar costs, because they do cost in the $300 range but if I really want to get to where I want to be I will do it.

The fact is a proper device for the purpose would not be cumbersome to the point if I would be a mobile Nor would it constantly drop water on the floor and force me to have to take apart my pump to clean it. I will call for sizing in the morning sometime during the business day and I will make a special effort to purchase one of these cylinders for myself. I already have the stretcher weight that I need and I picked it up today and asked myself why haven’t I been using it. The answer was clear. I had not been using it because without using it in conjunction with full package pumping it would do next to nothing. My frustration with a sun tea jar derailed my zeal but it did not lessen my desire for the goal.

So, I have goals for 2019 here. I want to get a BullMaster Cylinder from Pumptoys. I want to master it’s use and I want my balls to outgrow my current weight so that I need the widest and heaviest magnetic weight they sell. Which is 16oz heavier than this and taller as well.

I do realize that if I grow as fast as my idol on Newart that I’ll be needing truly special accommodation in pants within a year.

I desire this event. A life that contours around my goals and accomplishments is a life I am proud to live. And if it takes me realizing I let a year go because I didn’t realize I needed better equipment for the task and I was afraid to spend more money. I’ve burned thousands. Now doubtlessly close to 15,000 dollars over 9 years. This cylinder and cool sculpting will be another $1000 but…I do not care.

You invest in what you do. You put time, recources and energy into your goals.

I know what I want. And this thread must rise from the dead for me to get it.

I put an ice block (plastic and ice inside) to my fatpad once for around 1 hour and now a month later or so Im convinced I have had results!

…You know, I could easily do that and try to save several hundred dollars.

Well there are some things you need to know. It will hurt at first then go numb that is fine. Then you have to check for the skin going white that is not okay. As long as the skin stays red everything is fine frostbite happens after the skin turns white.

I read up on it. No reason not to try it. I was gonna hit on the lady but…I could use the money instead lol.

Today, on the list of things I wanted to do was get the tallest magnetic ball stretcher weight and start my work with it. So, I’m doing that. I will include pictures and a comparison of the two side by side. My goal is a lower hanging scrotum for now, as my current partner goes wild when my balls smack her when we are doing it. But I also want a greater hang as the use of the BullMaster/Magnum cylinders from Pumptoys need a certain level of scrotum hang to be properly used and I want to be ready for that purchase as well.

Just putting this update here to keep myself accountable and to stay with the goals for the year. It is a LOT of PE I have planned. But I’ll do it.