Masturbation And PE

So I’ve been doing some digging into past history here at Thunder’s Place.

About 10-15 years ago, many big gainers and established forum contributors made the recommendation to refrain from masturbation as much as possible. But advice now seems to be it is okay (without porn, of course).

Can someone enlighten me into both sides of the recommendation? I can sort of see both being reasonable.

Thanks!

WM12

My routine has always included a ton of edging with NO CUMMING. I attribute alot of my gains to that aspect of it - not only getting the gains but retaining them. Semen retention is awesome. It teaches you so much about your body and its responses, helps you experience male multiple orgasms over time, keeps your T levels high and you have an ultra masculine pumped feeling consistently. Take a look at my progress log and pictures. So many men refuse to edge and not cum. I never use porn. It’s destructive on so many levels. I just think about me and my wife and occasionally use a mirror for something different.

I am assuming you are equating sex and masturbation, basically ‘cumming’ being the action under inquiry. My advice is to never forgo sex for PE. My wife and I fuck as often as we can, and seldom does a day go by without sex, often multiple times a day, and I have had nice gains. Could my gains have been greater? I don’t know and really dont care because sex is more important to me/us.

I likewise never orgasm except with my wife. I extend, pump, jelq, and edge, and always make sure I do not ejaculate. It keeps my libido at an all time high, intensifies my desire for my wife, and intensifies my orgasm. If you are single however, you are eventually going to probably need a release.

I’m with 32 on this. Sex is the ultimate passive PE program and I even use a c- ring to hold the pump as long as I can.

Absolutely! Same here!

I’m referring to masturbation (no sex).

As I was referring, many early (10+ years ago) TP big gainers and established forum contributors made the recommendation to refrain from masturbation as much as possible to increase gains. But advice now seems to be it is okay (without porn, of course). For example, edge to PONR 4 times, then if you want, blow your load.

I can sort of see both being reasonable, so I’m looking to understand both POV.

Thanks!

WM12

There is something that is key to what I, and alot of other men do, to get and retain gains. It’s not just masturbation. It’s edging and not cumming for long periods. Not just edge for a few minutes and blow your load every day. Semen retention is key. Feel free to PM if you want.

I used to never cum before my PE routine (just stretches and jelqs). I would always wait several hours until I had either sex or pleasured myself. My biggest, fastest gains came during that period of time in 2003. I just feel like all the hormones, vitamins and minerals in my body would go to work on my cock instead of be blown on a cum load and orgasm. Also, my cock changes shape a whole lot after I cum and I feel like anything intense as far as stimulation goes on my cock after a PE routine is a bit counterproductive to my workout. In recent years sometimes I’ll lightly masturbate and keep a strong erection for like 5 minutes or so as a warm down and then I wash off and that’s it. I do think not cumming before and after a PE routine helps gains.

I’m also hesitate about masturbation. Currently I’m qutting porn (erotica and other alternatives, not so sure, but not touching them either). Masturbation, on the other hand, is still a topic I really can’t decide. I’m also single.

Should you edging or blowing a load?

Should you just use your hand or Fleshlight/Tenga?

Well, since my OP, I have found that edging may be more helpful than ballooning, but there does not seem to be any consensus regarding masturbation. Some of the biggest gainers did masturbate. Sorry I can’t give you a more definitive answer.

During marathon pump sessions I edge between pump intervals. No cumming, just edging. It seems to reinforce the pump and results last longer.

I do mainly workouts for girth. I do warm up, some stretch to get maximum length and then I do clamped bending exercises. I maintain erection with edging. After that I continue clamped edging. This absolutely maximizes my penis’ size. I stay in this state as long as possible, eventually blow. The whole workout and edgjng can last an hour or two.

As I have mentioned before, I edge and don’t blow. Use my hand. I have tried the sleeves but destroy them in no time due to my girth. If anyone knows of one made specifically for fellas with large girth I would like to hear about it.

In terms of enlargement masturbation doesn’t matter if its let’s say no more than 2-3 times per weak (no more). But Watching porn and masturbating too much will decrease your mind sensitivity and you have bad EQ when the actual sex happens