My Thoughts -- A MUST READ FOR VETERANS AND NEWBIES

Above all, I must sincerely say that this is the most bogus and bullshit site that I have honestly EVER laid eyes upon. I joined a few years ago with huge hopes and dreams that have only been shattered more and more over the years. I have tried every fucking technique that has ever been mentioned on this site - my results? Not one fucking millimeter of a gain. Sure my EQ improved but that is probably simply from playing with my dick for hours at a time.

I have a few points I just have to point out.

1. Haha, first and foremost. Honestly, I mean fucking honestly, just think about the lack of photographic evidence for a site that is fucking slam packed full of men claiming one inch gains in length as well as girth. Out of the 80,000 or so members that are here has no one just happened to take before and after pictures other than the very few that are posted and continously referred to on this site? Yea ive seen the guy with the routine with the dick that made the gain to 5. 75 bpel or whatever from the various stretches from the base, so what, where the fuck is the other at LEAST 1000 others?

2. If PE is honestly real, there should not have to be such variation between excercises for every man. Fucking think about it.

3. I have read numerous posts where men are actually getting pissed off because they have to spend time with their girlfriends and it takes time away from their time to PE. HAHA are you fucking kidding me? Why do you have a dick? Just to stretch it out with your hands and never allow a female to touch it? GODDAMN!

4. The fucking creator of the site, Thunderss, doesn’t even fucking PE anymore, doesn’t even fucking do it, and I have read in a previous post that he stated he only made minimal gains at that. Why the fuck is that guy still running this site? OH FOR THE DONATION MONEY?! thats right.

Thats it im fucking done, Ive PEd for many many many fucking hours…. I’ve never made any gains whatsoever. But I have gained one thing, and that is even more insecurity with my size and more and more frustration with this bullshit scam of a size. Newbies, go ahead and quit, and if you want to throw shit in my face, then take fucking pictures and show me even so much as a fucking inch of a gain in either way.

Dont simply press the ruler even farther into the bone to try to say youve gained length. Which is 99 percent of the gains on this entire site.

PURE FUCKIN BULLSHIT

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I am not going to quibble about everything you said — everyone is entitled to their opinions, and it is hard to take your post too seriously.

But as for photographic evidence, and you saying “why there aren’t thousands of before and afters” with so many people registered, can you show me your before and afters?

The highlight of your rant though is the CSI you figured out on Thunder running the site for donation money! I mean, you really figured that one out pretty good. The 99% of other cock yanking sites out there — the ones that cost money and sell snake oil — at least they are up front about what they are doing, huh? Meanwhile, the one free PE site — Thunder’s, that doesn’t sell anything or cost a cent — is the biggest scam of all, right? :up: Brilliant.

Please keep posting, this is good shit.

Not one fucking millimeter of a gain.

Why then is there a gain of 1/4 inch (a bit over 6mm) in BPEL in your PE stats page?

Assuming you’ve actually given PE a fair try, it seems you fall into the “hard gainer” category. A rather small percentage of men either don’t gain anything at all or precious little from PE despite putting forth good, and sometimes extraordinary, effort. One who comes to mind is SS4Jelq, a retired moderator here.

1) I didn’t take before shots because I didn’t have a digital camera back then. Even if I had, I probably wouldn’t have posted my pictures here. Not everyone is comfortable posting dick pics that will likely remain in cyberspace for many years.

Did you think to take “before” pictures? I’ll bet not many do, even if only for a private record.

2) The basics are the same for everyone. The core of a PE program is stretching and jelqing or otherwise engorging the shaft. Apart from likely variations in penis construction and tissue composition, the amount of length that can be gained from lengthening ligs varies. What works during the beginning doesn’t continue indefinitely. To continue gaining, different techniques are required. I gained well initially from a simple manual routine. Later I had to spend significant time hanging at different angles to continue progressing. And, eventually, that even stopped working.

3) Yeah, that’s nuts. PE should be kept in perspective.

4) How many years would you pour your energy into running a free (as in nothing for sale, no ads, no sponsors, no affiliate BS) forum about a subject you don’t presently have any interest in doing yourself? My guess is none. If you don’t want to donate, don’t. No one here is being pressured to. This forum isn’t trying to sell you anything or shoving ads in your face. Thunder and the several dozen moderators here volunteer our time because we feel a truly commercial free venue for exchanging information about PE is worth the effort.

Also:

Please document these changes in the PE Database. ;)

Edit: I see you already have and actually made gains. :confused:

Commanderblop - Your before and afters are a perfect example of pressing harder into the pubic bone!!! Where did that 1 inch mark go? Thanks for the support man!

Krod - You almost got me man! But it all was a simple result of a measurement error, probably much like comanderblops!

hobby - I like youre attitude and you are very right on my situation, it is very hard to not come off offensive, such as I have considering you have honestly PE’d for such a long time, with a very stable routine as well as consistency. I honestly still have a small shatter of hope and I still PE, I simply do not know what direction I should take anymore. The core of my frustration is my girth, 4.25 midshaft. Yes I have read the TGC theory, and no, regular condoms rarely fit properly. It eats at me every SINGLE day.

I’m a noob. I’ve been doing this for three months…but I’m not going to give up hope. I have a new vein in my penis so that is some improvement right? RIGHT? This is coming from a guy with 38 posts so I seriously doubt that you had a routine or that you worked hard at it. All these men on this forum can’t be lying if they were then they are well organized, and have lied a lot. Also if you want something you have to work HARD for it. No one is going to give it to you.

You know, I understand your frustration. If you want to give up I don’t blame you. I have several times over the years. But, I always returned and tried something else. Here is a post I made in a similar thread a while back.

I have found that the rest of my body has withered into a corpse-like state from my failure to eat and exercise due to my hours PEing. This, in turn, makes my penis look bigger. :up:

You too! God, I thought it was just me.

Gainswanted just because you failed you try to kill it for all the newbies who haven’t seen gains yet, How would it be possible to get tens of thousands of men to lie? I have not gained yet but your selfish outburst just makes me more eager to prove critics wrong

I must admit alot of the pictures look suspicious at times though,like people are pressing harder, I am skeptical about that but the thing is, I am so inecure about my size it eats at me too everyday but I’d rather try something than give up! There is only one way to find out.

I mean if this thing is a scam then all these liars have just helped build up peoples hope to destroy them and karma will do its thing! I think you should give it one last try! I don’t think you could quit because you are like me,a part of you still believes so use that part to your advantage. What is your current size by the way?

Measurements can be taken with the ruler turned vertically so the edge has to ride on the high point of the pubic bone. Don’t hunch over to look at the numbers on the side. Stand up straight and use a mirror.

I wish I had tracked that since the beginning. I later found a 1/4” difference between horizontal and vertical ruler orientation. However, the difference remained the same even with further, though minor, gains.

I know all of my length gain isn’t from only shoving the ruler in deeper. A portion may be, but there is no denying I gained length. One of the things I noticed along the way was the position of my hands while holding a stretch noticeably changed. I had to bend over farther when stretching down, and I could “anchor” my thumbs farther away when stretching sideways. I can do an inverted V-stretch over my wrist, which would certainly have been impossible before PE. I can stand up semi-straight while holding a BTC stretch. I wouldn’t have been anywhere close to that before PE.

PE works for many guys. Not all, but most. Some gain more than others. Personally, I went from the left side of the Bell Curve to somewhere near the middle. Of course, I’d like more. However, a huge pecker is not realistically in the cards for me. I accept that.

“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference…” — Reinhold Niebuhr

Hobby how much non bne pressed length did you gain then? Thanks.

GainsWanted do you need a hug?

I think he’s just a troll. Pretty good attempt too. I give it an 8/10.