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New and Clueless

Hi there folks, first post so please bear with me.

I’m 28 years old, and I’m looking at getting into PE. I just became aware of this within the last couple of days and I’m somewhat clueless and have some questions. I’ve read through many of the posts and I feel that I’ve gained quite a bit of knowledge already, now I’m looking to put it all together and start a routine. Please excuse my lack of acronyms and crappy terminology, like I said I’m still in super doofus mode over here.

Where I’m at now: I’m not sure I measured correctly but I’m around 5.3 when erect, 5.5 at my absolute fullest erection. I got this measurement by placing a tape measure right where the shaft starts. I didn’t press in or anything. I’m around 5.1 or 5.2 in circumfrence. I also have a slight curve (hence the name) to the left that bugs me at times. My live in girlfriend seems happy about my size and we are pretty active sexually. I’ve gotten plenty of “it’s perfect for me”, “I love your dick” comments and I am very appreciative of them, but I want to knock her socks off y’know. I want some “holy shit” type comments and I also want to feel better about myself. I don’t want her to be merely happy, I want her to be awed a little. She seems to be content now but I want her to be fulfilled to the max. I also think maybe I could walk around with my head held a little higher if I could get to that next level, if that makes sense.

I’m not looking for any quick fixes, through reading the posts I can tell that this is a process and it takes time. I have no problem with that. I used to work out heavily (can’t really do it anymore due to an accident where I basically shattered my left humerus [upper arm] bone and it’s now full of plates and pins) and I learned that you shouldn’t check the mirror for results everyday. More like once a month or so. I’m a patient guy so I won’t have a problem dedicating myself to this. I would need to use primarily manual techniques. I’m on a pretty strict budget and can’t buy a bunch of gear, I also can’t really walk around naked with weights hanging from my dick. It just wouldn’t work. Lastly, like many I thought PE was impossible but after reading some of the thoughtful posts on this board I’m convinced that some result is attainable. I’m pretty much sold on PE, now I just need to know how to do it right. Here are my questions, please feel free to answer just one or however many you have time for. I know that many of you are advanced with this and taking time to help someone new may not be the funnest thing, but any input is appreciated. If the answer is in another thread, please direct me there. Thanks in advance.

1. Pay sites - I visited a site called penisadvantage.com and it says that you can increase size by 1-4 inches by doing some super secret excercise for six minutes a day over a few weeks. Seems too good to be true but they’re not selling pills or equipment so I wanted to ask if anyone has done this or knows it to be legit. I’m doubtful.

2. Jelqing - I tried this last night by squeezing at the base of the penis and pulling upward to the tip. My penis was dry so my skin pulled right along with it. Do you use lube for this? If so, how do you keep from going fully erect due to stimulation. If I understand correctly you shouldn’t be fully erect when jelqing.

3. Hot wrap - Is this as simple as it sounds? Just get a hot cloth and wrap it around your penis to warm it up before jelqing? Also, what the hell is a rice towel?

4. What’s a PC squeeze?

5. Vitamin E?? - I’ve read that vitamin E can help this process in some way, can help with fuller erections, healthier libido, etc. I even heard Dr. Drew (loveline radio show) say that this can help with a curvature. Any of this true?

6. Curvature - Will this process or any additional process help my curvature? It’s not that bad but it’s a very noticable curve to the left, not up or down at all. BTW, that pay site I mentioned above also says that their process automatically fixes curvatures.

7. Deformation/discoloration - Should I expect any? I am circumcised and I’m not looking to reclaim my foreskin. Is there any extra skin accumulated as a result of all the stretching, pulling, stroking, etc?

Thank you to all who read this and I appreciate any responses.


"...this may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to..."

- Maynard James Keenan

Welcome Aboard

1. Pay sites : Everything you need is here in the Faq at the very top of the page in the cluster of buttons.

Everything else is basically in the faq too. Read, read, reread is the secret.

The Faq is your friend.


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

Great FAQ Thunder. Thanks.


"...this may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to..."

- Maynard James Keenan

I suppose I probably would have. Not a bad idea to include that.

Anyone have any info on the other stuff I mentioned (specifically 5,6, and 7)?

Thanks for the responses so far.


"...this may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to..."

- Maynard James Keenan

You should take bone pressed measurements of your length to better be able to keep track of your progress.

And welcome =)


"You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts."

I’ll answer #7. You’ll probably have some temporary discoloration with some exercises. You’d better hope you get some skin as your penis grows. There’s no way you will get your foreskin back since it’s gone. You won’t get so much skin that it will look like one either.

slightcure. the jelq you describe is a dry jelq. A wet jelq is when you put lube on, and milk it not unlike what a vagina would do to your dick, with non skin moving up and down the shaft.

Also, it’s “rice sock” which is basically a sock filled up with rice, and tie a knot or sometthing along the top. Then microwave it. Much better than a hot towel because it stays hotter longer.

For discoloration, use the hot wrap/rice sock before and after your workout to help prevent discoloration.

Welcome to the board, slightcurve. :)

7. Is there any extra skin accumulated as a result of all the stretching, pulling, stroking, etc?

You can expect some skin stretching, but not enough for foreskin restoration. Additional reading that might interest you:

Accidental Foreskin Restoration?
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More Turkey Neck

Welcome slightcurve.

I must say, this is a great first post. The only question you had that I didn’t see answered was number 4. Although you may have found the answer already through the forum search, here it is just in case.

4.) A PC squeeze is a contraction of the pubococcygeus muscle. The easiest way to isolate this muscle is to take a piss and stop the flow of urine. The muscle you are using to do that is the PC muscle.

As far as controlling an erection during jelqing, you just have to keep the exact amount of stimulation to tell your brain to send blood to your penis, but enough disassociation or self-control to not get a full-blown erection. If you have trouble with this, you can always masturbate before you do your jelqing.

Also, I noticed in your signature that you are a Tool fan. Rock on! :)


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This is me in case you ever want to know what kind of psycho you're dealing with.

I’ve got a newbie question too. How come hanging is so popular here when every “natural exercise site” says it has negative effects?

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