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Originally Posted by Chonky
Heat is the most important thing. Use it for stretching, pumping, everything. Imo the main weakness of the extender is that you can’t use heat the whole time you use it. That might be why a lot of people use heated hanging/stretching as their main exercise and use an extender as an ancillary just to keep the penis elongated for as long as possible. It’s called the “high tension, low tension” approach I think.

Lack of heat is probably why you weren’t gaining (edit: in those first six months. Idk if you added heat later, but if you didn’t you should.).

Just started to now, appreciate the advice

Originally Posted by 5.5Squared
I did not review your entire thread. But on the surface I’d ask about your last decon and recommend adding heat.

The FIRe approach was built around the concept of heating while extending. I went with hanging straight down as it fit my life better.
Find scienceguys thread for the specific heating pad. Pretty sure he is in the UK.

I’ll check it out thanks for the reply

Originally Posted by 9937
Woody,

I’ve been where you are and eventually found a method that worked for me. Sizegenetics was actually my first device. I ended up trying that along with a variety of other ADS devices, pumps, hangers, etc. Never really got noticeable and consistent results. However, here’s something you may find encouraging - after falling away from PE for a couple years and coming back to it I actually ended up finding the extender to be the most consistently effective device for length gain. Here’s what I always aim to do in every session: KEEP MY PENIS EXTENDED TO A LENGTH AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT BEYOND MY ERECT LENGTH. I use non bone pressed erect length for this (NBPEL). I literally put the extender on and almost always use a measuring tape to check the length. To be more specific, I’m usually able to strap in at my NBPEL. I wear it for say 20-30 minutes to let my dick relax into the stretch and then I rotate the tension bar to extend it past that length. I’m typically able to stretch a quarter inch past my NBPEL. As the hours pass and my dick stretches a bit, I can get my dick close to half an inch past my NBPEL. So let’s say you’re starting at NBPEL of 5.5 inches (or whatever it is). Start the session extended to 5.5 inches, 20 minutes later increase tension to get to 5.75 inches. Try to wear it as many hours as you can at that length. HERE’S THE CHALLENGE - it’s a balancing act between strapping your dick in tight enough so that you can extend it beyond your NPBEL, but not so tight that it severely restricts blood flow. In order to strap in snug, I got rid of the strap the sizegenentics came with and actually use an Ace bandage (long cloth-like material about 1.5 inches wide). Other people have used a velcro strap as well. I literally wrap it around 2 times and tie it in a bow. Honestly, my glans gets a bit cold, but it doesn’t go numb. I haven’t noticed any negative affects even with years of use. I’ve gained about 1.5 inches NBPEL. You always have to be careful to not restrict blood flow, but I think slightly restricting blood flow is unavoidable in order to get enough tension to gain length. If you feel your glans going numb (happens sometimes), take the extender off ASAP, warm it up, put it back on. Another tip which may require a significant lifestyle change, but if it’s doable, get a remote job. It’s becoming more and more doable post-pandemic and it makes PE tremendously easier. Personally, I’ve found 5 days on (nearly 12 hours a day after being conditioned), 2 days off has allowed for consistent gains. I try to add some sort of additional bar to the extender every 30 - 60 days or so. Once you find something that actually works, don’t get over excited and change the routine. Stick with what’s working until you don’t see any progress for say 60 days then consider modifying the routine.

Thats awesome, thanks for the detailed reply,
I use the noose as opposed to the strap as I found I slipped out of the strap too much but yeah after about 2 hours it does to go a bit purple and numb.

Unfortunately I only have a couple of hours a day I can do it now as I’ve changed jobs, it’s a shame because the 6 months I was using it, I had a lot more time.

I’ll still do it with the time I have anyway but am toying with the idea of getting an all day extender.

Again great advice, thank you

Time is a key point to get good results, but You should also be aware that amount of tension plays a major role in tunica lengthening, for some it’s harder.

I would switch to less time and more tension. I used to use the extender of 10 hours a day, but that was very time-consuming. Now I use it for an hour with the most tension I can handle.

Still, even trying more tension, heat and other alternatives, You might still see no gains at all. Yet P.E works, it provides limited gains, length is limited by the urethra, and girth is limited by the nerves around the tunica, If your physiology doesn’t allow more growth, You won’t see any gains.

Originally Posted by Ostahph
Time is a key point to get good results, but You should also be aware that amount of tension plays a major role in tunica lengthening, for some it’s harder.

I would switch to less time and more tension. I used to use the extender of 10 hours a day, but that was very time-consuming. Now I use it for an hour with the most tension I can handle.

Still, even trying more tension, heat and other alternatives, You might still see no gains at all. Yet P.E works, it provides limited gains, length is limited by the urethra, and girth is limited by the nerves around the tunica, If your physiology doesn’t allow more growth, You won’t see any gains.

OK, I understand, slightly disheartening to hear but it is what is I guess.
Will just keep trying and see if something works for me

Originally Posted by Ostahph
Time is a key point to get good results, but You should also be aware that amount of tension plays a major role in tunica lengthening, for some it’s harder.

I would switch to less time and more tension. I used to use the extender of 10 hours a day, but that was very time-consuming. Now I use it for an hour with the most tension I can handle.

Still, even trying more tension, heat and other alternatives, You might still see no gains at all. Yet P.E works, it provides limited gains, length is limited by the urethra, and girth is limited by the nerves around the tunica, If your physiology doesn’t allow more growth, You won’t see any gains.

How long would you give it with the newbie routine? I’m on week 7 or 8 now, with no changes

Originally Posted by woody7126
Hey everyone,

Been using size genetics for just over 6 months now, anywhere between 3-7 hours per day, 6 days a week but not seen any results as yet.

Although I’ve gone from using the smallest bar, to now using the longest plus the smallest, which is a real stretch, I haven’t grown so much as a millimetre.

I’m starting to get out of the habit of using it now because I’ve literally made no gains.

Am I being too impatient?
Has anyone else had this?
Or have any ideas?

Many thanks

Maybe that device simply doesn’t work for you, stop right now.

I made two inches in a year only doing simple stretches and piss pulls, along with occasional v stretches.

Do piss pulls on rest days also.

If you keep trying the same thing over and over expecting different result, you are a fool

Right now, on 20.8 cm length and 14.3 mid girth, still doing for more 😄😄

Originally Posted by jocacar
Do piss pulls on rest days also.

What are “piss pulls”? What was your routine?


Originally Posted by woody7126
How long would you give it with the newbie routine? I’m on week 7 or 8 now, with no changes

I didn’t even try this routine, to be honest I do not believe it can yield good results as some claim.
An extender needs to be used for many months, many hours a day, to see the least results, why would light stretches and jelqing be more efficient ?

Given the long time You’ve been trying to get your first results, my last attempt would be pumping for a few months + extender(less time more tension), If still no results are achieved, I would back off.

Originally Posted by Ostahph
I didn’t even try this routine, to be honest I do not believe it can yield good results as some claim.
An extender needs to be used for many months, many hours a day, to see the least results, why would light stretches and jelqing be more efficient ?

Given the long time You’ve been trying to get your first results, my last attempt would be pumping for a few months + extender(less time more tension), If still no results are achieved, I would back off.

Thanks for that.

So this week have back away from the jelquing and just been using the extender again.

I measured the length I’ve been using it at and its 6”, my BPEL is 5.5, so I definitely have it set more than long enough.
I did try your method of the elasticated bandage but I can’t quite get it to work for me. The noose seems to work better for me, obviously I have to have it pretty tight but I can usually last a couple of hours at a time.

Heat seemed to be a big thing that a lot of people are recommending so I bought an infra red light, however I am now a little bit worried about pointing it down there, so haven’t used it yet. Trying to find out how safe it is

a different approach

After reading your thread the one thing that was mentioned is that clearly you are frustrated, and honestly rightfully so. I have a suggestion for you and it may be hard to wrap your head around. Yes double pun totally intended. While you are doing this, are you paying attention to your PI’s while in these exercise states? What I mean is are you bracing yourself for being under tension? The natural response that the body has, especially when it comes to a man’s junk, is to brace. You may not even notice that you’re doing it. Walking around normally you won’t be bracing, but as soon as you start any PE the bodies response is to engage the cremaster muscles. This can be noticed by even a slight lift of your balls(if you can manually do this, some cannot). It can also engage the BC and PC muscles which is basically your pee/poop muscles and muscles responsible for ejaculation. Try to manually engage these muscles once you are in your exercise mode, hold for a second or two and then perform the opposite movement, or at least contract then perform a release while exhaling. Try this at least 10 times to get yourself into a relaxed state. Also try to perform more of these if you find yourself changing positions constantly or feeling yourself becoming distracted from your PE tasks. See if this helps. This was a break through for me and I actually find eliminates the need for decon breaks. Whether it is more or less effective than decon breaks I can never turn back the clock to test that theory, but seems to work for this guy anyway. Good luck to ya.


Started (Jun 05 2011): 19.05 cm / 7.5" BPEL (7" NBPEL) X 13.65 cm / 5.375" MEG (Dec 07 2016): 20 cm / 7.9" BPEL (7.75" NBPEL) X 15.24 cm / 6.0" MEG

Current (Apr 21 2022): 24.13 cm / 9.5" BPEL (8.5" NBPEL) X 16.03 cm / 6.375" MEG

GOAL: The famed 9" NBPEL X 6" Almost there

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Originally Posted by Yonkman
After reading your thread the one thing that was mentioned is that clearly you are frustrated, and honestly rightfully so. I have a suggestion for you and it may be hard to wrap your head around. Yes double pun totally intended. While you are doing this, are you paying attention to your PI’s while in these exercise states? What I mean is are you bracing yourself for being under tension? The natural response that the body has, especially when it comes to a man’s junk, is to brace. You may not even notice that you’re doing it. Walking around normally you won’t be bracing, but as soon as you start any PE the bodies response is to engage the cremaster muscles. This can be noticed by even a slight lift of your balls(if you can manually do this, some cannot). It can also engage the BC and PC muscles which is basically your pee/poop muscles and muscles responsible for ejaculation. Try to manually engage these muscles once you are in your exercise mode, hold for a second or two and then perform the opposite movement, or at least contract then perform a release while exhaling. Try this at least 10 times to get yourself into a relaxed state. Also try to perform more of these if you find yourself changing positions constantly or feeling yourself becoming distracted from your PE tasks. See if this helps. This was a break through for me and I actually find eliminates the need for decon breaks. Whether it is more or less effective than decon breaks I can never turn back the clock to test that theory, but seems to work for this guy anyway. Good luck to ya.

I’ll definitely test this out, thank you

Originally Posted by ThalisSp
I’m the type of guy that acts before thinking.. However I’m now get into learning and then act.

Here’s link for the best approach for your situation.

Fast Results - Google Sheets

Loads to go off here, thank you so much

Originally Posted by fdersby8
What are “piss pulls”? What was your routine?

My routine was 15+(could go on for 30 sometimes) minutes of stretches in all directions holding in each direction for 30 seconds.

After that 15+ minutes of jelqing and some occasional ulis (holding the base and kegeling blood into penis)

Only this for 6 months, got about 2 cm in this time, however gains where getting slower and slower and that is when I interduced piss pulls.

In addition to the described routine, whenever I went to piss I would grab the flaccid penis behind the glans and do about thirty or so quick and light pulls(not too much strength but still challenging myself a little) 1 or two seconds I would hold it in an extended state and then release for a sec or two.

With this added, there would hardly be any week when I wouldn’t gain at least 1 mm, sometimes more.

I would do these on rest days also, to prevent turtling, just a little habit, I mean you are already holding it and looking at it, just stretch it then.

Length gains where coming too fast as compared to girth so that is when I added clamping and shortened time spent on length.

I did not exactly use a cable clamp, but a bra tightener which was super comfy, needed no wrap.

I would always do 10 minutes sets with kegels ofc and squeezing after I got used to the pressure.

I would always clamp after the routine I described at the start as it seems logical to me that under such extraordinary pressure you would get to have your penis as long as you did with your stretches and as girthy as with best of jelqs you did during those 15 or more minutes of jelqing.

Lost interest when I got to 20.5 cm and 14 cm girth and I was “maintaining” by doing one or two sessions a week, and only with that over six months I got 3 mm in both girth and lenght.

I would suggest you try manual exercises with piss pulls habit and I simply see no way you wouldn’t gain.

I got 2 cm as I said in six months and was frustrated with the slow down, your unsuccessful story would just infuriate me.

You tried, extender is not working for you….

Those guys saying keep doing the same, never give up bull are not your friends, even if intentions are good

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