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That’s great advice, I will do that thank you

Not sure about extenders. But yh 15 minutes of stretching per day made a massive difference to me.

Most overlooked factors by us (begineers)
-light manual work out
-rest. Proper periodisation. Keepin an eye of PI
-heat

Update - been doing the beginners routine for about 7 weeks now but still no change.

Have now added the size genetics device back in, directly after the routine whilst I’m in that larger state, only for an hour or so as that’s all I have time for.

Any thoughts/advice on what I’m now doing?

Thank you

It’s clear that you are a hard gainer.Which just means you need more patience.
You have to understand that right now you’re mentally getting frustrated, and that’s where the quitting mind starts up.
What you have to understand is that your commitment and dedication for such a long time without gain is remarkable.
I should warn you that currently I advise you to change your mindset. Do PE just for the sake of it, make it a lifestyle. That’s all you can do at this point, because it seeks tou are doing everything right.
It’s like a diet. 8f you measure your waist every day and you’re not losing weight you will get frustrated. But if you just eat healthy and go to bed starving every night you WILL see results.
Same for PE in due time.
Conti ue the Newbie Routine and wear the extender and if you wish get a pump too.

Regards, and keep the faith!

Well there are other options than extending you know. I personally don’t like the use of extenders and ADS, but if that works for you why not. I used to do a lot of pumping and I mean black-bloated-cock, pubic-bone-about-to-break-from-the-pressure, and oppressed-balls-making-my-stomach-ache type of pumping. I don’t know whether I gained from it or it was mostly natural but I went from 13-13.5cm BPEL (around 5.3”) to 15-15.5cm BPEL (around 6.1”) and then just like you my gains came to a halt. I tried breaking out of it by keeping at it like nothing happened, I tried changing up my routine by adding manual exercises. And then I tried hanging… and did that get the job done. I gained another inch in about 6-7 months and I was sitting at 18cm (7.1”) BPEL. My point is that your body may be asking for more variety in your routine.

Yeah I agree, I will persevere..

I guess the thing is, you’re always happy to continue trying without results but you just don’t want to continue to do something which potentially isn’t going to work.

I know there’s no way of knowing what will and won’t work for you and I’m all for working at it and being patient but how long do you give it, until you say ok this isn’t working for me?

I will get a pump and add this into the mix at some point also.

Appreciate your advice

Awesome, thanks for the advice.

I will get a pump and start that.

Which hanger did you use?

Well, I didn’t use any actually. I have my own cheaper system.

Sounds interesting.
I will give it a go though none the less

Have you been using Heat ? The key is to use heat, and stretch a heated penis as it is cooling down.

No, how does this work?

So I use a rice sock or something for a few minutes and then put it straight in the extender?

Heat is the most important thing. Use it for stretching, pumping, everything. Imo the main weakness of the extender is that you can’t use heat the whole time you use it. That might be why a lot of people use heated hanging/stretching as their main exercise and use an extender as an ancillary just to keep the penis elongated for as long as possible. It’s called the “high tension, low tension” approach I think.

Lack of heat is probably why you weren’t gaining (edit: in those first six months. Idk if you added heat later, but if you didn’t you should.).

I did not review your entire thread. But on the surface I’d ask about your last decon and recommend adding heat.

The FIRe approach was built around the concept of heating while extending. I went with hanging straight down as it fit my life better.
Find scienceguys thread for the specific heating pad. Pretty sure he is in the UK.

Woody,

I’ve been where you are and eventually found a method that worked for me. Sizegenetics was actually my first device. I ended up trying that along with a variety of other ADS devices, pumps, hangers, etc. Never really got noticeable and consistent results. However, here’s something you may find encouraging - after falling away from PE for a couple years and coming back to it I actually ended up finding the extender to be the most consistently effective device for length gain. Here’s what I always aim to do in every session: KEEP MY PENIS EXTENDED TO A LENGTH AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT BEYOND MY ERECT LENGTH. I use non bone pressed erect length for this (NBPEL). I literally put the extender on and almost always use a measuring tape to check the length. To be more specific, I’m usually able to strap in at my NBPEL. I wear it for say 20-30 minutes to let my dick relax into the stretch and then I rotate the tension bar to extend it past that length. I’m typically able to stretch a quarter inch past my NBPEL. As the hours pass and my dick stretches a bit, I can get my dick close to half an inch past my NBPEL. So let’s say you’re starting at NBPEL of 5.5 inches (or whatever it is). Start the session extended to 5.5 inches, 20 minutes later increase tension to get to 5.75 inches. Try to wear it as many hours as you can at that length. HERE’S THE CHALLENGE - it’s a balancing act between strapping your dick in tight enough so that you can extend it beyond your NPBEL, but not so tight that it severely restricts blood flow. In order to strap in snug, I got rid of the strap the sizegenentics came with and actually use an Ace bandage (long cloth-like material about 1.5 inches wide). Other people have used a velcro strap as well. I literally wrap it around 2 times and tie it in a bow. Honestly, my glans gets a bit cold, but it doesn’t go numb. I haven’t noticed any negative affects even with years of use. I’ve gained about 1.5 inches NBPEL. You always have to be careful to not restrict blood flow, but I think slightly restricting blood flow is unavoidable in order to get enough tension to gain length. If you feel your glans going numb (happens sometimes), take the extender off ASAP, warm it up, put it back on. Another tip which may require a significant lifestyle change, but if it’s doable, get a remote job. It’s becoming more and more doable post-pandemic and it makes PE tremendously easier. Personally, I’ve found 5 days on (nearly 12 hours a day after being conditioned), 2 days off has allowed for consistent gains. I try to add some sort of additional bar to the extender every 30 - 60 days or so. Once you find something that actually works, don’t get over excited and change the routine. Stick with what’s working until you don’t see any progress for say 60 days then consider modifying the routine.

Does your unit turtle every after session?