Hanging with FIRe
I started lurking around November 2020. Planning in Dev 2020.
Began hanging in Jan 2021.
Where I started:
Longstretchs thread was the thread that I read and re-read several times as I was beginning. Read it.
The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth
Now go back and read it again.
1.) Deconditioning Breaks
Simply put, these are more important than you think. I see comments on TP when guys are beginning decons bemoaning the loss of ‘future’ gains during the decon. That is the wrong idea. We are placing stress on tissue and tissue needs a break from time to time. I take a few weeks off after 4-5 weeks of active hanging. A decon is not “doing nothing”. It is an active rest cycle.
2.) BPSFL Focused
Fairly straightforward and easy to measure. No erection required. It’s the pre BPFSL that matters. If you are doing this correctly you should see it increase ~2mm per week. Small changes over 30 days add up. Measure the same way everyday. Both before (Pre) and after (Post) your PE workout.
Track strain using the following equation: (Post - Pre)/Pre. I have made good gains with strain ~1.5% and good gains with strain ~2.5%. A higher strain does not mean faster growth. Tissue responds slowly.
3.) Stress-Strain Curve or how much weight do I use?
The recommendation in the past has been to run a n=1 experiment to get your stress strain curve. Fancy way of finding the correct weight range for you to use. Kyrpa has simplified this to a load calculator that can be downloaded from the link below.
Entering my flaccid girth (97mm) into the load calculator yields the following results
.1 MPa - 2.9lbs/3.4lbs
.17 MPa - 4.9lbs/5.8lbs
What do these numbers and weights tell us?
A rough guide is to begin applying heat around .1 MPa and continue increasing the weight until we reach approximately .17 MPa.
I was hanging with 54oz (3.3lbs). My results were spectacular for that cycle.
I begin applying heat around 36oz (2.25lbs)
Adding weight while the temp ramps up to my max heat weight of 84oz (5.25 lbs).
4.) Thermedic FIR Heating Pad
Nearly every post by a veteran to a newbie on Thundersplace is ‘Add heat’. Knowing this, it still took me 3 months before I added heat. I just did not consider active heat compatible with hanging until I saw a mod/veteran post a pic of a narrow orange heating pad wrapped around his unit while extending. Suddenly I understood how hanging with a heating pad would work. I picked at random, mostly because of its size the Thermedic FIR heating pad. Odds are this was the most important contribution to my results. Available on Amazon.
I’d recommend the large 4x7 pad if your BPFSL is close to 8”. Otherwise stay with the smaller 3x6 pad.
Post #1 in Kyrpa’s thread on therapeutic heat thread provides the best summary of the usefulness of heat in achieving our goals. Read the entire thread.
Using the ultrasound for therapeutic heat in PE
Therapeutic temperatures range between 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C).
Here is my favorite quote on heat: “Above 104F (40 C) occurs thermal transition of the microstructure of the collagen, significantly enhancing the viscous stress-relaxation of collagenous tissue and allowing greater plastic deformation during stretch. (Mason and Rigby 1964, Rigby et al 1959)”
The Thermedic pads have 3 settings, 42C,45C,48C. I run mine on high. Some only use the medium setting.
Manko007 posted his test results using a Thermedic heating pad. Here: manko007 - Gaining volume with Kyrpa
min Temp (F)
The important part is that a mean temp of 101+ F is achievable with the heating pad in about 15 minutes. We have a heating pad capable of getting us into the fabled therapeutic heat range.
Step #4 above heats your penis to allow some viscous uncoupling of the collagen molecules. The cooldown allows the molecules to reset in their new stretched location. The basic rule is to increase your weight by 20%-25% for the cool down. In practice this means add your final weight and then turn-off/remove the heating pad. The idea is to cool down in the stretched position.
Retired: NO PMs; BPEL: 5.5" --> 7.9" ; BPFSL: ~5.6" --> 8.5"
"Going hard, fast and heavy is all against the scientific knowledge of tissue expansion or elongation." - Kyrpa
Last edited by 32quarters : 04-23-2022 at .