The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth

This thread was originally posted at MOS and I think it deserves it place here as well. So keep in mind this was originally intended for the MOS audience which is generally of the more is more approach and never ever take rest days.

“I’ll preface this with not everything mentioned here will be applicable to newbies and many things I’ll discuss will go beyond this thread. However some of the things will be applicable to newbies and veterans alike. Personal research, thought and application will be warranted.

This thread will start and evolve. I will first seek to lay out some principles that I have found to provide sustained growth. I will then in as layman’s terms as I can attempt, provide some of the science behind the principles. Continuous growth until end goal is reached is ultimately all our goals but many stall after making initial gains and keep sputtering along with little to no progress. The response to this stall, especially on this forum in particular, is well wrong.

I fully expect for many here to dismiss some if not all these principles. Especially those set in their ways. Revolutions aren’t accomplished in a day. I also expect with enough interest and time the majority will come around, especially when results… well results speak for themselves.

I don’t claim to have all the answers. Many things discussed here you can see evolving in my own progress report, especially with my comeback this year. However I am gaining consistently and my hope is to bring those results for other souls. Currently I am gaining 0.1 cm per week during my campaign, which is as fast as I could probably hope for being that I’ve done PE for 15 years.

Again this will be a evolving thread as there is too much to discuss in one post. Much that will be discussed I have recently talked about in my log and in other threads.

Principles
1.) Decondition Breaks: I put this at top of the list for a reason. The other forums have accepted decon breaks as a tool but this site in particular seems to resist them. Not surprisingly, to me at least, there are more and more cases of gains stalling here. My first post after this one will go in on decon breaks and offer suggestions. Straight up everyone should have scheduled decon breaks in their routine if they want to have sustained growth.

2.) Using BPSFL as a guide for their routine. BPSFL can be a guide on BPEL gains. You can also use them to determine the effectiveness of your routine. On this principle I will discuss heavy on accurate measurements, basics of the stress-strain curve and how that relates to connective tissue and the penis as a whole and even how you can use these measurements as a guide for when you need a decon break.

3.) Therapeutic heat: ideal heat should be 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C). 45°C and up causes tissue death, below this and the connective tissue will not behave like we want it to in the stretch . I don’t mean warm up either. I don’t warm up. This heat is a tool only to be used under a tensile load. A natural cool down (no ice) is advised after heat and this as well will be under tension.

These principles can be used to adjust any routine. I am now making great gains using “light” loads and the majority of my routine is right at an hour. More to come stick around and learn with Longerstretch.”

1.) Deconditioning Breaks

What comes after a period of intense exercise? How do we grow in the gym? It’s an analogy but not a perfect one. The gym damages and stresses muscle fibers and its not until we rest that the body rebuilds itself. Now too intense training will lead to poor performance and then overtraining hence the dawn of daily undulating periodization and other modalities to keep pushing the boundaries.

Now if we cause our penis to toughen up that means we can no longer stretch it the same length with the same weight or will need longer time under tension. A penis can grow so tough it can resist over 100 lbs and not break, nor give gains. Now the toughening process cannot be avoided but many PE practitioners unknowingly do things to hasten this process.

Now at some point I might list the studies of rat tail tendons being stretched and rabbit’s mcl tendons being stretched in vivo (performed in a living organism) and stretching of hamstrings, etc and how these items relate to stretching the penis, however, it might be beyond this thread and to keep my thoughts simplified I will post the following link on soft tissue healing.

Soft Tissue Repair

Decon breaks are something I always resisted till the past couple years. Experience and more importantly results have made me a believer. If you haven’t taken a break in the past few months you more than likely need one. At some point your PE endeavors are going to cause trauma and at some point your penis is going to need repair and perform any necessary remodeling without leading to toughening or fibrotic changes. Fibroblast will start releasing fibrin when we stress our penis’. Over time it gets better and better at resisting what we are throwing at it and these fibrin strands can become quite thick (microscopically), stiff, and able to pull a train without elongation. So yes to make continuous and easier gains decon breaks are much needed. How much time is dependent on different factors but it had been engrained in my mind they need to be built into a routine. Decon allows those thick strands to be trimmed away and if frequent enough prevents them from getting so thick in the first place, i.e. less resistance to the forces we subject our penis to i.e. easier sustained growth.

And as mentioned here

What a decon break does is allow the body to heal. It’ll lay down a patchwork of fibroblasts and extracellular matrix and if done regularly as part of your routine, I believe allow proliferation of the tissue, i.e growth! Without a decon the toughening process continues and the fibrils produced by existing fibroblasts converge and continue to resist the change. Our body loves its homeostasis.

There is evidence that if stretching is ballistic in nature or reaches a certain stress level the body tries to mainly strengthen penis to further resist stress. This is why stretches don’t need to be too aggressive or for hangers don’t hang for weight hang for gains.

For now the very basic concept is this. A decondition break works as reset for the body. Those thickened fibrils get trimmed some. Proliferation ideally occurs so there are more cells where you want them for when you come back. And main take away is when you come back you can make quicker gains at a much reduced workload than when you stopped.

What does this mean. Well instead of spinning your wheels, upping workloads and time of your routine ad infinitum… you can just stop for a period of time and when you come back make cheap and easy gains!!! Get those cheap and easy gains, when they start to diminish or downright stall (proposed between 12 days and 60 days) take a decon and come back for more cheap and easy gains.

What?!!! You’re telling me to grow I sometimes have to stop. You’re damn right that’s what I’m saying.

My History with Decons

You long timers think back on your career. I’ll tell you about mine. I stalled after the 1st 12 months and gaining 0.5 inch. Practiced manual PE RELIGIOUSLY FOR 2 FUCKING YEARS with 0 gains. What’s the definition of insanity again? I took 3 months off and started vacuum hanging and gained 1 inch in 6 months with light weights though a big time investment. Still didn’t have a clue. Started and stopped so many times I lost count. 1 thing is clear I made my best and quickest gains after a decon. I just reached inch #3 after taking 18 to 20 months off though unplanned I’m making great progress. DLD before coming up with SRT took 2 months off. If you go looking you’ll find this truth with many many others.

Are there some that can keep making great gains just upping intensity and time, you bet. Arnold was already a beast at 16 years old before steroid use. Genetics can only go so far. This concept will work for everyone because it’s backed by science and how the body works.

Practical Recommendations

Now how to make this practical. As noted in link I posted it can take up to a year for connective tissue to fully heal. 3 months to be mostly healed. However we’re not likely reaching that kind of injury. The length of decon is proportional to intensity of routine, length of time PEing with no break and time stalled. You up those variable expect to up the decon break.

So if you’ve been stalled for 6 months let’s say, or you’ve never taken a decon or you’re hanging over 20 lbs, or you don’t think you can increase your time investment and are going balls to the walls each routine but not seeing results; take at least 3 months off.

When you come back to it keep those cheap and easy gains in mind. Just enough force to elicit a response, without unneeded toughening. Cheap and easy. Take accurate measurements preferably in cm. After a month or 2 from now on take at least a ninth off. If everyone did this we would have more data on what the best length of a decon could be, but these recommendations are the basics and work.

ADS Use

Now some will still ADS while on decon and I suggest to experiment. ADS is light load not looking to cause further elongation. ADS could be counterproductive because you are keeping those fibrils aligned against the strain. If you don’t potentially the patchwork made during decon will be disorganized and when coming back from decon it will resist less and these can then be recruited for further elongation. I and others have weaned off ADS with results though so experiment. A wean might look like the first week you ADS 8 hours/day. 2nd week 4 hours/day. 3rd week 1 hour a day and last week nothing. My next decon I will not use any ADS whatsoever.

Remember you want your gains to be the opposite of your lovers: Cheap and Easy

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2.) BPSFL Focused Routine: Part A, Accurate and Consistent Measurements
The importance of personal accurate measurements cannot be overstated. These are not to impress lovers or strangers over the internet. These are for you, though if you share them in your log it could provide data to future PErs on what might work for them. BPEL gains should still be tracked as well as girth measurements but BPSFL can be taken at any time without erection. A gain in BPSFL usually precedes a gain in BPEL. Also as I’ll discuss later on about the stress-strain curve of connective tissue, BPSFL can be used to track how effective your current daily routine is in terms of possible length gains. Using these tracking methods we can also track any diminishing results and either make adjustments to routine or take a decon break.

What it’ll tell me when to take a decon? I believe so and has been a factor in my recent routines and others!!!

Hip angle and perspective can effect the measurement the user sees. I personally stand with neutral hips and head in same position. In seated position I can get bigger measurements just by varying hip angle, this also causes wide fluctuations. The important thing is consistency without “cheating”. You want to measure the same way each time, again leave ego at the door and think like a scientist. This is your lab and your result have huge implications.

Another thing I’d recommend, thinking like a scientist, is to measure in cm or mm. Every inch is 2.54 cm. That means when you measure in cm you can more accurately read each notch in the ruler. Once you get used to it, it’s really easy to convert back to freedom units, just divide the number by 2.54. No more pesky fractions haha.

As I’ll discuss in Part B, I recommend everyone to start measuring pre and post routine. As seen in my own thread I’ll many times measure between different exercises to better gauge what exactly I’m getting out of each exercise…. with the understanding that the first exercise, hang set or few stretches will be uncrimping the tangled up connective tissue fibrils. That means that first set will likely be what gives you the biggest TEMPORARY gain in BPSFL as you pull your penile tissue out of the toe region and into the knee region of the stress- strain curve. Point being if everyone starts measuring these points they’ll be able to predict if they need to do more, they are doing enough or even if they could have done way less and got the same results!!!

You’re measurements and the accurate interpretation of them will be key. Your penis will tell you exactly what it needs to grow! Keep in mind even pushing thre boundaries the rate of growth is naturally limited but with enough time your goals can be achieved.

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This one is the sticker content.

BPSFL Focused Routine: Part B, Stress-Strain Curve
The Stress-strain curve is the relationship between stress and strain of a material. It is unique for a given material and is found by recording the amount of strain (deformation) at distinct intervals with a variety of stresses (loadings or weights).

There has been no direct studies on the stress-strain curve on the penis as whole but there has been on tissues similar to what’s found in the penis, connective tissue such as tendons and ligaments. Keep in mind there are other forms of connective tissue and other tissues( in the penis and in different layers, stacked upon each other and each layer can both act separately and with the other layers. It’ll be a good idea to thoroughly review the anatomy of the penis if needed.

This is a yoga instructor’s blog and she describes stretching of collagen fibers and connective tissues simple enough for lay people. Keep in mind the healing link I posted earlier in decon section.

Viscoelasticity

Creep and Recovery

Tissue Mechanics: Connective Tissue

Also the stress strain curve is a physics thing. I have never taken any physics classes. I’m posting some videos that have helped me understand the very basics.

An amateur resource directed at biomechanics of tendons and ligaments.

And basic orthopedic doctor showing what happens to collagen fibrils during stress strain curve.

One that might help tie it all together and is a bonus.

Load-Strain Behavior
Here is a study on the stress-strain curve of a rat tail tendon. Some things can be inferred by this study especially the uncrimping of the fibrils during initial loading that represents the toe region. This is why the first hanging set as BIB mentioned can be felt as a warm up set as these fibrils straighten out and start to resist the load in unison.

In a typical load-strain, stress-relaxation experiment a curve is obtained of the
type shown diagrammatically in Fig. 5. The tendon is stretched at a predetermined
rate to the desired strain, thus producing the load-strain curve
shown at the left. The tendon is then maintained at this particular strain and
measurements of the load are continued, resulting in the stress-relaxation
curve shown at the right.

Fig. 6 shows a characteristic sequence of tendon load-strain curves. All
these were made with the same tendon. In each case the tendon was extended
at the same constant rate but to different extensions. After each extension
the tendon was unloaded and rested in a slack condition whereupon its
original length was fully recovered, except as noted below. This recovery
process in all cases took no longer than 10 minutes. The sequence begins with
curve A which represents a strain of only 2.5 per cent. After a rest the tendon
was stretched again, and, as shown in curve B, the behavior exactly follows
that of curve A. If the strain does not exceed approximately 4 per cent, this
load-strain behavior is reproducible through an indefinite number of cycles.
The Mechanical Properties of Rat Tail Tendon
BERNARD J. RIGBY, NISHIO HIRAI, JOHN D. SPIKES,
and HENRY EYRING
Rat Tail Tendon

I know there is a lot to digest here. Stress relaxation is where the amount of stress is reduced over a given time because the penis and its tissue relaxes and causes some degree of plastic strain. This is primarily how extenders work. I have accomplished the same with the silistretcher . The stress needs to be held constant over time and then you’ll feel it be less intense as stress relaxation comes into play. It has been found it typically is fully occurred after 300 seconds or 5 min.

Your workouts will benefit from having a toned down first couple minutes as you pull through the toe region and move through the stress-strain curve. Anytime stress is added it needs to be done slowly so that the body will relax in this stretch .

So calculating strain is pretty easy. It’s post measurement divided by pre measurement minus 1 and multiplied by 100

[(Post-BPSFL÷pre-BPSFL)-1]×100

For instance pre measurement was 21.8 cm and post was 22.4 cm.
[(22.4÷21.8)-1]×100
[1.0275-1]×100
[0.0275]×100
2.75% Strain for that day.

I think that’s enough for now I’ll move on to heat, not warmup, but therapeutic heat. From there I’ll tie it all together and then keep posting new insights here. I’ll be out of town most of next week so bare with me. More to come stick around and learn with Longerstretch

BPSFL Focused Routine: Part C, Conclusion and Thoughts
So measuring this strain rate becomes increasingly important to see just how much deformation aka strain we are achieving. Based on mine and others experiences 2-5% is the daily goal. We are operating mainly in the elastic region and so most of this post measurement will go back to pre given enough time, usually by next day. Microscopically it’s thought that some cells will be stretched, some fibril linkages broken and the response will be fibroblast mediated proliferation. This means if we hit these numbers consistently growth will occur, with little to no inflammation.

This will tell us how effective our current routine is and help us predict how much we can gain before decon. Newbies can usually achieve a higher strain rate (~5%) and us veterans will need to aim for 2.25-3.00%. You can even measure between different exercises and see what each set or group of exercises is doing for your strain rate. If an exercise is giving at least 0.1 cm after a period of time, say 10 min, it’s safe to say it’s effective. You can see if you should’ve stopped long ago or if you need to up the intensity. And the more people in this community start tracking this the more accurate we will become. And you can see by the curve, after the toe region it’ll take increasingly more weight to achieve only a little more strain, and at some point risking injury. The response to increased weight to a certain point isn’t ever increasing strain but toughening of tissue, limiting any cheap and easy gains to be had.

We can also look at the cumulative effect in our current cycle between decons. Me and others have noted gains slow between 14 and 60 days. If we are gaining we can account for a usual cumulative effect of 5-8% strain if calculated from day 1 to the last day of current gain cycle. When you approach these numbers in any cycle you’ll know to start wrapping it up and looking to start your decon. Also it appears that outside newbie gains, gains can only happen so fast. Me and others have noticed this is approximately 0.1 cm per 5 to 14 days.
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So while our penis maybe only give us a 2-5% stain rate it’s very likely that the tight and or weak links in the penis are giving more at the cellular level. This has been thought to be the work of fibroblast mediated proliferation, remember proliferation=gains. Little to no inflammation is needed.

Intrinsic fibroblast-mediated remodeling of damaged collagenous matrices in vivo
Paolo P. Provenzanoa, b, , , Adriana L. Alejandro-Osoriob, c, Wilmot B. Valhmub, Kristina T. Jensena, b and Ray Vanderby, Jr.a, b
Department of Biomedical Engineering, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI, United States bDepartment of Orthopedics and Rehabilitation, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI, United States cDepartment of Biomolecular Chemistry, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI, United States

Abstract
Numerous studies have examined wound healing and tissue repair after a complete tissue rupture and reported provisional matrix and scar tissue formation in the injury gap. The initial phases of the repair are largely mediated by the coagulation response and a principally extrinsic inflammatory response followed by type III collagen deposition to form scar tissue that may be later remodeled.In this study, we examine subfailure (Grade II sprain) damage to collagenous matrices in which no gross tissue gap is present and a localized concentration of provisional matrix or scar tissue does not form. .This results in extracellular matrix remodeling that relies heavily upon type I collagen, and associated proteoglycans, and less heavily on type III scar tissue collagen. For instance, following subfailure tissue damage, collagen I and III expression was suppressed after 1 day, but by day 7 expression of both genes was significantly increased over controls, with collagen I expression significantly larger than type III expression. Concurrent with increased collagen expression were significantly increased expression of the collagen fibrillogenesis supporting proteoglycans fibromodulin, lumican, decorin, the large aggregating proteoglycan versican, and proteases cathepsin K and L. Interestingly, this remodeling process appears intrinsic with little or no inflammation response as damaged tissues show no changes in macrophage or neutrophils levels following injury and expression of the inflammatory markers, tumor necrosis factor-α and tartrate-resistant acid phosphatase were unchanged. Hence, since inflammation plays a large role in wound healing by inducing cell migration and proliferation, and controlling extracellular matrix scar formation, its absence leaves fibroblasts to principally direct tissue remodeling. Therefore, following a Grade II subfailure injury to the collagen matrix, we conclude that tissue remodeling is fibroblast-mediated and occurs without scar tissue formation, but instead with type I collagen fibrillogenesis to repair the tissue. As such, this system provides unique insight into acute tissue damage and offers a potentially powerful model to examine fibroblast behavior.

Matrix Biology, Volume 23, issue 8, January 2005, pag. 543-555

Also the statement “following subfailure tissue damage, collagen I and III expression was suppressed after 1 day, but by day 7 expression of both genes was significantly increased over controls, with collagen I expression significantly larger than type III expression. Concurrent with increased collagen expression were significantly increased expression of the collagen fibrillogenesis” also serves to illustrate why recovery time is needed between PE sessions.
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3.) Therapeutic Heat: Part A, Basics
Before we dive in head first I will suggest if you haven’t read all the links, studies and videos posted so far that you do so. It’s imperative you have a basic understanding of what connective tissues is made of, how it’s repaired and remodeled, it’s viscoelastic properties and have a general understanding of the stress-strain curve. I’m going to start weaving this shit together.

The first study I have is probably the most important in terms of understanding why heat matters. Written by hand surgeons and sums up pretty nicely things so I don’t have to. It’s labeled here as “hardy1998” at the end of this post. Please thoroughly digest this now. Please note some things won’t apply when trying to elongate a penis, though many things do.

Did you read it? All of it? Let me quote some good parts now.

A great overview of the basic anatomy of connective tissues.

Here it’s discussed why when we stretch or apply a load to the penis we want to do it slowly. This will further help us with our elongation goal. Also to mimic nature a lower load seems to be more beneficial to growth.

25% increase in elongation when heat and stretch are applied together! That’s huge. It’s also discussed why applying ice will be counter to our goals. You’d really only want to use ice if you over did things. Heat breaks the bonds in the collagen leading to more elongation, provides a protective response meaning the penis will be less damaged from same weight and will elicit a more pronounced collagen response (proliferation aka gains). Its my understanding that you’d really only want to use heat during stretch for best results and can in effect skip a warmup, especially if using ultrasound heat and able to enter the therapeutic range. Use of ultrasound heat has been shown to be ideal… currently.

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3.) Therapeutic Heat: Part B, Heating with Ultrasound
Therapeutic range is 39.8-43°C (103.6 to 109.4°F). After 45°C you risk cellular death and below isn’t going to get you the effect your after. A member at another site (manko007) did some experiments by placing a thermometer in his urethra and measuring common heat applications. US was able to get to those ranges quicker, maintain best and be the most comfortable.

Therapeutic ultrasound has been used for decades for physical therapy. It’s using sound waves to heat up tissues deeper into muscle bellies and tendons. There are precautions like you have to keep the transducer moving because it can heat up bone and cause pain, don’t go over spine or other major nerve pathways and no organs other than penis (heart, lung, liver, testicles, prostate, etc). It usually is found in 2 frequencies 1 mHz and 3 mHz.

1 mHz can heat deeper than 2.5-5.0 cm and 3 mHz can heat 0-2.5 cm. Theoretically 3 mHz is ideal but in practical terms both would work just fine. Both heat deep and won’t cause skin burn with other methods of heat. If I apply it to my dorsal side I’ll mainly feel the heat in the center and on other side of penis.

1 mHz option. Delta 1 mHz.
Delta 1 mHz

The 3 mHz option, also the one I currently have. Delta 3 mHz
Delta 3 mHz

The Science of Ultrasound Dosing
I personally keep my settings on 1.6-2.0 w/ cm^2 for 10 to 20 min. I’ve found that to be a safe range and still provide sufficient heating in 5 to 10 min.

Ultrasound now known to me to be the best thing for therapeutic heat around. It can be dangerous if abused so research and common sense need to be used. Far infrared heat lamps, heating pads (especially moist version), or other methods could be used as well with great effects. I just know that ultrasound will reach the therapeutic level quickly and consistently and has little risk if used properly. That means not too long, not to intense and only under a tensile load.

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3.) Therapeutic Heat: Part C, Thermal Decay
Rate of Temperature Decay in Human Muscle Following 3 MHz Ultrasound: The Stretching Window Revealed

Down at the bottom of the link above you can download the study to read yourself. The penis being an appendage I’d imagine has an even quicker thermal decay than muscle.

You’ve now applied you’re therapeutic heat WHILE BEING UNDER A TENSILE LOAD. You’ve pushed further up the stress-strain curve and have signaled to some cells it’s time to proliferate. But hold on while those fibers have just begun to orient along the axial plane you’ve put stress and thr heat has "thinned" the viscous nature of connective tissue in the penis it’s time to cool it, naturally. The ECM will gradually become more viscous. As mentioned in Part A on heat, ice baths or additional cooling methods are unnecessary and counterproductive. Within 10 minutes the penis will be back to body temperature or even below.

During this 10 minutes it’ll help our efforts to continue to stretch as it cools. This could mean 10-60 min in extender , another hanging set or like I do cyclical manual stretches (more on cyclical stretches and further gains on stress-strain curve later.

My goal is to add only slightly more stress and disrupt full creep recovery.

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Alright here are the experiments by manko007.

Here is another experiment performed by same guy. Monumental work!

Chart of the comparison of 1 mHz and 3 mHz ultrasound.
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The thermal decay.
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The play by play of the experiment
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Kyrpa has done similar experiments.

he previous 2 posts were from a guy that was brave enough to place a sterile thermometer up his urethra while he compared different forms of heat and recorded the heat up and cool down between the ultrasound and far infrared heat. This was both very brave and monumental to my understanding of heat and what would be the ideal form of heat. I’m done for now. I’ll welcome discussion. Read the studies and links posted, reflect and draw your own conclusions. I’ll post more info, next will probably be cyclical stretches (manual work or even cyclical hanging sets).

My current routine is a mirror copy of Kypra at another forum with my own spin. After reading similar threads and drawing similar conclusions our routines were similar, though he started this line of thinking before me. We both continued to tweak it and I noticed I started getting better results when I left my cyclical stretches in and followed more in line with his reasoning and was able to drop my workload and time commitment with the same results if not better, because again using BPSFL as a roadmap. Now my routine is right at an hour, takes about an hour and 20 min to fully complete. I do 1-2 on with 1-2 off depending on schedule. My ideal would be 2-3 on and 1 day off. I’m a nurse so schedule is crazy. These numbers don’t have to be set in stone.

Current Routine
30 min extender using stress relaxation every 5 min, increasing tension slightly every 5 min
20 min hanging with heat, I do fulcrum hanging with ultrasound heat
10 min cyclical stretches (15 second build up into stretch , 15 second max tension, 15 seconds rest)

Other routines will work as well but try to start incorporating these principles. Take a look at my log starting on page 50 for recent breakthroughs. (This is my MOS log, though I’ve been updating my log here with recent updates starting in June of 2019)

Kyrpa has been on this line of thinking longer than me. In fact he’s really one of the inspirations and trail blazers with it. I refined my routine in reading about his results. He’s gone from 7.09 x 5.18 to 8.74 x 5.88 in less than a year and has helped a hard gainer like me gain again. In his log at another forum he set out to use the IPR theory set out by xeno and actually his protocol disproves that we must cause inflammation. He’s kept strict measurements and analyzes them thoroughly complete with graphs and charts. Here’s his synopsis of what he’s learned this first year. This is excellent for anyone looking to apply what is learned here. He has already done all the leg work.

Many thanks to Kyrpa, Manko007, Marinera and Xenolith for their contribution to the evolution of these techniques. Some excellent threads that started it all are here:

Loading, lengthening, healing.

Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Gaining volume with Kyrpa

Manko007’s road to big dick land