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Understood, thank you for clarifying that.

Do you limit the tension on the fish scale to your max working weight when hanging? For example, if you are working up to 10 pounds over the course of the hanging session, do you use 10 pounds of force on the fish scale when measuring post-BPFSL?

Originally Posted by scienceguy
When I measure with the fishing scale I still have the vac chamber on my dick. I put the end of the fishing scale that would get held by a hand around the door handle. The end of the scale that the fish hangs on I hook on the vac chamber. Then I walk backwards until I reach the force I want on the scale and then I measure my BPFSL.

I go above my max work out weight when measuring. I started using 3kg when measuring but changed this to 4kg as my max weight is near 3kg. Might test measuring with a weight less than my max work out weight see how that affects the strain.

I went from 17,8 cm to 19,5 cm BPFSL in 45 Days with Longerstretchs Routine, that was back in May.

I was on a Break for 7 months, on December first I was at 18,5 cm, so I cemented 0,7 cm and am currently in my second Cycle, my Goal for this Cycle is 60 Days.

Before, I tried Longerstretchs Routine, I wasn’t gaining any Length.

Start 2011: BPEL- 5.62 | BPFSL- 5.62 | MSEG- 4.33

Progress: BPEL- 7,28 | BPFSL- 7.87 | MSEG- 4,92

Goal: BPEL- 9 | BPFSL- 9 | MSEG- 6.3

Originally Posted by LongDongg
I went from 17,8 cm to 19,5 cm BPFSL in 45 Days with Longerstretchs Routine, that was back in May.

I was on a Break for 7 months, on December first I was at 18,5 cm, so I cemented 0,7 cm and am currently in my second Cycle, my Goal for this Cycle is 60 Days.

Before, I tried Longerstretchs Routine, I wasn’t gaining any Length.


That’s a really impressive gain! Congratulations

My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG 04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG 08/01/19 BPEL 8.03 x 5.6 10/01/19 BPEL 8.19 x 5.6

I wonder if longerstretch has come up with a routine for girth that incorporates some of this. At the moment girth work seems to be people throwing a bunch of stuff on the wall and seeing what sticks.

+1 that long breaks are good, this is one of the best threads on taking breaks and at times very long breaks. I can plan this around the holidays or summer breaks better. My last longest break was 11 years. I did the newbie routine and back at it with good gains. I hope to log better my breaks this time around and growth and cementing growth gains. I will also see if an 80/20 would work for the following, Jelq 80% month-on and ULI’s 20% and reverse it to see any benefits. I think my dick would like a break after strong girth gains.

Stop setting goals, set objectives without limitations.

5.5 NBPEL Start~~ 5.7 NBPEL- 2011 ~~ 5.75 NBPEL/ 4.25 EG 2012 (Stop 11 years- Started again 4/2023 same stats as 2012)

6.2 NBPEL / 6.7 BPEL / 4.5 EG (5 EG w/ C-Ring) / Grower 4 FL - 12/2023 ~~ (Objective 6.75 NBPEL / 7.25 BPEL / 5.5 EG & Solid EQ)

Originally Posted by 5.5Squared
Not sure how often LS stops in. FWIW I was about to make sure that you have already read the first few pages of his thread. This is the thread that got me started on my approach.

Cumulative strain for a cycle uses the starting/first pre BPSFL measurement and the current BPFSL. Over the course of a feww weeks you end up with a cumulative strain > 5%. The guys who came before noticed that gains slowed stopped completely in the 5%-8% range. I start my decon somewhere over 7% regardless of my ‘calendar’ plan/goal.

Formula: (Current post-starting pre)/starting pre


I’ve also noticed a similar pattern in my experience. During the initial 3 weeks, I managed to gain slightly more than half an inch in length. However, my gains significantly slowed down in the 4th week. After some calculations, I found that my cumulative strain reached 9.67%.

I’m quite hesitant to stop hanging because I fear I might miss out on potential gains, or that I’ll return without any progress. This marks my first experience with a deconditioning break. If anyone is interested, I’ve recently started a progress log.

Currently, I’m incorporating a combination of Longerstretch, 5.5squared, and kyrpas’ methods, along with twice-daily applications of DMSO and a few other topicals.

Originally Posted by longerstretch
ADS Use

Now some will still ADS while on decon and I suggest to experiment. ADS is light load not looking to cause further elongation. ADS could be counterproductive because you are keeping those fibrils aligned against the strain. If you don’t potentially the patchwork made during decon will be disorganized and when coming back from decon it will resist less and these can then be recruited for further elongation. I and others have weaned off ADS with results though so experiment. A wean might look like the first week you ADS 8 hours/day. 2nd week 4 hours/day. 3rd week 1 hour a day and last week nothing. My next decon I will not use any ADS whatsoever.

Hi Longerstretch, have you observed any variations in results between doing a decon break with or without an ADS? I noticed you mentioned that your next decon won’t involve using an ADS.

I’m currently on the first day of my decon and was curious if incorporating an ADS would contribute to any gains or advantages.

I recall someone, possibly you or Kyrpa, mentioning the possibility of combining this method with girth gains or developing a girth routine. If you’ve explored this avenue, could you share your results and any insights you’ve gained from it?

NYB, how long have you used DMSO?
what have you noticed since applying DMSO?

What else have you used with DMSO?

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